I‘ve been trying to avoid reading, much less writing about, the human stain and pickup guru who calls himself Roosh V. But I couldn’t keep myself away from his most recent post, an appalling little exercise called The Most Reliable Way To Tell If A Girl Is A Slut,which turns out to be even more appalling than its title.
Roosh, you see, has figured out a simple one-question test to determine the sluttiness of any woman. Let’s let him explain:
Many girls go to great lengths to hide their slutty past, knowing deep down the low value it conveys for being a suitable long-term partner, but there is one easy indicator that should tell you beyond a reasonable doubt whether she is a slut or not.
Has she lived on her own?
I believe my response to this is best illustrated by the following video of Don Draper saying “what?”
Let me just add:
HAS SHE LIVED ON HER OWN?
Are you exclusively dating high school girls?
If she’s an adult, or at least an adult somewhere in the vicinity of your own age, OF COURSE SHE’S LIVED ON HER OWN.
Yes, yes, I know, given this economy it’s true that some young people – mostly young men – are living at home a little longer these days than in the past, but the overwhelming majority have moved out by their mid-twenties. You’re 35 years old, dude.
Roosh continues:
If she has lived away from her parents for more than a year, she has—at the minimum—slept with many men whose last names she did not know, including one-night stands that did not involve condoms.
Dude, do you even know the first names of the women you sleep with? And haven’t you bragged endlessly about how you “raw dog it” with women? Weren’t you “raw dogging it” even when you were afraid you had AIDS? (Those are rhetorical questions; I already know that the answers are yes, and yes.)
An “independent” girl, removed from the constraints of a nuclear family home and its rules, curfew, and the concern of good parents, will allow the slutty dick gobbler within her to be released.
Women engaging in consensual sex that they enjoy … with someone else? THE END OF THE WORLD. Raping women who are too drunk to consent? According to Roosh himself, it’s “what I do.”
In other words, a natural-born slut who lives on her own will have far more sexual partners than if she lives with parents of average skill who require their daughter to be home by midnight.
Amazing deduction, Sherlock. And if she’s a nun, she’ll probably be having even less sex. The question is: why are you, as 35 year old man, regularly pursuing women young enough to live with their parents?
Give a man leeway in living life and he does great things, but give a woman this same freedom and she fully embraces the whore lifestyle, unable to stop from getting her fill of cock.
Really? Here are some young men who have recently started living on their own; I’m not sure that what they are doing could really be described as a “great thing.” (Content Warning: Drunk dudes hitting each other in the head with boards.)
If you want to estimate a girl’s notch count, simply multiple the number of years she has lived on her own by the number 3. If she has lived on campus in college for four years and then moved to a large city for two more, you can rest assured she’s had over 15 cocks in her vagina, and god knows how many more in her mouth.
Not that anyone’s worth is determined by how many penises they’ve had in their vagina, or anywhere else, but I feel I should note that these figures, clearly pulled from the Journal of Roosh’s Own Ass, are completely wrong.
According to people who’ve actually studied human sexuality, his number is just a teensy bit high. And by “teensy” I mean they’re off by an order of magnitude. According to one 2005 study, women in their 30s and early 40s report that they’ve had only 4 male sexual partners, on average, not the 36 to 78 that Roosh’s formula would predict for women who move out on their own at the age of 18 to go to college.
There are definite exceptions for girls who are relationship minded and had boyfriends of more than one year in length, but unless she mentions this, you’re interacting with a slut and should proceed accordingly by escorting her home and asking if you can use her bathroom. Then you must fornicate with her like so many other men.
Yeah, that’s really … creepy. You lie to get into her home, then proceed as if, as a slut, she’s already consented to sex?
You may be thinking the following: “Many Western girls live alone, at least 50%. Does that mean that over 50% of American girls are sluts?” That’s exactly what it means. Independence in women drives them to disempowering sexual behaviors that oppose motherly or wife behaviors. You must be skeptical of girls who have lived alone if you want a serious relationship.
At least if you want a relationship with a creepy, judgmental asshole who thinks like Roosh.
[T]here is absolutely no need for a girl to be independent by living alone without a husband unless you want her holes to be used as a real-life enactment of 50 Shades Of Grey by many strange men.
Well, that is, if you assume that 1) all women can magically find men, whether their father or a husband, who will pay all their bills and 2) Roosh’s opinions about any given woman’s sexual life matter more than the opinions of the woman herself.
If you end up having a daughter of your own, I highly recommend you limit her financial independence before she finds a husband. Refrain from giving her Think & Grow Rich advice that would be better suited for your son. Otherwise, she’ll become a slut who gives it up to any man who dances a good clown jig.
So: prepare your daughter to be dependent for her very existence on dudes who think like Roosh.
That may be the worst parenting advice I’ve ever heard. Then again, it’s from Roosh.
Wow, I really knocked that one out of the park last year.
Oh well, the doosh brigade wouldn’t give me a second look anyway.
I feel sorry for the women they do manage to predate on, though.
