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Pickup guru Roosh V: Unmarried women who don't live with their parents are sluts

Evil slut in her den of depravity
Evil slut in her den of depravity

I‘ve been trying to avoid reading, much less writing about, the human stain and pickup guru who calls himself Roosh V. But I couldn’t keep myself away from his most recent post, an appalling little exercise called The Most Reliable Way To Tell If A Girl Is A Slut,which turns out to be even more appalling than its title.

Roosh, you see, has figured out a simple one-question test to determine the sluttiness of any woman. Let’s let him explain:

Many girls go to great lengths to hide their slutty past, knowing deep down the low value it conveys for being a suitable long-term partner, but there is one easy indicator that should tell you beyond a reasonable doubt whether she is a slut or not.

Has she lived on her own?

I believe my response to this is best illustrated by the following video of Don Draper saying “what?”

Let me just add:

HAS SHE LIVED ON HER OWN?

Are you exclusively dating high school girls?

If she’s an adult, or at least an adult somewhere in the vicinity of your own age, OF COURSE SHE’S LIVED ON HER OWN.

Yes, yes, I know, given this economy it’s true that some young people – mostly young men – are living at home a little longer these days than in the past, but the overwhelming majority have moved out by their mid-twenties. You’re 35 years old, dude.

Roosh continues:

If she has lived away from her parents for more than a year, she has—at the minimum—slept with many men whose last names she did not know, including one-night stands that did not involve condoms.

Dude, do you even know the first names of the women you sleep with? And haven’t you bragged endlessly about how you “raw dog it” with women? Weren’t you “raw dogging it” even when you were afraid you had AIDS? (Those are rhetorical questions; I already know that the answers are yes, and yes.)

An “independent” girl, removed from the constraints of a nuclear family home and its rules, curfew, and the concern of good parents, will allow the slutty dick gobbler within her to be released.

Women engaging in consensual sex that they enjoy … with someone else? THE END OF THE WORLD. Raping women who are too drunk to consent? According to Roosh himself, it’s “what I do.”

In other words, a natural-born slut who lives on her own will have far more sexual partners than if she lives with parents of average skill who require their daughter to be home by midnight.

Amazing deduction, Sherlock. And if she’s a nun, she’ll probably be having even less sex. The question is: why are you, as 35 year old man, regularly pursuing women young enough to live with their parents?

Give a man leeway in living life and he does great things, but give a woman this same freedom and she fully embraces the whore lifestyle, unable to stop from getting her fill of cock.

Really? Here are some young men who have recently started living on their own; I’m not sure that what they are doing could really be described as a “great thing.” (Content Warning: Drunk dudes hitting each other in the head with boards.)

If you want to estimate a girl’s notch count, simply multiple the number of years she has lived on her own by the number 3. If she has lived on campus in college for four years and then moved to a large city for two more, you can rest assured she’s had over 15 cocks in her vagina, and god knows how many more in her mouth.

Not that anyone’s worth is determined by how many penises they’ve had in their vagina, or anywhere else, but I feel I should note that these figures, clearly pulled from the  Journal of Roosh’s Own Ass, are completely wrong.

According to people who’ve actually studied human sexuality, his number is just a teensy bit high. And by “teensy” I mean they’re off by an order of magnitude. According to one 2005 study, women in their 30s and early 40s report that they’ve had only 4 male sexual partners, on average, not the 36 to 78 that Roosh’s formula would predict for women who move out on their own at the age of 18 to go to college.

There are definite exceptions for girls who are relationship minded and had boyfriends of more than one year in length, but unless she mentions this, you’re interacting with a slut and should proceed accordingly by escorting her home and asking if you can use her bathroom. Then you must fornicate with her like so many other men.

Yeah, that’s really … creepy. You lie to get into her home, then proceed as if, as a slut, she’s already consented to sex?

You may be thinking the following: “Many Western girls live alone, at least 50%. Does that mean that over 50% of American girls are sluts?” That’s exactly what it means. Independence in women drives them to disempowering sexual behaviors that oppose motherly or wife behaviors. You must be skeptical of girls who have lived alone if you want a serious relationship.

At least if you want a relationship with a creepy, judgmental asshole who thinks like Roosh.

[T]here is absolutely no need for a girl to be independent by living alone without a husband unless you want her holes to be used as a real-life enactment of 50 Shades Of Grey by many strange men.

Well, that is, if you assume that 1) all women can magically find men, whether their father or a husband, who will pay all their bills and  2) Roosh’s opinions about any given woman’s sexual life matter more than the opinions of the woman herself.

