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Pickup guru Roosh V: Unmarried women who don't live with their parents are sluts

Evil slut in her den of depravity
Evil slut in her den of depravity

I‘ve been trying to avoid reading, much less writing about, the human stain and pickup guru who calls himself Roosh V. But I couldn’t keep myself away from his most recent post, an appalling little exercise called The Most Reliable Way To Tell If A Girl Is A Slut,which turns out to be even more appalling than its title.

Roosh, you see, has figured out a simple one-question test to determine the sluttiness of any woman. Let’s let him explain:

Many girls go to great lengths to hide their slutty past, knowing deep down the low value it conveys for being a suitable long-term partner, but there is one easy indicator that should tell you beyond a reasonable doubt whether she is a slut or not.

Has she lived on her own?

I believe my response to this is best illustrated by the following video of Don Draper saying “what?”

Let me just add:

HAS SHE LIVED ON HER OWN?

Are you exclusively dating high school girls?

If she’s an adult, or at least an adult somewhere in the vicinity of your own age, OF COURSE SHE’S LIVED ON HER OWN.

Yes, yes, I know, given this economy it’s true that some young people – mostly young men – are living at home a little longer these days than in the past, but the overwhelming majority have moved out by their mid-twenties. You’re 35 years old, dude.

Roosh continues:

If she has lived away from her parents for more than a year, she has—at the minimum—slept with many men whose last names she did not know, including one-night stands that did not involve condoms.

Dude, do you even know the first names of the women you sleep with? And haven’t you bragged endlessly about how you “raw dog it” with women? Weren’t you “raw dogging it” even when you were afraid you had AIDS? (Those are rhetorical questions; I already know that the answers are yes, and yes.)

An “independent” girl, removed from the constraints of a nuclear family home and its rules, curfew, and the concern of good parents, will allow the slutty dick gobbler within her to be released.

Women engaging in consensual sex that they enjoy … with someone else? THE END OF THE WORLD. Raping women who are too drunk to consent? According to Roosh himself, it’s “what I do.”

In other words, a natural-born slut who lives on her own will have far more sexual partners than if she lives with parents of average skill who require their daughter to be home by midnight.

Amazing deduction, Sherlock. And if she’s a nun, she’ll probably be having even less sex. The question is: why are you, as 35 year old man, regularly pursuing women young enough to live with their parents?

Give a man leeway in living life and he does great things, but give a woman this same freedom and she fully embraces the whore lifestyle, unable to stop from getting her fill of cock.

Really? Here are some young men who have recently started living on their own; I’m not sure that what they are doing could really be described as a “great thing.” (Content Warning: Drunk dudes hitting each other in the head with boards.)

If you want to estimate a girl’s notch count, simply multiple the number of years she has lived on her own by the number 3. If she has lived on campus in college for four years and then moved to a large city for two more, you can rest assured she’s had over 15 cocks in her vagina, and god knows how many more in her mouth.

Not that anyone’s worth is determined by how many penises they’ve had in their vagina, or anywhere else, but I feel I should note that these figures, clearly pulled from the  Journal of Roosh’s Own Ass, are completely wrong.

According to people who’ve actually studied human sexuality, his number is just a teensy bit high. And by “teensy” I mean they’re off by an order of magnitude. According to one 2005 study, women in their 30s and early 40s report that they’ve had only 4 male sexual partners, on average, not the 36 to 78 that Roosh’s formula would predict for women who move out on their own at the age of 18 to go to college.

There are definite exceptions for girls who are relationship minded and had boyfriends of more than one year in length, but unless she mentions this, you’re interacting with a slut and should proceed accordingly by escorting her home and asking if you can use her bathroom. Then you must fornicate with her like so many other men.

Yeah, that’s really … creepy. You lie to get into her home, then proceed as if, as a slut, she’s already consented to sex?

You may be thinking the following: “Many Western girls live alone, at least 50%. Does that mean that over 50% of American girls are sluts?” That’s exactly what it means. Independence in women drives them to disempowering sexual behaviors that oppose motherly or wife behaviors. You must be skeptical of girls who have lived alone if you want a serious relationship.

At least if you want a relationship with a creepy, judgmental asshole who thinks like Roosh.

[T]here is absolutely no need for a girl to be independent by living alone without a husband unless you want her holes to be used as a real-life enactment of 50 Shades Of Grey by many strange men.

