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Red Pill dude: Women are "barely-sentient organic sex toys," insufficiently enthusiastic hobbyists.

Why can't women take up interesting hobbies, like men? (Note: this is a real book.)
Why can’t women take up interesting hobbies, like men? (Note: this is a real book.)

 

Now that he’s taken the Red Pill, the Reddittor who calls himself F9R recently announced, he’s “started seeing women as people rather than as magical beautiful goddess creatures.” That’s a good thing, right? Seeing women as actual human beings rather than some imaginary construct?

Well, not so much. Because it turns out that women are just terrible as human beings. No, it’s true! In a rambling comment in the Red Pill subreddit with more than 100 upvotes, F9R reports his scientific findings on the ladies of the world.

Now I’m disillusioned with them because women, for the most part, are boring people. 95% of them spend more time on their appearance than anything else, so as a result they never really have interesting hobbies or develop respectable skill in any particular area. This, in my opinion, could be one of the reasons that women have historically under-performed in almost every activity/industry.

Ah, that explains it! There haven’t been any women presidents, or Popes, or Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, because the ladies are spending way too much time fussing with their lipstick and trying to find the exact right shade of eyeshadow.

There haven’t been more women inventors, not because women were denied education for thousands of years or because STEM fields are filled with angry manbabies who cry oppression whenever a woman comes near, but because women don’t have any fascinating, mentally stimulating hobbies like the Red Pillers of the world have. You know, like weight-lifting, or “Game,” or “saying terrible things about women online.”

So you swallow the pill, look around you, and see two groups of people. The first group, men, generally have no innate value and have had to work for everything in life. This is why the loser-winner spectrum is so broad for men; don’t work at all and you’ll end up homeless, work your ass off and you could make millions. The second group, women, have considerable innate value and don’t spend nearly as much time fighting to stay respectable, because they can always fall back on their female safety net; this is why there are almost no homeless women, but it’s rare to find a female CEO.

Ah, the old “female safety net.” You know, the free reserve of rent money and bon bons that all women have access to. Or does he mean “well, if worse comes to worst, you can always become a prostitute”

Not quite as easy to understand as the concept of an oppressive patriarchy, but demonstrably more accurate.

He’s got that right: it’s definitely not as easy to understand.

Tying this in with sex drive: an RP’er will have a hard time respecting plates or women they meet at the bar, because when looking at these women as people rather than as magical, mysterious women, the man will be underwhelmed by her bland personality and/or her obnoxious attempts to seem less bland by being a loud annoying cunt.

Still, if she’s got a nice pair of tits and a round ass, you can forgive her personality and lack of emotional development.

Gosh, I am shocked that a whiny manchild who refers to women as “plates” can’t find anything interesting about them besides their sexy bits.

But then let’s say you get her in bed, and you fuck her, and you’re having a good time. As soon as you finish and are in that refractory period, you look over at the person next to you and see them differently. The tits and ass lose a bit of their appeal since you just finished, and now you see the person next to you for the immature person they really are, and it’s like you’re lying in bed with a child.

Huh. Just a thought, but if you want to date mature women you might want to start by dating, you know, mature women, instead of creepily fixating on women and girls much younger than you are?

Or maybe what’s really happening is that when you look over at the woman you just had sex with, she’s looking at you with disgust, wondering how the hell she ended up in bed with such an asshole, and you rationalize away her disdain towards you as her being “immature.”

It’s weird as fuck and you start to question your life choices. Next time you go out to the bar, you remember that moment, and decide to raise your maturity standards a little. To your dismay, no women measure up.

I hate to tell you this, but I’m pretty sure there aren’t a lot of mature women who see your bitter, immature ass as much of a prize.

That’s the Catch-22 of the Red Pill. It gives you all the women you could ever want, but you see them for what they really are.

Yeah, I’m sure that’s the problem. You’re dizzy with success.

So you’ve got two choices: work on your game and improve yourself in order to keep fucking barely-sentient organic sex toys, or go your own way and focus on your life instead because the game just isn’t worth it to you.

The grapes barely-sentient organic sex toys are definitely sour.