If you end up having a daughter of your own, I highly recommend you limit her financial independence before she finds a husband. Refrain from giving her Think & Grow Rich advice that would be better suited for your son. Otherwise, she’ll become a slut who gives it up to any man who dances a good clown jig.

So: prepare your daughter to be dependent for her very existence on dudes who think like Roosh.

That may be the worst parenting advice I’ve ever heard. Then again, it’s from Roosh.

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Gaebolga
Gaebolga
10 years ago

Babushkas and Chinese grandmothers.

A family friend was sitting on a bus going through Chinatown once when the guy standing in front of her whipped out his willie and started waving it at her. She yelled at him and pushed him backwards, where he fell on top of a group of little old Chinese women coming home with their shopping. According to our friend, they immediately stopped their animated conversation and for one long moment there was dead silence, until they all grabbed bunches of bok choy and started wailing on this guy until he staggered out the back door of the bus, willie still waving, followed by loud shrieks and flying produce.

…she tells the story better.

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: Gaebolga

Aw man, whatever their nationality, I need more Babushkas in my life. That’s a great story!

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

I believe having sex with women isn’t the ultimate point for them, it’s enhancing their status among other men.
So, having sex with an easily-obtainable woman is no big deal, the elevated status and bragging rights come from getting a hard-to-get girl.

Having fun themselves, or pleasing the woman involved isn’t the goal. The goal is to bolster the guy’s status among guys, and to prove his masculinity.
The woman is just a means to an end.
Once the goal has been achieved she’s fulfilled her usefulness to the PUA entirely.

GrumpyOldMan
10 years ago

@coffee That’s the kind of comeback I’ve always thought of about 5 minutes too late.

I haven’t heard it so much lately, but back when I was young it was a common male reaction to both lesbians and feminists that all they needed was a good fucking by the right man (i.e., the “person” making the comment). I always wondered, given that sort of attitude on the part of men, why there weren’t a LOT more lesbians than there actually are.

GrumpyOldMan
10 years ago

“I believe having sex with women isn’t the ultimate point for them, it’s enhancing their status among other men.”

I believe that’s the way it is for many or most teenage guys, and most of these PUA-type guys don’t seem to have made it out of adolescence. If you think of it, if your objective is to have a lot of sex, you’ll probably be better off with one woman. The notch-count, and the unsatisfiable need to increase it, speaks of a psychological not sexual motivation and one that would appear to indicate a deficient sense of manhood that has to be constantly propped up.

mdmh
mdmh
10 years ago

Re: LBT Thanks. I now understand while still not “getting it.”

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: mdmh

Probably just as well. I’d hate to live in such a miserable head as that.

cloudiah
10 years ago

Hope the babies return to maximum health & energy levels ASAP, Falconer!

This response to the woman winning the Field Medal just absolutely mystifies me:

http://np.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2ddgzl/woman_wins_highest_prize_in_mathematics/cjojswo

I mean, I really think it broke my brain.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Nope nope nope, I have decided to make my life a Reddit-free zone.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Here is a moment of cute for anyone who did visit Reddit who now needs brain bleach – baby panda triplets!

http://37.media.tumblr.com/705f8d1011748170fbf221d4972b45d3/tumblr_na7g8u0wSj1qhwyqqo1_500.jpg

Lee
Lee
10 years ago

Somehow, I don’t think it’s as simple as that, TeRP. 😛 Women in poorer countries don’t seek education because they’re trying to spite you personally, they’re doing it to improve their own lives—it may even literally be a matter of life and death in the poorest places.

dratman
10 years ago
Reply to  Nonplussed Cat

I love that poem, and have been known to recite it from memory at unexpected times, but … PUA? John Donne?

GrumpyOldMan
10 years ago

The comments on the Field Prize going to a woman reminded me of the story of Emmy Noether, one of the great 20th century mathematicians.

“Perhaps the best view of gender discrimination possible that captures the times, is the following. In the spring of 1915, Noether was invited to return to the University of Göttingen by David Hilbert and Felix Klein. Their effort to recruit her, however, was blocked by the philologists and historians among the philosophical faculty: women, they insisted, should not become privatdozent. One faculty member protested: “What will our soldiers think when they return to the university and find that they are required to learn at the feet of a woman?”

David Hilbert responded with indignation, stating, “I do not see that the sex of the candidate is an argument against her admission as privatdozent. After all, we are a university, not a bath house.”

