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Pickup guru Roosh V: Unmarried women who don't live with their parents are sluts

Evil slut in her den of depravity
Evil slut in her den of depravity

I‘ve been trying to avoid reading, much less writing about, the human stain and pickup guru who calls himself Roosh V. But I couldn’t keep myself away from his most recent post, an appalling little exercise called The Most Reliable Way To Tell If A Girl Is A Slut,which turns out to be even more appalling than its title.

Roosh, you see, has figured out a simple one-question test to determine the sluttiness of any woman. Let’s let him explain:

Many girls go to great lengths to hide their slutty past, knowing deep down the low value it conveys for being a suitable long-term partner, but there is one easy indicator that should tell you beyond a reasonable doubt whether she is a slut or not.

Has she lived on her own?

I believe my response to this is best illustrated by the following video of Don Draper saying “what?”

Let me just add:

HAS SHE LIVED ON HER OWN?

Are you exclusively dating high school girls?

If she’s an adult, or at least an adult somewhere in the vicinity of your own age, OF COURSE SHE’S LIVED ON HER OWN.

Yes, yes, I know, given this economy it’s true that some young people – mostly young men – are living at home a little longer these days than in the past, but the overwhelming majority have moved out by their mid-twenties. You’re 35 years old, dude.

Roosh continues:

If she has lived away from her parents for more than a year, she has—at the minimum—slept with many men whose last names she did not know, including one-night stands that did not involve condoms.

Dude, do you even know the first names of the women you sleep with? And haven’t you bragged endlessly about how you “raw dog it” with women? Weren’t you “raw dogging it” even when you were afraid you had AIDS? (Those are rhetorical questions; I already know that the answers are yes, and yes.)

An “independent” girl, removed from the constraints of a nuclear family home and its rules, curfew, and the concern of good parents, will allow the slutty dick gobbler within her to be released.

Women engaging in consensual sex that they enjoy … with someone else? THE END OF THE WORLD. Raping women who are too drunk to consent? According to Roosh himself, it’s “what I do.”

In other words, a natural-born slut who lives on her own will have far more sexual partners than if she lives with parents of average skill who require their daughter to be home by midnight.

Amazing deduction, Sherlock. And if she’s a nun, she’ll probably be having even less sex. The question is: why are you, as 35 year old man, regularly pursuing women young enough to live with their parents?

Give a man leeway in living life and he does great things, but give a woman this same freedom and she fully embraces the whore lifestyle, unable to stop from getting her fill of cock.

Really? Here are some young men who have recently started living on their own; I’m not sure that what they are doing could really be described as a “great thing.” (Content Warning: Drunk dudes hitting each other in the head with boards.)

If you want to estimate a girl’s notch count, simply multiple the number of years she has lived on her own by the number 3. If she has lived on campus in college for four years and then moved to a large city for two more, you can rest assured she’s had over 15 cocks in her vagina, and god knows how many more in her mouth.

Not that anyone’s worth is determined by how many penises they’ve had in their vagina, or anywhere else, but I feel I should note that these figures, clearly pulled from the  Journal of Roosh’s Own Ass, are completely wrong.

According to people who’ve actually studied human sexuality, his number is just a teensy bit high. And by “teensy” I mean they’re off by an order of magnitude. According to one 2005 study, women in their 30s and early 40s report that they’ve had only 4 male sexual partners, on average, not the 36 to 78 that Roosh’s formula would predict for women who move out on their own at the age of 18 to go to college.

There are definite exceptions for girls who are relationship minded and had boyfriends of more than one year in length, but unless she mentions this, you’re interacting with a slut and should proceed accordingly by escorting her home and asking if you can use her bathroom. Then you must fornicate with her like so many other men.

Yeah, that’s really … creepy. You lie to get into her home, then proceed as if, as a slut, she’s already consented to sex?

You may be thinking the following: “Many Western girls live alone, at least 50%. Does that mean that over 50% of American girls are sluts?” That’s exactly what it means. Independence in women drives them to disempowering sexual behaviors that oppose motherly or wife behaviors. You must be skeptical of girls who have lived alone if you want a serious relationship.

At least if you want a relationship with a creepy, judgmental asshole who thinks like Roosh.

[T]here is absolutely no need for a girl to be independent by living alone without a husband unless you want her holes to be used as a real-life enactment of 50 Shades Of Grey by many strange men.

Well, that is, if you assume that 1) all women can magically find men, whether their father or a husband, who will pay all their bills and  2) Roosh’s opinions about any given woman’s sexual life matter more than the opinions of the woman herself.

If you end up having a daughter of your own, I highly recommend you limit her financial independence before she finds a husband. Refrain from giving her Think & Grow Rich advice that would be better suited for your son. Otherwise, she’ll become a slut who gives it up to any man who dances a good clown jig.

So: prepare your daughter to be dependent for her very existence on dudes who think like Roosh.

That may be the worst parenting advice I’ve ever heard. Then again, it’s from Roosh.

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Viscaria
Viscaria
10 years ago

Wow, you’re an asshole! What a shock. /s

GrumpyOldMan
10 years ago

“The paranoid feeling that all women are secretly having massive amounts of sex” with alphas but not me.

Robert
Robert
10 years ago

Thinking about Roosh’s life as he currently lives it reminds me of a scene from the end of Lewis’s That Hideous Strength. Dr. Frost, realizing that the Institute is on fire and everyone else appears to have gone insane, does not attempt to escape. Instead, he.locks himself in a windowless room, pushes the key outside, and just sits and waits. It . . . does not end well.