Men who choose the former are Red Pill alphas, and men who choose the latter are MGTOW. Blue Pillers just ignore the game and continue to get screwed over because they have no idea what they’re doing.

Keep telling yourself that.

And seriously, go your own fucking way already. Just do it. The further away, the better. If you think of women as barely sentient organic sex toys, stick with the non-organic, non-sentient variety of sex toy and leave the actual human beings alone.

Oh, and speaking of needlepoint, here’s my favorite song about crocheting. I know I’ve posted it before, but I don’t care. It’s not every day I have such a good excuse to post Julie Ruin.

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Karalora
6 years ago

they never really have interesting hobbies or develop respectable skill in any particular area.

Who believes he ever bothers to ask women about what they do or enjoy? Anyone?

Anyone?

Yeah, me neither.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
6 years ago

Hold up.

The first group, men, generally have no innate value

It must be so sad to go through life thinking of yourself in this manner. 🙁

What’s with people posting manifestos on TRP?

Ally S
6 years ago

But then let’s say you get her in bed, and you fuck her, and you’re having a good time.

Notice the sheer asymmetry in his perspective. He’s getting her in bed, he’s fucking her, and he’s having a good time. Not a word about the woman’s enjoyment or lack thereof.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

Pics or it didn’t happen, wannabe alpha.

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

What a pleasant dude. Truly, I’m getting all horny and aflutter at the first paragraph! What a lovely person who has so much to offer the world!

Amanda
Amanda
6 years ago

Haha. If 95% of women spend the majority of their days on makeup, then how do so many women have jobs, families and what not? They must not sleep.

I keep wondering who these imaginary women are, because these stereotypes don’t fit me or the women I know. I have worked very hard at my job (and didn’t rely on sex appeal to get promotions – my boss is a hippie, bohemian woman), I have an interesting hobby (aquascaping) that requires patience, research and dedication, and – gasp – I’m a woman who also loves “feminine” things like makeup!

In the minds of guys like this, all women are apparently either mindless beauties or manly, emasculating evil doers.

Bonelady
Bonelady
6 years ago

Gotta wonder what this guy considers an interesting hobby. Dynamite juggling? Swimming with sharks? Dating guys like him? I’d take the sharks, thank you. I expect that he would find reading, gardening, sewing, knitting, training dogs and cooking to be too, too boring. (My hobbies.) Good.

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

Not diagnosing, swear to gawd…

Splitting (also called all-or-nothing thinking) is the failure in a person’s thinking to bring together both positive and negative qualities of the self and others into a cohesive, realistic whole. It is a common defense mechanism used by many people.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splitting_(psychology)

Either goddesses or “plates” (WTF?!?! “plates”?) but not people.
Genuinely being who he really is with a woman terrifies the shit out of him.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

Does anyone outside the MRM actually buy stuff like this as real? To me it just reads like letters to Penthouse forum for even angrier and more loser-ish guys than the original. He’s all blah blah first this and then yadda yadda then that and I’m just going…you know that we know that none of this ever happened, right?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
6 years ago

No joke, these guys actually, really, literally need to go there own way and “focus on [their] life instead.”

This is the best advice I’ve ever seen coming from TRP.

These dudes have an obsession with women, and it makes them miserable. Go your own way, define your life on your own terms rather than the millions of imaginary women you’ve never even talked to but claim to have sex with!

When they’ve gone and found out how to be comfortable in their own skin, I guarentee they’ll not only be alienated by the extreme hate rhetoric, but they’ll see women as people again. Actually as people, not “barely-sentient organic sex toys.”

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
6 years ago

Mostly, though, stop going to sites like TRP.

sadie6
6 years ago

I’ve seen the whole “women don’t have hobbies” thing on other forums too. Which makes no sense since there are a ton of female dominated hobbies. What they usually mean is “they dont have hobbies I like so they have none.”

Knitting, Sewing, Crochet, Needlework, etc. And have they been to a craft store that’s packed with women?