Orion
Orion
10 years ago

Coffee,

I can’t believe I never thought of that comeback! It seems so obvious in retrospect, but most great ideas do.

Thanks for sharing.

kittehserf MOD
kittehserf MOD
10 years ago

@samantha, ow! Those dermoid cysts sound painful.

Of course it wouldn’t be enough to have teeth. One would need serious muscle power.

It all comes down to the simple fact, that the penis is the seat of the soul. Not having a penis creates a soul vacuum in women*, sorry, females. Thus, they are driven to obtain Liquid Gold ** to fill the void, not knowing that it further devalues their empty flesh suits.
It’s tragic, really.
* Trans people all count as women by default, because even those who do have penises have voided their status as soul havers by denouncing the power of MANLINESS
**May contain traces of semen

@littlekatze, LOL!

@Janinmi, hi, have a Welcome Package!

Can we be honest for a moment? We all realize that this thing about needing to be sure that the women he sleeps with have no previous sexual experience is blatant, pathetic, utterly obvious sexual insecurity, right? If he actually thought that he was a decent lay he wouldn’t be so terrified by the prospect of the women he fucks having something to compare him to.

(Ego-crushing feminist bitch at your service, folks. Try the cat videos, I’ll be here all week.)

I’ll go one further: he talks about how awful these slutty women are, presumably thinking how indiscriminate they are in choosing sexual partners. Anything with a penis will do, apparently. What does that say about him? He’s as good as admitting no “decent” (gah) woman would touch him.

@hellkell

That’s why I go to COCKSCO!

::dies::

@dratman, this is a mockery blog. You don’t want to see misogynists being mocked, don’t read it.

@Dani Alexis, hi, good to see you again! ::waves::

J.J
J.J
10 years ago

…this is a sad strange man. I mean, good sex is an awesome thing, and this guy seems to only want notches with women who don’t enjoy it. Then again he’s a rapist who has unprotected sex with women who he somehow manages to get to sleep with him. Gross

Also, what is with this idea that women who like men are cock hungry? I don’t know any women who are like OMG NOM NOM PENIS! I don’t even find looking at penis all that appealing! (No, random internet stranger/guy on train, I don’t want to look at your penis and it’s not special, mmmkay?)

Where are all these sexually inexperienced women supposed to be hanging out waiting for guys like this asshat to show up? Are there virgin bars in Siberia or something?

I’ll go one further: he talks about how awful these slutty women are, presumably thinking how indiscriminate they are in choosing sexual partners. Anything with a penis will do, apparently. What does that say about him? He’s as good as admitting no “decent” (gah) woman would touch him.

I really doubt this guy has ever had fully consensual sex with a woman anyway, but yeah, dude should be lucky some women like casual, ill advised sex, or dude would be out of luck.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

So that’s why it’s kind of shaped like a plug!

What does Roosh think it says about him that the women who he wants everyone to believe will fuck anyone still want nothing to do with him? He is the universal anti-aphrodisiac.

kittehserf MOD
kittehserf MOD
10 years ago

I don’t know any women who are like OMG NOM NOM PENIS!

… I read a quite satisfyingly nasty story along those lines once …

Where are all these sexually inexperienced women supposed to be hanging out waiting for guys like this asshat to show up? Are there virgin bars in Siberia or something?

http://youtu.be/_n7y_j_nbBg

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

If I was stuck someplace that cold I think I’d be tempted to do lots of extra shagging just to keep warm.

kittehserf MOD
kittehserf MOD
10 years ago

But not with Roosh, of course. Questionable lumberjacks yes, greasy misogynist scumbags, no. They make frostbite look fun.

kittehserf MOD
kittehserf MOD
10 years ago

Oh hai, which is a bigger insult to the alpha alphaiest alphas: shagging any/several dudes who aren’t them, or not shagging any dudes at all, or shagging someone not physical?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I’m sure Siberia must have better prospects to offer as far as male companionship is concerned than Roosh.

Anarchonist
Anarchonist
10 years ago

Oh hai, which is a bigger insult to the alpha alphaiest alphas: shagging any/several dudes who aren’t them, or not shagging any dudes at all, or shagging someone not physical?

Incorporeals are taking all our women!

kittehserf MOD
kittehserf MOD
10 years ago

Incorporeals are taking all our women!

YESSSSS!

Muahahahaha

Orion
Orion
10 years ago

Answer: It makes no difference. As solipsists, any true alpha knows that all other men are incorporeal.