I’m going to help myself to a few hugs out of the barrel o’ hugs because apparently I am more upset than I realized.
Like, breaking down in the middle of changing my baby’s diaper when I think about how Robin Williams didn’t see any more point in going on.
And the oceans are giving up their methane, and the ice caps are melting, and that baby under my hands is going to inherit a choking sweltering mess of a planet because the only thing some people care about is money.
sparky
10 years ago
That was really inappropriate, Gram.
sparky
10 years ago
Hugs, Falconer.
Sometimes I look at the world and think of my daughter going out into that world and I just get enraged and terrified at the same time. I don’t have any good answers for it.
Addiction makes depression so much worse. Relapsing is terrible, being in active addiction is terrible, getting clean is terrible. I’m still dealing with the fallout from my last run. I’ve been on medication for depression for almost six years. When I relapsed in February, I stopped taking all of my medication – three different prescriptions – at once. Any semblance of self-care goes out the window. I feel for anyone who is coping with addiction and severe depression at the same time. Sadly it’s a common combination.
At least my local paper is using the occasion of Robin Williams’ apparent suicide as an occasion to run stories about how to recognize signs of depression, and how to get help.
TW for shittiness: Over on Reddit, some misters are saying Williams killed himself to avoid paying more alimony to his ex-wives.
In other words, in my comment above you have two examples to compare: how decent people react to a very sad event, and how MRAs react to a very sad event.
Auntie Alias
10 years ago
@jared
There doesn’t need to be a particular trigger that causes someone to take their own life. Major depression is that painful all on its own. The sense of hopeless is profound.
Sometime back in the 90s my ex-husband and I were visiting Disneyland and riding the monorail. We were surprised to see Robin Williams on it with a woman and a child. What struck me was how tired and despondent he looked.
@teacat
The fact that her emotional pain appears to have lasted over a couple days of meticulous planning and wasn’t entirely acute (something that a family member with experience in suicide thought was rather out of the ordinary) makes it all the more hard to come to terms with.
Indeed. At least in my boss’s case I understand there was an actual trigger. He even talked to me (and others) on the phone a few hours beforehand about someone who he felt had betrayed him. Little did any of us know he was hurting badly enough to want to end it. It was no different than any other time he was upset about similar incidents.
I’m glad your auntie was able to let you all know she loved you and I wish you and your family all the best in processing your loss.
I’ve lost track of the thread where we discussing the ebola drugs, but here’s an article that has more details on why the US isn’t spreading the drug around–the CDC says there’s simply zero doses available, and they still don’t know if it works.
So even if they threw everything they had at this drug, it would still be two-three months before they had any to give.
It shows how substances taken to make you “feel good” are the biggest factors in making people feel at their worst emotionally.
This is a gross oversimplification of the issue and not really what I was getting at.
Viscaria
10 years ago
I’ve sent a quick email to the mods about Gram’s comments in this thread.
Gram, you’re making people uncomfortable in a thread that states explicitly in the OP that that is not okay. Could you please pay attention to what you’re saying and how it’s affecting others?
cassandrakitty
10 years ago
Can we not speculate about why a person who none of us knew killed themselves? Thanks.
Viscaria
10 years ago
Please read the replies you’ve received.
cassandrakitty
10 years ago
Actually, is David around? I think Gram’s first comment in this thread may deserve a ban. I guess it would be possible to post something that was in worse taste, but you’d have to try pretty hard.
Auntie Alias
10 years ago
Thanks to whoever cleared most of Gram’s comments from the thread.
In the good news category, I was just informed that I’ve been selected for an in-person interview for the job I really want. A few days after Labor Day. Gotta take my interviewing outfit to the dry cleaners, I guess!
Arctic Ape
10 years ago
I just read a hugely interesting and facepalm-worthy story in a local newspaper. Should I post it in that old open thread for non-personal stuff?
It’s about shady online dating companies that charge per message, then hire poor people to impersonate pretty young women in order to tease messages out of visiting men.
(content notes: economic and emotional exploitation, crumbling faith in humanity)
We Hunted The Mammoth
I’m going to help myself to a few hugs out of the barrel o’ hugs because apparently I am more upset than I realized.
Like, breaking down in the middle of changing my baby’s diaper when I think about how Robin Williams didn’t see any more point in going on.
