Listening in on conversations amongst Men’s Rights Activists is often like taking a brief journey into an alternate universe, where cats are dogs and water is dry and men are the most oppressed creatures on planet earth.
Over in the Men’s Rights subreddit the other day, some of the regulars seem to have just discovered a famous feminist quotation, a paraphrase of something Margaret Atwood once wrote:
Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.
A number of the Men’s Rights Redditors were indignant that anyone could possibly suggest that women have more to fear from men than the other way around. And so, collectively, they came up with a rebuttal of sorts.
OneBigCosmicHorror began by suggesting that the real fear men have of women is much more primal:
Ah, but isn’t being laughed at basically the same as castration?
Indigoanasazi explained:
Oh, you silly ladies with your fears of being killed by men. We men face an even greater peril — the ever-present threat of laugh-castration!
@GrumpyOldMan – Also TW:
Mutilation of the genitalia is incredibly common when a woman is murdered, rape with a foreign object included. This again isn’t the same as the occasional Bobbit case.
The anxiety over neutering dogs is so weird to me. They even make prosthetic testicles so your dog can look like he wasn’t neutered!
Eh, I mean, enough men have used their penis as a weapon that it wouldn’t be completely ridiculous, in some fevered revenge nightmare scenario where women are punishing men en masse for being male. Or maybe they think we share their belief that the penis is the seat of their manhood.
If someone reaches 40 and is still willing to hold their breath until they die if they don’t get their pony then, well…
(shrugs)
@Michelle C Young – Hello! Congratulations on your new kitten overlord and sorry to hear about your sister. Hopefully things are ok. The other day someone was talking about how we suspend our disbelief when watching films etc and I brought up something you’d said on here once, that you had taken pain medication and went to the theatre and proceed to shout at the baddie that he was lying. I laughed when I first read it and I was laughing again when I was talking about it. Then everyone was laughing. So…I guess thank you for sharing. That probably made no sense.
@freemage
I have a confession to make. Years ago, I had a very vivid dream in which I was a super heroine, and in order to save the world, I had to get some information from a male prisoner. In front of him, I took a banana, some ice cream and a blender, and made myself a banana milkshake, which I sucked happily, as he watched, sneering at me that I could never make him talk. Then, I forced a funnel into his mouth, brandished a knife, and asked my assistants to pull down his pants.
He talked immediately, at that point, and my assistant took it all down, while I finished my banana milkshake.
I had forgotten about that dream until reminded about it just now, but apparently, I had tapped into the commonest male nightmares. Wow.
So, any psychologists out there want to tell me what this says about me? I’m sure the MRAs would say I’m definitely a monster who wants to castrate them and worse, and the fact that I relished the milkshake means that I would relish their suffering, and something about a slut on a cock-carousel/vampire/gold-digger/cupcake. Me, I just think I want to be an effective super heroine and save the world. Or maybe I just really like banana milkshakes.
Truly, though, just the thought of the threat of the act seems to be worse, in these men’s minds, than the actual murder of women?
And now, I want to go out for a milkshake. For reals. Later!
@Michelle C Young:
You’re back! Yay! I was wondering where you went. Sorry to hear about your sister. Hope things are better now!
Also, not to be that guy, but…
Pics or it didn’t happen.
No, but seriously, kitty pics? Pwetty pwease?
Isn’t there some sort of Manboobz bylaw that if you currently have a kitten in your home you must post pictures of said kitten?
Or maybe…paid caternity leave?
If it came down to losing my balls or my right arm — I need my right arm, it earns me money! And I’ve already reproduced. As for quality of life, I don’t think I need balls for a boner. And no, I’m not going to Google to find out.
I quoted those figures to some MRA troll, can’t remember if it was here or on Reddit, and he assured me the numbers are false. More women kill their male intimate partners than the other way around, but the FBI can’t catch them because they use untraceable poisons so their deaths aren’t treated as homicides. Also, apparently most women murderers aren’t ever charged because of the “pussy pass.”
He was totally serious.
So castration means removal of balls? I always have it in my head that its the peen as well the way people carry on (not that ball removal would be a fun occasion). Past puberty ball removal would what? Lower testosterone? I dunno. The projection onto dogs is mildly hilarious. My bestie’s bro has a staffy that he’s always refused to have neutered, trouble is, its his elderly parents who have to walk him so they’re the ones that deal his his carrying on. (the dog, not the brother).
If the poisons are untraceable then how do we know what happened? I like trying to get these guys to elaborate on their theories, they get flustered.
Obviously, cassandrakitty, we KNOW what happened because women are vicious, man-killing harpies. Once you start from that conclusion and work your way backward, the FBI’s numbers are clearly false. I believe his untraceable poisons is the most sensible explanation for the huge numbers of women murderers who remain uncaught and uncounted.
One of his citations was Lifetime movies. Apparently those feature a lot of lady murderers, as does Law & Order and its spinoffs.
Does this sound at all familiar? I can’t remember if it was here.
Lifetime is pretty much the same thing as The Discovery Channel, right? It’s where you can observe murderous females in their natural environment (the nail salon).
The absence of any evidence is itself evidence! Brilliant.
What are the poisoner women getting out of it?
Other documentaries include Sex and the City, and the entire Real Housewives franchise.
Actually, I would love to hear episodes of those narrated by David Attenborough.
@cassandrakitty:
I remember reading on this very site about some manosphere jackass (yeah, yeah, redundant, I know) who said evidence and peer reviews and all that shit is for women, which is why the academic world is an unreliable cesspool of corrupt feminist propaganda. Real men sit by themselves, ponder on the state of the universe, and arrive at the correct solution through the sheer power of ManlogicTM. I’m paraphrasing, of course. I can’t remember who wrote it and where it was referenced.
Who needs evidence and support for their theories, when you have ManlogicTM*? Makes things so much easier!
*Here, we just call them Assfax.
I have to wonder, if a man is that convinced that all women secretly want to kill men as vengeance…what exactly has he done to women in the past? Sure sounds as if he feels like he’s done something to piss us off.
@daintydougal, Some do it for money, some for the pure joy of murdering. Remember when some women on the view laughed about a man being castrated? Women love violence.
^ The View ^
Ah yes, because Freud is a person that everyone takes seriously. He also said that castration anxiety is what causes homosexuality, because “dicks”.
daintydougal: “Castration”, technically, refers solely to the removal of the balls. In fact, it usually means removal of the balls and nothing else–the shaft of the penis is left intact. Remember, the procedure is either used on animals to keep them from breeding–you don’t need to deal with the potential surgical complications of removing the shaft in order to achieve that, so why bother? I’m not sure Lorena Bobbit even castrated her hubby under this definition–I’m pretty sure she took only the shaft.
However, common usage covers removal of pretty much either the balls, the shaft, or both.
Yuummmmmmmm. Banana and chocolate ice cream milk shake! Mmmmmmmm…
I feel much happier now.
Ah ok, fanks freemage. How many poisons are undetectable? And obviously I understand about the pussypass(?) but why else would the police etc turn a blind eye to murder? I suppose it’s just one of those unanswerable questions.