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Actual "meme" from AVFM. I did not make it up or choose the font.
Actual “meme” from AVFM. I did not make it up or choose the font.

That last post was a bit, well, grim. So I thought I’d lighten the mood with some terrible, terrible memes from A Voice for Men’s Facebook page. They’re so Men’s Human Rightsy that you can practically smell the human rights wafting off of them!

Or could that be the powerful and obnoxious odor of mendacity?

Either way, enjoy! For a fun game, see how many different examples of ideas that do not actually enhance human rights you can find in the memes below! For example, I found both misogyny and transphobia! See what else you can find!

avfmkillsleep avfmtransphobia avfmawesome avfmindustrev avfmmothersdayyy

 

This last one is kind of my favorite. Fuck you, mom! I took out the garbage last week!

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hellkell
hellkell
7 years ago

Thanks, Fibi, cannot unsee.

These dudes have less than no design sense. How the hell does that happen?

Ally S
7 years ago

Also, the industrial revolution liberated women? Tell that to women of color in the US.

vaiyt
7 years ago

@kirbywarp

Why would you have a picture of a macho dude working on a machine in a meme trying to argue that the industrial revolution helped women?

Because the point of the meme is to whine about the poor menz?

@strivingally

(and I’m sure the atheist man-logickers in the MRA would be pleased to know that their next counter-argument, “if they didn’t want to have kids they could’ve just shut their legs!” is exactly the same one used by religious leaders to justify all kinds of regressive bullshit).

They’re birds of a feather.

redpoppy
redpoppy
7 years ago

Geez, lady. I got you all this nice stuff and you still won’t shut up and put out. I’m being horribly oppressed!

/sarcasm

Bina
Bina
7 years ago

I’m sure the atheist man-logickers in the MRA would be pleased to know that their next counter-argument, “if they didn’t want to have kids they could’ve just shut their legs!” is exactly the same one used by religious leaders to justify all kinds of regressive bullshit

Bingo. Of course, “those sluts should just keep their legs shut” directly contravenes that OTHER great tenet of theirs: “Butbutbut I have NEEDS!!!!”

Also, fun trivia factoid: The birth control pill was first proposed by a woman, Margaret Sanger. And scientists obliged her by looking at what other women, indigenous Mexicans no less, were doing to prevent conception via the oral route: with a brew made from wild Mexican yams. So if any of those dudes want to scream “But we gave you the pill, you ungrateful bitches!”, we can truthfully reply that no, they did NOT. Mexican native women did, and Margaret Sanger facilitated the process by which it became industrialized!

strivingally
7 years ago

I’m pretty sure all of these can pretty much be summed up thus:

“I was raised and taught that women and men should be a certain way, and women aren’t sticking to their pigeonhole! I don’t like that! Women have to act the way I believe they should or EVERYTHING IS WRONG AND IT’S ALL THE FAULT OF WOMEN!!!~!~!~”

Also, how do these jerks still not realise that saying “any given women has no way of knowing if any given man is a rapist” is NOT the same as saying “all men are assumed to be rapists until proven otherwise”? Not all dogs are going to bite me, but you’re damn right I won’t just approach any random dog unless I think it’ll be okay, and even when I do I’ll still be on the lookout for warning signs it might not be as harmless as I first thought. And I get to choose my level of risk tolerance – there might be other people unwilling to approach dogs they don’t know at all, and that’s perfectly fine.

This is not the same as me claiming all dogs are dangerous or can’t be trusted. And for the bad-faith trolls who love to see slurs that aren’t there, I’m not calling men dogs either. It’s called an analogy.

Phoenician in a time of Romans
Phoenician in a time of Romans
7 years ago

@Lady Mondegreen: What’s that you say? The MRAs responsible for silly memes like this aren’t actually personally responsible for the Industrial Revolution?

Don’t you get it? The men who built the Industrial Revolution had a Penis. Neil Armstrong had a Penis. Sir Edmund Hilary had a Penis. I have a Penis. Therefore we are JUST THE SAME and I share in their accomplishments.

If you only had a 2 inch flaccid lump of flesh, you too could be a Hero. But you’re just a hater, you feminist!

vaiyt
7 years ago

Bingo. Of course, “those sluts should just keep their legs shut” directly contravenes that OTHER great tenet of theirs: “Butbutbut I have NEEDS!!!!”

They don’t contradict at all. You just have to read it as “Those sluts should just keep their legs shut for men who aren’t me”.

redpoppy
redpoppy
7 years ago

I love how ignorant of history these fools are. And by love I mean hate. A prime example of the feeeemales doing MANLY JOBS is Ada Lovelace. Where would we be without her today? Hedy Lamarr? Grace Cooper? Probably not on the internet complaining about those icky wimminz.