I really don’t understand where the fuck they get this from. All my friends who are female have some kind of hobby. There’s also countless youtubers and bloggers I follow that blog about Art, books, crafts, etc aka fucking hobbies.

And the ironic thing is these guys are some of the most uninteresting people on the planet, spending most of their time analyzing and making theories about getting laid and talking about women.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

But if we do participate in the hobbies that they think they should own then they just get all no girls in the treehouse, wwhhaaahhh.

hellkell
hellkell
6 years ago

Makeup takes me 15 minutes tops when getting ready for work. That leaves more than enough time in the day to be the awesome person I am, but something tells me that Mr. Alpha up there doesn’t give fuck one what a woman does with her life outside of being cute and a potential source of blowjobs for him.

I wonder how many women without makeup he notices?

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

What’s aquascaping, Amanda?

redpoppy
redpoppy
6 years ago

95% of them spend more time on their appearance than anything else, so as a result they never really have interesting hobbies or develop respectable skill in any particular area.

Ummm pretty sure your boner would be VERY UPSET if a woman did not wear make-up. If this fuckface ever met a woman with hobbies he’d not only think her hobbies are uninteresting but probably talk about how she makes his boner sad. Asshat.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
6 years ago

I guess if your only interaction with women is in bars or at parties or something, where everyone puts way more time into their appearance than normal… Then I can see where this guy gets the impression that women don’t have hobbies?

Otherwise, does he walk down the street ever? Talk to co-workers? Anything?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

“Let me tell you what I have observed about women via my super awesome research method of never interacting with any women at all, unless you consider watching lots of porn to be interacting with a woman.”

redpoppy
redpoppy
6 years ago

If this moron ever saw me in a bar (let’s hope that NEVER EVER HAPPENS) I’d probably be one of those “loud annoying cunts” he hates so much. Good.

marinerachel
6 years ago

Aquascaping is like landscaping underwater. People who design extraordinary aquarium displays using plants and rocks are aquascapers. There’s actually a reality show about a couple big league aquascapers who do public aquarium display tanks, etc.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

Has nothing to say = boring.

Says something = loud annoying cunt.

Says something interesting = not a woman, obviously.

Amanda
Amanda
6 years ago

LBT, aquascaping is like gardening, but in a fish tank! It’s really awesome. Basically, you buy aquatic plants and hardscape (which can be driftwood, rocks, etc.) and arrange them in the tank however you want. You have to experiment with lighting and fertilizers to get good plant growth, as well as find plants your fish won’t eat or dig up – it’s very challenging but a lot of fun, and very satisfying to see the end result!

marinerachel
6 years ago

One of the main complaints of the guy who dumped me was I’m insufficiently shallow because I spend too little time on my appearance. Apparently, and I paraphrase, one should derive their self-worth from how others perceive them based on appearance. That might make sense when you’re effortlessly very good looking and a lot of the advancements you’ve made in your life have been aided by your beauty. That’s…. not the case for most of us, I’ll wager.

To my knowledge, I’m pretty normal in that while I infrequently wear makeup, I pluck my eyebrows and blowdry my bangs daily in order to maintain a “put together” appearance. If this is true and I’m not an outlier, most women in fact do not spend 95% of their time on makeup.

redpoppy
redpoppy
6 years ago

Woman who wears make-up = horrible, shallow, organic sex-toy thing. Why doesn’t she have any hobbies?

Woman who does not wear make-up = Ugly feminist. She needs to put out and wear make-up and shut up. And stop concentrating so much on your hobbies! You’re so selfish!

Woman who has hobby that is considered “manly” = She’s a fake “whore” trying to be one of the guys/her woman brain could never understand the complexities of said hobby.

Woman who has a “feminine” hobby = OH MY GOD SHE IS SO BORING why can’t she have a more interesting hobby!

Red Pillers. They’re so fucking predictable it hurts.

marinerachel
6 years ago

I’ve actually just FINALLY got the right fertilizer composition so my low growing plants and my tall plants are growing gorgeously. I like to have a short, thick growth at the front of my tank that becomes a progressively tall forest towards the back. My little ferns and such have just been dying though and I’ve been livid. The poor tank has been beautiful in the back, shit in the front. There’s a bunch of beautiful new growth coming from the previously wilting banana plants etc. though so I don’t even need to replace them, just give them time to develop and grow. I couldn’t be more pleased.