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
10 years ago

@bodycrimes:

“35 and no career, no relationship, no income outside of his low value website and books, and stuck in Siberia” =

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r13riaRKGo0&w=560&h=315%5D

Dani Alexis
Dani Alexis
10 years ago

(Delurking after many moons. I’m still reading, just BUSY AS WHOA stealing some dude’s rightful spot in a graduate program)

I for one am grateful that Roosh V has FINALLY answered for me the burning question of how many men I slept with between 1999 and 2012. You see, I never knew! I was pretty sure the answer was “four,” but I admit, my math skills are pretty shaky. Turns out it’s really more like…um…lots of 3s!

I am so busy being touched by Roosh V’s willingness to do my math for me that I can’t even hear what he thinks about said math. Just really, really touched.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I must return to my busy schedule of being yet another woman Roosh will never sleep with ever. So busy!

/ bless your heart you sick fuck

Phoenician in a time of Romans
Phoenician in a time of Romans
10 years ago

carriekube1: They seem to have something I call, “Slut Paranoia”. The paranoid feeling that all women are secretly having massive amounts of sex and can’t trust them to have any restraint.

Because, dear heart, “that’s what I would do if I was a woman”…

Cassie's Major Domo
Cassie's Major Domo
10 years ago

Thinking about Roosh’s life as he currently lives it reminds me of a scene from the end of Lewis’s That Hideous Strength.

I sort of envision The Gulag Archipelago, although Roosh isn’t there for the same reasons as Solzhenitsyn.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
10 years ago

If he actually thought that he was a decent lay he wouldn’t be so terrified by the prospect of the women he fucks having something to compare him to.

Well, now, I’ve seen no indication that honesty has any place whatsoever in the PUA world.

…so the real reason they prefer virgins is because freedom.

Cat
Cat
10 years ago

LOL Where are all these Taliban men are coming from? If they think that I am a slut – let them think so. The worst thing that can happened to a girl would be to marry a guy like that. So if they will stay away from me they will do me a favor.
Taliban man, stay away from me
Taliban man, mama let me be
Don’t come hangin’ around my door
I don’t wanna see your face no more

I got more important things to do
Than spend my time growin’ old with you
Now man, I said stay away
Taliban man, listen what I say

Taliban man, get away from me
Taliban man, mama let me be
Don’t come knockin’ around my door
Don’t wanna see your shadow no more

Those colored lights to hypnotize
You don’t even have them to sparkle someone’s eyes
Now man, I said get away
Taliban man, listen what I say

Go, gotta get away, gotta get away
Now go, go, go, I’m gonna leave you, man
Gonna leave you, man
Bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye

You’re no good for me
I’m no good for you
Gonna look you right in the eye
Tell you what I’m gonna do

You know I’m gonna leave
You know I’m gonna go
You know I’m gonna leave
You know I’m gonna go, man

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

35 and no career, no relationship, no income outside of his low value website and books, and stuck in Siberia.

He can write anything he wants, if it cheers him up. He really needs it.

If other people were not drinking the Koolaid, I’d agree.
Maybe he’ll get miserable enough to change, but people don’t often do that.

Fibinachi
10 years ago

I guess it’s just me, but isn’t 3 sort of low? I mean, that’s 4 months between each round in your average year. Those are some fairly conservative, relaxed sluts. Partying every weekend gets you 1 out of 16? Seems about as statistically likely as your average pua ( 1/20)

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Wait, were we supposed to care that Roosh is unhappy? Nope, sorry, his misery is entirely self-created.

Phoenician in a time of Romans
Phoenician in a time of Romans
10 years ago

I guess it’s just me, but isn’t 3 sort of low? I mean, that’s 4 months between each round in your average year.

I’ve seen an official WHO definition of someone who has more than two sexual partners in a twelve month period as “promiscuous”.

Fibinachi
10 years ago

Eeerr, Cat? Could we maybe not compare an internet misogynist to an active politically motivated terrorist group just because both happen to include people of middle-eastern bent?

Fibinachi
10 years ago

Whoa. Okay then. Guess I’m a promiscious slutty slut. Damn.

It’s just that if his thesis is 3 a year, that leaves a loooooot of time for not slutting around

Cat
Cat
10 years ago

They are one step away from stoning women in public. “Taliban” is their trade mark, their nickname for a religious fundamentalist sect that could under certain environment become a terrorist group. Like “cola” for soda. And it has nothing to do with “middle-eastern” people. If a guy is from middle east it doesn’t mean he is religious fundamentalist that treat a woman as commodity that belongs to her father first and then goes to a husband. And there are these type of groups within USA as well.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

@ Cat

Wut?

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Who ordered the word salad?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

What I got out of that is that Cat thinks that there are a group of PUAs who refer to themselves as Taliban for, um, reasons? Because that’s totally a thing that PUAs would do, being great marketing and all?

Maybe I need more drugs and then this will make sense.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
10 years ago

They seem to be arguing that “taliban” is no longer a specific political organization but a generic term for oppressive asshattery. Nope. Cat, you are in error.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

My best translation:

“These guys are as bad as religious extremeists with their views of women, and one step away from becoming terrorists. So much so that their other name might as well be Taliban. By the way, I’m not saying all middle eastern people are religious extremists. There are extremists in the US as well.”

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Or maybe that it was PUAs who gave the Taliban their name? Again, nope. PUAs are a boil upon the butt of any culture they exist within, but they are not a shadowy political organization that’s creating terrorist groups and influencing the fate of nations. Come on now.

Orion
Orion
10 years ago

The idea is certainly not original to Cat. I’ve been hearing various far-right Christian groups described as the “American Taliban” for ages now.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
10 years ago

thebewilderness:

To be fair, I have heard the word “taliban” being used similarly to “nazi,” appending it to other names of people or organizations you don’t like. It kinda is becoming a generic term in exremeist rhetoric.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Far-right religious groups, sure, but what do PUAs have to do with any of that?

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