Luzbelitx
7 years ago

I mean, is it that hard to understand that socially constructed are literally imposed on society? There is no choice involved.

Indeed. And THAT is the problem to begin with!

But I don’t think these guys even get the meaning of choice,

blahlistic (@blahlistic)

Women weren’t innovators and inventors because society pretty much didn’t allow them to be, in most cases…and did not acknowledge them when they were.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/13/130519-women-scientists-overlooked-dna-history-science/
But, you know, that’s facts. The MRAs prefer their own brand of truthiness.

tiko72
tiko72
7 years ago

The first meme on their facebook page at the moment says ‘fight for your rights’.

Mmm,how could they do this I wonder. Well just a few suggestions-

Be rational and help bring attention to male rape,prison rape in particular.

Do the same regarding male victim’s of DV.

Organise a fundraiser where instead of the money going into the black hole of Elam’s pocket,it goes toward a shelter or helpline (even both) for above.

Get together with feminist’s to get rid of damaging gender roles.This will solve a few issues mainly to do with childcare and traditionally feminine/masculine career’s.

But as far as they’re concerned they’ve already done loads of work by clicking the like button.
Wow 13000 likes,now that’s what I call a revolution.

Luzbelitx
7 years ago

I hope you people don’t mind I share a bit of something on human rights here.

Today we found the 114th grandchild stolen by the civilian-military dictatorship in Argentina.

During the 1970s, the most violent coup d’Etat in our country took place. They were determined to annihilate that silly democracy thing everyone was talking about.

And they took the annihilation part rather literally: thousands of people were kidnapped, murdered and “disappeared”.

But it wasn’t enough for them to erase a whole generation of political activists (and artists and students and journalists and…). They kidnapped hundreds of pregnant women and then waited for the children to be born before murdering them.

And then, they gave those children to “good” families, usually those of military or police officers, to raise them as their own.

Over 300 children were reported stolen this way, and only a bit over 100 were found so far, and it’s been already 30 years.

Two branches of pacifist protesters emerged during the dictatorship: Mothers and Grandmothers of Plaza de Mayo (that’s where the government house is).

Grandmothers were those who had their daughters or daughters-in-law kidnapped while pregnant, while Mothers had only lost their daughters or sons.

Estela de Carlotto was one of the first Grandmothers, and is the current president of their association. She is the one who found her grandson today.

This is a tiny bit of our history recovered, a tiny healing in a giant wound, and a new reason for hope and to never give up.

Everyone is so deeply moved here, there’s so much happiness and joy but also a lot of pain and sorrow.

It is a bittersweet victory, but a victory nonetheless.

25 years after recovering our democracy, when many hoped everything would be forgotten already, Grandmothers still bring families together.

And in these moments, it’s as if the whole country was just one family.

Thank you for reading.

Abacus Toms
Abacus Toms
7 years ago

@Luzbelitx

I don’t know what to say. That is incredible. Thank you for sharing.

pallygirl
pallygirl
7 years ago

@Luzbeltix: I am so sorry for what happened to your country in the 1970s. Military dictatorships never go well for anyone but the military and the people they like. 🙁

All the hugs and kitties to you. I only wish I could offer more.

kittehserf MOD
kittehserf MOD
7 years ago

MRAs: Men can’t help but rape. Their brains and empathy shuts down at the sight of a woman’s butt. Some rapes are totally justified, in fact, women are begging to be raped by existing while female. Minors predate on child molesters. Getting groped and assaulted is just a price they pay for being in the company of well known, well off men. Street harassment is A-OK and probably women’s fault. Men gonna men. Consent is too hard to understand and makes sex boring anyway.

But don’t forget, 90% of rape accusations are false anyway, because women get cheap thrills from accusing innocent men (and all men are innocents who would never hurt women).

Before that, women couldn’t really participate in said revolution due to not having control over their own bodies (and I’m sure the atheist man-logickers in the MRA would be pleased to know that their next counter-argument, “if they didn’t want to have kids they could’ve just shut their legs!” is exactly the same one used by religious leaders to justify all kinds of regressive bullshit).

Not to mention that marital rape didn’t exist in law, and women were the property of their husbands. Refusing sex wasn’t exactly an easy proposition, even before you acknowledge that many women wouldn’t have thought they had the right to, however much they wanted to.

cloudiah
7 years ago

Luzbelitx, I was lucky enough to visit Argentina back around 2006, and remember reading about the bravery of the Mothers/Grandmothers of the disappeared. It is heartwarming that Estela de Carlotto has found her grandson. Thank you for sharing that story.