I’ve given up on lilies though. I simply can’t supply them with the iron they need without potentially hurting literally everything else in the tank.

saintnick86
saintnick86
6 years ago

That’s the Catch-22 of the Red Pill. It gives you all the women you could ever want, but you see them for what they really are.

Every time one of these guys says something like that – I can’t help but think they are all posturing.

Men who whine about how awful women must be, only to then emphasize just how many of them they “totally banged”, seem like the kind of people who’d simply deal with sex workers instead of going to a bar or whatever and having any extensive interaction with a woman. But, of course, won’t admit that for the sake of their own ego. So they’ll claim they got laid by way of “game” than paying a prostitute to do so.

It certainly doesn’t help when all the evidence I’ve seen of “game” always comes off as a failure that no woman actually falls for. Even Roosh’s “advice” seems based more around taking advantage of women in a drunken state that wooing them in any way, which further proves that “game” is likely a delusion made up by over-sexed misogynists.

It’d just be nice, for once, to have these people – especially so-called “Men Going Their Own Way” – just fucking let it go and keep to themselves. They can be as miserable as they want in their lonesome and not have to subject the rest of us to it, as if we should feel sorry for them.

kittehserf MOD
kittehserf MOD
6 years ago

I don’t imagine this imbecile has ever asked a woman what her interests or hobbies are.

For that matter, what are his, apart from whining about imaginary unsatisfactory encounters on the internet?

kittehserf MOD
kittehserf MOD
6 years ago

It occurs to me that if I’d ever been approached by a fuckwit like this, and didn’t manage to get rid of him immediately, the thing to do might be talk _in_detail_ about my job cutting up dead things at the Museum. Describing washing brains down sinks might have chased him away, especially with an “I really miss that job” vibe.

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

RE: marinerachel and Amanda

Huh. I mean, I kinda ASSUMED that’s what it was, but thought I was being silly. I didn’t know that was even a thing! Sure shows me!

RE: saintnick86

So they’ll claim they got laid by way of “game” than paying a prostitute to do so.

God, sex work must have the WORST stories ever. Can you imagine how awful this guy would be as a customer?

GrumpyOldMan
6 years ago

Whenever I read crap like this, I wonder, “Do these guys ever actually have conversations with real women?”
But then, to have a conversation, you have to take a bit of your mind off her tits and ass, and these guys don’t seem to be able to manage that.
I bet women find THEM really fascinating.

vaiyt
6 years ago

Oh, geez, another MGTOW/MRA trying to find a new dehumanizing simile for women. You know who that kind of harebrained dedication reminds me of? Neo-Nazis. This sounds so much like the kind of shit coming from Chimpfree and Stormfront that gets posted on FSTDT, it’s not even funny.

Lids
6 years ago

I guess jewelry making, woodwork, sketching, video games, reading, and writing don’t count as worthwhile hobbies lol. This actually reminds me of a quiz from playbuzz I was ranting about earlier, it made it out like people who wear makeup and care about their appearance are superficial. It puts SO much shame on women for caring about their appearance. And you’ll get shamed if you don’t care about it either. Sadly, the quiz was written by a woman. I feel so bad for women who have been brainwashed into thinking that if you want to wear makeup and look cute there’s something wrong with you and you are superficial. The only people who are superficial are people who try to put their standards onto other people’s appearances.

redpoppy
redpoppy
6 years ago

None of those things are acceptable hobbies because they don’t include whining about women on the internet.

damselindetech
6 years ago

Ye-ah… not sorry my hobbies wouldn’t endear this dude to me.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Now I’m disillusioned with them because women, for the most part, are boring people. 95% of them spend more time on their appearance than anything else, so as a result they never really have interesting hobbies or develop respectable skill in any particular area.