Well, that is, if you assume that 1) all women can magically find men, whether their father or a husband, who will pay all their bills and  2) Roosh’s opinions about any given woman’s sexual life matter more than the opinions of the woman herself.

If you end up having a daughter of your own, I highly recommend you limit her financial independence before she finds a husband. Refrain from giving her Think & Grow Rich advice that would be better suited for your son. Otherwise, she’ll become a slut who gives it up to any man who dances a good clown jig.

So: prepare your daughter to be dependent for her very existence on dudes who think like Roosh.

That may be the worst parenting advice I’ve ever heard. Then again, it’s from Roosh.

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Cassie's Major Domo
Cassie's Major Domo
10 years ago

Has he ever even had a relationship that lasted for any length of time?

Well, he has stated (the World’s Saddest Tweet) that after having sex with a girl three times, he believes she has nothing to contribute to the “relationship.” I think that’s a good “outer boundary” for the length Roosh’s relationships.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

Ally S
I really wish that I knew what to say to you. All I can say that I’m sorry, I know exactly how you feel and send you hugs. I hope you will find someone who will take care of you.

Everyone
Doosh just can’t take it that women are free and can do things on their own. He doesn’t see us as people and wants us back in line so he and other monsters can do whatever they want. He proberly can’t even hold a relationship more than a week.

This is how abusers think, they are never wrong and they want others to take the blame.

And ::sniff:: Robin Williams is dead! Waaaaaah!!! RIP

Cassie's Major Domo
Cassie's Major Domo
10 years ago

I am proud that my first use of blockquotes dodged the Blockquote Monster. How long shall I avoid its clutches? (Yes, I’m new to posting, but been around here for more than a year. Hi!)

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Tempting fate, there.

Anarchonist
Anarchonist
10 years ago

For all of the talk about how men are capable of great things I haven’t seen any of these guys actually DO anything of real relevance.

Well duh. Judging men based on their merits is misandry, as we then incur the apex fallacy. Rather, men should acquire any and all merit from the achievements of other men, so-called merit by proxy, which is derived from an innate maleness common to all men born with a penis*.

Similarly, all women are responsible for the real or male-perceived evils of all women, because of innate femaleness of born vagina-having* is fundamentally a treacherous concept. Since females all make-up and no effort make Jack a bon-bon**.

*Trans people don’t exist in misogynist land, so the clarification is obviously rather pointless. Also, gay people are womanly and therefore actually women. All straight men = misogynists. Or something.

**I think my brain sprained an ankle a few paragraphs back.

Shiraz
Shiraz
10 years ago

Buttercup posted:

“MOVING CHECKLIST

o Turn on electricity and cable
o New potholders
o Zombie cock rampage”

**gigglefit** Oh, buttercup, you’re hitting it out of the park today!

NonServiam
10 years ago

Whenever I see this nonsense , I tend to think, “sweet, so Roosh and his ilk don’t think I’m good enough for them? Well that’s one less headache in my life.”

But then I get really worried about the women that do have to put up with them.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I’m pretty sure the only women who have to put up with them are either imaginary or only had to interact with them for as long as it takes to make a disgusted face and walk away.

freemage
10 years ago

Cassie’s Major Domo: There should be a welcome package along for you, shortly.

tealily
tealily
10 years ago

That’s all really rich coming from someone who is likely a walking collection of social diseases. Not that I believe he gets laid half as much as he claims.

I’d also expect the “superior” and “logical” gender members to be able to comprehend that because a small number of all of them did great things, it doesn’t reflect on all of them just by virtue of sharing similar genitals.

It would be really depressing to read the shit that comes out of these creeps, but then I remember that they are preaching to the same rejected loser choir that they are from and I feel much better knowing that they’re all a bunch of lying blowhards.

And then I laugh my ass off.

dorabella
dorabella
10 years ago

David, you ruined my day. I clicked on the link and I haven’t been able to stop reading the comments to that post, it was like the splattered animal on the highway effect (you can’t stop looking even if it’s revolting). These guys are fascinating! (from an anthropological point of view) They live in another world, one where it matters to them how many sex partners a complete stranger has had in her life! Why on Earth should anybody care about that, how empty must your life be, if you give so much importance on complete strangers’ sex life. I just don’t get it.
They actually spend time and effort trying to understand if a woman has had a lot of a little sex. I find it fascinating, in a very creepy sort of way. A normal guy tries to say something… normal (I can’t find another word) like “thinking how many genitals a woman has seen is not going to make your genitals any happier” and they patiently explain to him that a woman cannot become a good wife and mother if she’s seen too many penises. WTF?!?