Viscaria
Viscaria
7 years ago

Anyone else read “women can be awesome” plastered over a picture of a thin young white woman with a guitar as “women can — and should — be the perfect girlfriend who lives in my imagination”?

pallygirl
pallygirl
7 years ago

@Viscaria: yes I read that into it – women can be awesome if they make my boner happy.

Confusing Medical Science Since 1971
Confusing Medical Science Since 1971
7 years ago
redpoppy
redpoppy
7 years ago

I just realized I made a mistake. I meant Grace HOPPER. Ugh. Minus 10 Gryffindor.

katz
7 years ago

I know it wasn’t the author’s intent, but my brain read the woman with the pink guitar as the woman who will never know what it’s like to be awesome, not as the woman who is awesome.

pallygirl
pallygirl
7 years ago

Back to that damn AVfM logo, for some reason it reminds me of the Zodiac Killer every single time I see it. Not helped by the fact it’s in red, and smeared, so it looks like blood.

Men’s Rights Movement: even the logo shouts “not really about rights”.

Luzbelitx
7 years ago

Thank you, Abacus, pallygirl and cloudiah! (hugs and kittens are very welcome as well 🙂 )

Despite the horribly sad past, this is a joyful moment. We have worked very hard to recover our collective memory, and Mothers and Grandmothers worked hardest of all.

Because many of them passed away before they found the truth, I’m really happy some of them still live to reunite with their families, and the bond they created with my own generation (born after we were already back to a democracy) cannot be broken.

The future looks a bit brighter today 🙂

Thank you again.

brooked
7 years ago

The first one is so bizarre that David has to use the caption to counter the natural “that can’t be real” first reaction to it.

This post did cheer me up, particularly the meme where they mangle the concept of social construct beyond recognition and then claim feminists don’t understand it. “Feminist Theory: Not as well considered as feminists think.” is very catchy and a total burn, well played random AVfM doofus.

“AVfM: More poorly considered by the minute”.
“AVfM: We really have no idea what we’re doing, please send money.”

friendly reader
friendly reader
7 years ago

Where does this notion that all feminists see themselves, personally, as victims come from?

Look, I’m a white American from a relatively wealthy family. My mom work outside of the home. My parents let me play with whatever toys or friends I wanted to. They gave me books with strong female characters. The church I grew up in has been ordaining women since I was born. Teachers encouraged me in all my fields – especially my math and science teachers, because they recognized their fields were still very slanted. I have faced very little discrimination or harassment in my life. Probably the one area I’m most affected by sexism is in my health care, where somehow Viagra is obviously necessary while birth control pills aren’t.

But I’m a feminist because I know that I’m lucky. I know that, overwhelmingly, most women don’t have the fortune I’ve had. I’ve had a friend who was raped but didn’t tell anyone until years later because she didn’t think anyone would believe. I’ve met women who grew up in congregations where they were told they were to blame for all sin in the world and that’s why they couldn’t be pastors. In one of my class observations just this year, I witnessed a teacher tell a little girl that she should wear skirts and grow her hair longer, and I watched that little girl look so sad.

Just because I’m not personally a victim doesn’t mean that I can’t see that the system’s biased.

Tasha Batsford
7 years ago

I just have no words.

Except that it once again proves the old adage: You can’t fix stupid.

YoullNeverGuess
YoullNeverGuess
7 years ago

Why does the man in the first picture have a gun? Is he going to shoot the tree? Is the tree feminism?

I am not sure what it all means, but I have much more respect for men now that I’ve seen it.

Johanna Roberts
7 years ago

All I have to say is: What. Whaaaaaaat. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

Bina
Bina
7 years ago

They don’t contradict at all. You just have to read it as “Those sluts should just keep their legs shut for men who aren’t me”.

Oops…mea culpa!

Bina
Bina
7 years ago

I know it wasn’t the author’s intent, but my brain read the woman with the pink guitar as the woman who will never know what it’s like to be awesome, not as the woman who is awesome.

I saw a woman who is awesome without the “help” of the MRBM. And who bathes in their impotent tears.

magnesium
magnesium
7 years ago

Ah, the industrial revolution. Men working outside the home, while women remained unemployed domestic goddesses might’ve been the ideal, but it was hardly an option for most people. Most families could not subsist on a single income during that era, so working class women typically held jobs at least until their children were old enough to get jobs. They never got the good jobs, of course. Even when they no longer held jobs, they still did sewing and laundry to bring money in. I’m amazed that this is still such a secret for most people. Hasn’t anyone else seen Les Miserables?