And the oceans are giving up their methane, and the ice caps are melting, and that baby under my hands is going to inherit a choking sweltering mess of a planet because the only thing some people care about is money.
That was really inappropriate, Gram.
Hugs, Falconer.
Sometimes I look at the world and think of my daughter going out into that world and I just get enraged and terrified at the same time. I don’t have any good answers for it.
Thanks, sparky.
Addiction makes depression so much worse. Relapsing is terrible, being in active addiction is terrible, getting clean is terrible. I’m still dealing with the fallout from my last run. I’ve been on medication for depression for almost six years. When I relapsed in February, I stopped taking all of my medication – three different prescriptions – at once. Any semblance of self-care goes out the window. I feel for anyone who is coping with addiction and severe depression at the same time. Sadly it’s a common combination.
I love kittens plus babies.
At least my local paper is using the occasion of Robin Williams’ apparent suicide as an occasion to run stories about how to recognize signs of depression, and how to get help.
TW for shittiness: Over on Reddit, some misters are saying Williams killed himself to avoid paying more alimony to his ex-wives.
In other words, in my comment above you have two examples to compare: how decent people react to a very sad event, and how MRAs react to a very sad event.
@jared
There doesn’t need to be a particular trigger that causes someone to take their own life. Major depression is that painful all on its own. The sense of hopeless is profound.
Sometime back in the 90s my ex-husband and I were visiting Disneyland and riding the monorail. We were surprised to see Robin Williams on it with a woman and a child. What struck me was how tired and despondent he looked.
@teacat
Indeed. At least in my boss’s case I understand there was an actual trigger. He even talked to me (and others) on the phone a few hours beforehand about someone who he felt had betrayed him. Little did any of us know he was hurting badly enough to want to end it. It was no different than any other time he was upset about similar incidents.
I’m glad your auntie was able to let you all know she loved you and I wish you and your family all the best in processing your loss.
To pay back the hugs I helped myself to, here are baby otterses.
Yes, that one has a pacifier.
I’ve lost track of the thread where we discussing the ebola drugs, but here’s an article that has more details on why the US isn’t spreading the drug around–the CDC says there’s simply zero doses available, and they still don’t know if it works.
So even if they threw everything they had at this drug, it would still be two-three months before they had any to give.
Didn’t Gram do some trolling a different thread? What is he doing here?
Gram, please stop talking about why Williams killed himself.
There’s a time and a place for it, but this is neither, and speculation isn’t helping.
Internet diagnoses are not welcome here.
Well, I just walked past my boss’s office where he keeps CNN going around the clock, apparently just for the noise.
Of course they’re talking about Robin Williams.
Just the sound of his voice gave me another crying jag.
I’m pathetic.
This is a gross oversimplification of the issue and not really what I was getting at.
I’ve sent a quick email to the mods about Gram’s comments in this thread.
Gram, you’re making people uncomfortable in a thread that states explicitly in the OP that that is not okay. Could you please pay attention to what you’re saying and how it’s affecting others?
Can we not speculate about why a person who none of us knew killed themselves? Thanks.
Please read the replies you’ve received.
Actually, is David around? I think Gram’s first comment in this thread may deserve a ban. I guess it would be possible to post something that was in worse taste, but you’d have to try pretty hard.
Thanks to whoever cleared most of Gram’s comments from the thread.
Gram, this is clearly identified as a “no trolls” thread. Do not attempt to post here any more.
Oh man, I just went back a page and got reminded that Unimaginative posted a video of laughing quadruplets.
And they are absolutely adorable but I can barely keep up with my twins. Hats off to the mom and the dad in that video!
Those laughing babies are quite the pick-me-up.
In the good news category, I was just informed that I’ve been selected for an in-person interview for the job I really want. A few days after Labor Day. Gotta take my interviewing outfit to the dry cleaners, I guess!
I just read a hugely interesting and facepalm-worthy story in a local newspaper. Should I post it in that old open thread for non-personal stuff?
It’s about shady online dating companies that charge per message, then hire poor people to impersonate pretty young women in order to tease messages out of visiting men.
(content notes: economic and emotional exploitation, crumbling faith in humanity)
@cloudiah, good luck! Wishing you all the best!