It’s always so nice to see Dooshcanoe come out with more asinine ideas and concepts. It’s quite sad that he thinks he’s so intelligent and he’s doing the world (men) a favor by “telling it like it is.” It’s really quite telling. He reveals too much of himself in his writings. He’s a Grade A loser with no life and a hateful ideology. I would be ecstatic if he quite this gig and go a real job and would shut the hell up forever. Ugh.
*got
That definition of “promiscuous” just makes me want to say “aw, bless” and pat the person who came up with it on the head.
That’s rape, asshole.
@Mr. Nick
I was mad before I started. Madness is not actually related to one’s interactions with manospherians.
@everyone else
I’ve been hearing the term “Taliban” applied everywhere, to everyone lately. It’s like the modern version of calling people “commies,” or a way to call someone a “Nazi” without invoking Godwin’s Law. Rightwingers apply it to Obama; leftwingers apply it to the latest Republican to trip over birth control.
It’s utterly lazy, and honestly offensive. The term “Taliban” has a meaning, and that meaning includes neither Obama nor Roosh.
…I note the assumption that all women are extremely gullible. I guess this goes without saying, as PUAs are trying to learn ways of gulling their way into sex.
Agreed. Taliban is to be used for the TALIBAN as “nazi” is to be used for…actually NAZIS. You know, like, NEO-NAZIS. They’re real. They’re still here. Only nazis are nazis. It’s maddening that people just throw around these terms like it’s nothing. It’s irresponsible, it’s lazy and it muddies the waters. It’s like when people compare rape to anything else that isn’t rape. SMDH.
@cassandrakitty: That definition of “promiscuous” just makes me want to say “aw, bless” and pat the person who came up with it on the head.
To be fair, I was archiving at the time, so IIRC it was in literature on controlling STIs in Africa written in the 60s or 70s.
If a man can’t even get into a woman’s house without trickery and lies, I have no reason to believe that the sex they subsequently had was at all consensual. I feel comfortable with my characterization of that line as advocating rape.
the slutty dick gobbler
See, I went directly to “slutty cock gobbler,” and next thing you know, I’m thinking about this. Ahhhh, I love it when my brain bleaches itself, don’t you?
Also, before marrying me, hubby got AROUND. At some point, for fun, we tried crunching the numbers for women he’d banged over the decade he’d been sexually active before meeting me. I don’t remember what it was, somewhere between “lots” and “a shit-ton.”
Oddly, I’ve never felt particularly insecure in bed with him. I figure, if he found my abilities that lacking, he would’ve dumped or told me by now.
RE: bodycrimes
35 and no career, no relationship, no income outside of his low value website and books, and stuck in Siberia.
Isn’t that what the Russian government does to you if they really don’t like you?
RE: dratman
I like bitchy feminists, in moderation.
I’d like YOU in moderation. Then WE can ignore YOU.
RE: Cat
Wait a minute, aren’t you that person who got banned for sockpuppeting multiple times? Piss off, you.
Which person who got banned for socking multiple times? We have a whole selection to choose from.
I did some quick googling and I don’t think Cat was ever accused of sockpuppeting.
It’s kinda dumb of dratman to not only come in here complaining about something stupid, but then give us orders about linking more cat videos or something. Youtube is a wondrous place. You should used it sometime.
*use ugh
I think it was Cat Woman who was socking all over the place.
I have never understood why people like d rat man issue orders on the interwebs. It’s the interwebs d00d.No one is going to obey you.
Google and Youtube are you friends. Yet people seem to forget about it pretty often and expect someone to cater to their crap.
RE: cassandrakitty
Which person who got banned for socking multiple times?
There was someone using variations of Cat Woman who was spewing shit like this a while back, IIRC.
I’m reminded of the troll who came here, blabbed a little, then all of the sudden posted — “Hey, can anyone find me research about Obama’s relationship to feminists?”
I guess they get confused. A forum with a lot of women posters doesn’t equal a secretarial pool (circa 1955 or so).
So am I exempt from his criteria because I’m queer?
I mean I’d hardly be offended at being called a carpet munching slut. I’m just curious if lesbians are like, people, in his mind.
Probably not, judging by the narrative he’s spinning in his head.
Although I think there are a fair number of librarians here. But still.
@coffee, Lesbians? People? Whatever are you thinking?!??!!! XD
@ coffee
Women aren’t full human beings to the PUA’s. They are ambulatory vaginas.
RE: blahlistic
You know, I think I read a really, REALLY disturbing porn about that once.
Cat Woman ingeniously disguised hirself as Cat Lady to try to sock. It’s the online equivalent of just pasting a silly fake mustache on your face.
At least there’s something of a relief when the attitude is this open and clear. You don’t have to spend any effort wondering where it comes from, if someone is misinterpreting things, or if some poor guy just needs to develop some empathic skills.
You can just write it all off completely because of the nonsensical lack of internal logic and the vicious hatred.
It’s the PUAs who look like they actually might be decent people if they could brain their way to realising women are human who are in their own way concerning. I kind of want to help them?
This just gets a big: Oh, right, you want clicks and you have no self esteem.