Selection bias? These guys only express an interest in women who look a certain way. The rest of us are too ugly or old and therefore invisible. The vast majority of women don’t naturally look a Miss USA contestant. Looking like that requires time and effort. So these guys only pursue (probably unsuccessfully) women who are very focused on their appearance and because the rest of us don’t exist to them, they are able to tell themselves that all women are shallow and focused too much on looks.

Amanda
Amanda
6 years ago

Marinerachel, that’s awesome! I have dwarf sagittaria in the foreground and two types of swords (melon and rose) in the background. I tried banana plants but my fish devoured them. So far the plants I have are doing great! They sell big background plants at aquarium plants.com; that’s where I got mine. The XXL rose sword even grows up out of the tank; it looks really cool.

naltia
naltia
6 years ago

Hey, no knockin’ guys who crochet! My dad does loom knitting and he loves it. I have a couple afghans, a scarf, a winter cap, slippers, and other various items my father made for me. He also makes stuffed animals for all of his grand-kids. <3

🙂

kittehserf MOD
kittehserf MOD
6 years ago

Louis not only knits, he got interested in it through me.

grumpycatisagirl
6 years ago

1. I LOVE that book cover. It gets three rave reviews on Amazon too: http://www.amazon.com/Rosey-Griers-Needlepoint-Men-Grier/dp/0802704212/ref=sr_1_sc_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407727418&sr=8-1-spell&keywords=needpoint+for+men

2. What’s with these dudes thinking that there are “almost no homeless women”? I never knew anyone thought this until I starting reading this blog. I remember one troll asking “have you ever seen a homeless woman?” Yeah, all the time. Where TF do they get that one?

alternatesteve90
6 years ago

@naltia: Aw…..such a nice fella. =)

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

Miranda’s hobbies: tai chi, meditation, slash fanfiction.

Gigi’s hobbies: dead things, nature stuff, creepy stories (but only very specific types)

Robert
Robert
6 years ago

Redpoppy, I was going to post, but you said it all. Good work!

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

What’s with these dudes thinking that there are “almost no homeless women”? I never knew anyone thought this until I starting reading this blog. I remember one troll asking “have you ever seen a homeless woman?” Yeah, all the time. Where TF do they get that one?

Again, because all women who aren’t making their boners happy are completely invisible.

saintnick86
saintnick86
6 years ago

LBT:

God, sex work must have the WORST stories ever. Can you imagine how awful this guy would be as a customer?

I honestly couldn’t! That said, it’d be amusing to read their thoughts on him – which would be true (perhaps even amusing) in comparison to all his obvious (and really grotesque) lies…

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

God, sex work must have the WORST stories ever. Can you imagine how awful this guy would be as a customer?

From the ones I’ve gotten acquainted with in netspace, yeah.

LBT
LBT
6 years ago

I WISH I didn’t see homeless women. I wish nobody were homeless at all!

RE: saintnick86

I imagine sex work is like, the most literal ‘customer service’ job ever, and probably has the worst STORIES ever. It’s why I kinda recoil when people are like, “Lulz, just go to a sex worker, you misogynist!” Because. Uh. Do you really think they’re going to treat the sex worker any better? I would HOPE that said worker would have nothing to do with someone that creepy and unpleasant!

Really, these dudes should not be performing any sort of sexual act with ANYONE except themselves until they stop being massive cockbites.

CattyGal
CattyGal
6 years ago

‘Still, if she’s got a nice pair of tits and a round ass, you can forgive her personality and lack of emotional development’.

Aha haaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Never laughed so much in ages. Maybe this loser’s job is to be two faced and write hypocritical shit for a living.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

All I see when I look at women is T&A. This is the sign of a mature, emotionally well-developed adult.

hellkell
hellkell
6 years ago

It’s cute he’s demanding depth when he’s so shallow you could skip rocks over him.

kittehserf MOD
kittehserf MOD
6 years ago

It’s why I kinda recoil when people are like, “Lulz, just go to a sex worker, you misogynist!” Because. Uh. Do you really think they’re going to treat the sex worker any better?

Exactly. If anything a sex worker is in more danger, because of the power imbalance in him having paid her and the expectation of control over her.

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