Women and children have always had to work. It’s only in the last century that that has changed. The myth that women and children have never done dangerous, labour intensive jobs needs to die next to the myth that woman and children don’t die in wars. Seriously, the 50’s and 60’s in America are not an example of the entirety of human history.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grisette_(French)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Girls
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2119875/Lewis-Hine-Child-oyster-shuckers-inhospitable-working-conditions-borne-thousands-children-labour-laws-passed.html
http://www.cubebreaker.com/remarkable-photos-of-child-labor-during-the-industrial-revolution/

cloudiah
7 years ago

I made a little album demonstrating that women and girls have always had to work.

gorillaella
7 years ago

“placing unnecessary conditions on your own existence” – wa?

vaiyt
7 years ago

Money is a social construct, so I can just declare myself rich and money will be worth as much as I, individually, want.

pallygirl
pallygirl
7 years ago

And of course there is no literature based on work that girls used to do, like this: http://americanliterature.com/author/hans-christian-andersen/short-story/the-little-match-girl

Save The Queen
Save The Queen
7 years ago

@Magnesium

MRAs are probably unaware of that history because their conception of history is the “Great Man” tradition, where only political history, military history, diplomatic history, and the biographies of “great men” is the only “real” history that’s worthy of study. I’m willing to bet, given their right-wing and libertarian leanings, plus the fact that so much history taught in primary school emphasizes important dates and events, that they don’t consider social history a legitimate topic of historical interest at all. They probably don’t much care about the history of ordinary people. I base this on opinion on conversations with people about my own area of historical research (I’m a PhD. history student). Most older men (like my dad and my many, many uncles) genuinely get confused when I tell them I study indigenous people and their interactions with settler families in the colonial era.

pallygirl
pallygirl
7 years ago

And then I stupidly read The Happy Prince by Wilde because it came up as a link and I’m in tears because that story always makes me cry.

YoullNeverGuess
YoullNeverGuess
7 years ago

Trust Vice to soft-pedal the MRM. <>

YoullNeverGuess
YoullNeverGuess
7 years ago

Oops! That would be < >

weirwoodtreehugger
7 years ago

MRAs who think only men die at work neef to stfu too. It’s like they haven’t heard of the Triangle Shirt waist fire. Or more recently, the Bangladesh factory collapse. http://www.globallabourrights.org/campaigns/factory-collapse-in-bangladesh

YoullNeverGuess
YoullNeverGuess
7 years ago

Sigh. ((Sigh))

Save The Queen
Save The Queen
7 years ago

There’s also the Lowell Mill Girls, which helped launch northern industrialization in the U.S.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowell_Mill_Girls

Wikipedia I know, but any good American history textbook today emphasizes their significance.

seranvali
7 years ago

I don’t like it when people trivialize war by taking obviously war related, commemorative graphics and using them for their own shitty posters that have nothing to do with their original purpose.

Also that graphic with the guy at the machine? That’s pinched from Metropolis. I wonder if it’s still under copyright. I guess that would depend on which version they filched it from.

seranvali
7 years ago

Also: that crack about the industrial revolution? They need to go and actually do a little research on the subject. Women and children died in mills during the industrial revolution. They were considered so unimportant that their overseers wouldn’t even turn off the machines if they got caught in them. They died by the thousands of work related illnesses with no health care or compensation. They worked down mines for a pittance and died in them, too. They were exploited mercilessly because their employers could get away it and the workforce had no choice but to accept what they were offered or starve. To say that women and children should be thankful for that is a cruel joke.

damselindetech
7 years ago

@friendly reader:

Where does this notion that all feminists see themselves, personally, as victims come from?

Since feminists acknowledge women are literally victimized, that means victim necessarily needs to become an insult in order to stop the conversation in its tracks. You can’t talk about ways to end victimization if you’re too busy running in circles, defending being victimized as not being a personal failing.

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

*sighs* I should be annoyed that they’re using a famous photo that was used to QUESTION the Industrial Revolution as a way to toot its horn, but that’d require surprise.

Also, guys, did you know if you CHOOSE to be a less privileged member of society, you deserve whatever shit you get? Wow, anti-Semitism is OVER, y’all! All we need is for people to just choose not to be Jewish! IT’S GENIUS IN ITS SIMPLICITY.

RE: ladyrainicorn517

Yeah! If gender is a social construct, you ladies can just choose to be men, and then you won’t get raped!

*snort* Yeah, because you know, that TOTALLY worked for me.

RE: cloudiah

I would like to encourage Mammotheers to make your own AVfM memes,

This is going to end up with me drawing more bonerplates, isn’t it.

Luzbelitx
7 years ago

I’m still WTF at the first one. It’s so bad it makes me laugh. What. The. Fuck. o.O

cloudiah
7 years ago

This is going to end up with me drawing more bonerplates, isn’t it.

This would not be a bad thing.