The amazing thing is that I went to read his suggestion to “improve your game” with picking up girls in a bar, and they’re not bad at all. I mean, they’re ridiculous, but they’re not that bad, at least some of them might actually work, and make you more interesting to a total random stranger in a bar. He must really do nothing else with his time (to go back to “men are creative and do great things!”)

damselindetech
10 years ago

Oh, look, I found a video of Roosh trying out his super-infallible dating techniques

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-NrPOMBKnw%5D

Lids
10 years ago

Christ, he’s such a disgusting human being. I admit, I’m 21 and I still live with my dad. Due to some shitty circustances I never got a real birth certificate until this year so I was never able to get an ID. And now my dad who was keeping my social security card in his room has “lost it” which means now I’m going to have to replace it before I can get an ID. I don’t want to say he did it on purpose, but part of me feels that way because he likes having people completely dependent on him and constantly reminds me that I am by making comments about how I’m mooching and how I’m never going to move out or get a job even though I’ve expressed a desire to actually GET job because I’m stuck in the house most of the time and I don’t get enough social interaction. I also don’t WANT to live here for my entire life, despite what my dad seems to think. I swear, Douche could almost like him, he controls my finances and I have to ask for anything I need or want and he makes me feel guilty for that and then he picks at my self worth with him comments about how I’ll never move out and laughing when I talk about getting a job and moving out,.

Sorry, that was off-topic. I’m sorry. Anyways, I still live with my dad, and it’s true I’m still a virgin, but it’s not because it somehow keeps me from having sex. My parents got me a BC implant last year, I’m pretty sure they don’t care if I’m sexually active.

tealily
tealily
10 years ago

You have to wonder about men that are so obsessed about what constitutes a proper wife and mother when they can’t get dates or laid. Unless it’s just a convenient excuse for why they aren’t with anyone.

Gram
Gram
10 years ago

This Roosh guy sounds nuts. Who is he supposed to be?

Iogrey
Iogrey
10 years ago

That was truly heinous. I’m new to this blog, and it’s very entertaining, but that was scary!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Yep, “don’t troll this thread” definitely means “go troll that other thread instead”.

extraterrestrial biological entity princess

What does that make women who can’t live with their parents because their parents are dead?

Ellie
Ellie
10 years ago

[Content note: child sexual abuse/sexualization of young girls] Emma the emo has the weirdest commenters : http://fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=102459

Auntie Alias
Auntie Alias
10 years ago

Opening with a MTM image was genius and that’s all I’m going to say about the steaming pile of manure that is Roosh.

Gram, FFS.

Viscaria
Viscaria
10 years ago

Oh wow. CW on Ellie’s link for child sexual abuse, really specific sexual description of young girls’ bodies. I was really not ready for that.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

Gram
We don’t use ableist terms here.

extraterrestrial biological entity princess
“What does that make women who can’t live with their parents because their parents are dead?”

Well they better live with their grandparents or find someone who will adopt them I guess.

samantha
10 years ago

Wow…I was going to write a funny thing in response to Roosh and his…well…idiocy, and it was going to contain something about hoping he finds a nice virgin with vagina dentata. Then, I found out that the condition ACTUALLY EXISTS!!! I kid you not, and now I am REALLY hoping he encounters a woman with it!!!

Here is the url, for anyone interested. Awesome!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagina_dentata

dustedeste
dustedeste
10 years ago

I think my favorite part was:

…a real-life enactment of 50 Shades Of Grey…

Like, I read that book (I was really really bored and it was an awful trainwreck of the worst writing)… And I can’t decide if this is really accurate (creepy-ass abuser isolates woman and constantly freaks out about her virginity and his jealousy) or really really inaccurate (that girl from Twilight has sex with exactly one person, and not really that frequently, nor is she the one who sought it out)

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

The puke “what” at the end sums up my feelings after reading Douches misogynist, projection filled rant.