So I did an interview about my Confused Cats Against Feminism blog with Catster.com, a site that devotes itself to collecting “helpful and hilarious information for the worldly but still infatuated Cat aficionado.” Alas, as a result of publishing this interview with me yesterday, they now seem to be collecting angry MRA commenters as well.
Here are some highlights of the, er, debate so far, which I’ve waded into myself, perhaps unwisely. (These are selections, with a bunch missing, though the comments that look obviously like they are responses to other comments, are.) Maeve Connor is the author of the post about me.
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Here, by the way, are some of the not-belittling, all-inclusive, non-mocking contributors to Women Against Feminism.
I’m just taking a wild guess here, but I’m pretty sure none of these gals are “tweens.”
I’m pretty sure the last picture up there is not of an anti-feminist tween. I’m pretty sure it’s a pro-feminist adult. Or maybe I don’t understand sarcasm. I think I understand sarcasm, though.
I finally thought of something to submit for CCAF. Now just have to wait for them to reach the front of the queue.
Saphy, you didn’t go to school with Miss Felicity Beedle, by any chance?
(/Terry Pratchett reference)
Fingers crossed, Kim!
If your kitties don’t get through you can join us other rejects in the Corner of Grief. 😛
Arctic Ape, in this universe we were pretty much the group equivalent of her, yes. Poo is so satisfying to talk about.
As a teen I was sure that poop talk was how you knew someone had gotten old. This belief came from noticing that old folks would give me updates from their bowels and occasionally ask after mine. Now, I’m that person.I destroy my teen by announcing the time to be “poop o’clock” and I ask the kids if they’ve pooped today when they seem grumpy or complain of sore tummies. by my own rules, I’m old. On the other hand, if you want to make a kid smile, say “poop”. Poop humor is the best humor as far as kids are concerned. So, I like to think I’ve become hip and relatable with the very, very, young people.
There is some evidence that my rule is incorrect. I have met people in their 20’s who send their roommates snapchats of their dookies. I’m not sure what to think of that. That is a whole new level of TMI.
I thought it meant you were a failed clone of a genetically engineered madman and had a fondness for comically overlarge swords.
Re: men discussing issues with feminism — I think that as long as it’s phrased with room for “I disagree” and open to discussion, it’s probably okay. Of course, some opinions are just vile, but I’m personally quite forgiving to those willing to admit they might be wrong but want to learn.
Re: the crow and bear — yeah, if bear wanted a snack it wouldn’t have grabbed the crow by the wing and wandered off, peak on the nose or not. And crows are scary smart, it’ll remember that the bear saved it.
Random question for Americans, what’s the legalality of camping in a state park that doesn’t have a camping area? No cooking, carry out what you carry in, roughing it style for a night. It’s been far too long since I slept outdoors and the only threat in said park is rattlesnakes, who aren’t exactly inclined to bother you if you don’t bother them.
cassandrakitty should keep an eye on these kids in the future:
Argenti, I think legally if you’re not on an approved campsite, you’re supposed to be out of the park by a certain hour. If it’s a park without any approved campsites, I’ve seen rangers do a walkthrough to herd out stragglers (though when funding is low, they might skip that because they don’t have enough rangers).
But… if you’re quiet, and careful, and tidy, I bet you could fly beneath the radar.
If you decide you want to go to an approved campsite, I can ask my BiL if there are any he’s gone to in CT that are particularly nice. (I think he mostly camps in NH though.)
@emilygoddess That or you are an alien who turns into an aryan after becoming emotional.
Great. That had to be the first comment on a new page.
The comment is due in part to this fan fiction crossover. (I wrote that as drossover at first and that may be a Freudian slip.)
http://www.toplessrobot.com/2008/12/fan_ficition_friday_goku_and_anne_frank_in_until_t.php
That is next-level TMI. My girlfriends and I will occasionally have a group email about poo (one is infamous for sharting), but pics? No.
Crows have been said to alert large predators to the presence of prey. I don’t know if that’s a fact, but it sounds like something they would do.
I knew a man who told a story about a time when upon hearing a crow in front of him cawing away, looked behind him and saw a cougar. The big cat got skittish and left him alone. He was sure the crow had purposefully saved him, and maybe it did. It may have just been cussing at the cougar or the man. It may also have been hoping for some people scraps when the cougar was finished with it’s dinner. Either way, he was lucky he stopped and looked around when he did and for that, he gave credit to the crow.
I don’t know if the bear understood that the crow was in danger or of it was just curious about all the ruckus it was kicking up. It would be nice to think it saved the crow intentionally. It doesn’t look like the bear had any intentions of eating the crow. It stopped eating to go fish the bird out. It seemed happy to leave it alone once it was out and go back to it’s meal. It wasn’t hunting. It may have been playing. It may well have been helping. I don’t think a couple weak pecks would have been enough to frighten away a bear if it meant business. How cool would it be if they became buddies?
Awww…..
“I don’t think a couple weak pecks would have been enough to frighten away a bear if it meant business.”
Seriously, this. Maybe it was sorta thinking “could be food”, got pecked and went “fuck it, I have apples”, but it wasn’t seriously looking for a bird snack if a nose peck made it give up!
Cloudiah — I was thinking sleeping giant, and not off the tower trail (I want to try the blue trail, round trip — 10 miles of real hiking — spending the night off the trail would make that easier, and be lovely). Plenty of CT parks have camping grounds, but I’m not keen on tenting in a field and calling it camping (or worse, renting a cabin!)
Basically what this bullshit is saying is, “If you don’t agree with us it’s because you’re too stupid and weak to make your own decisions.”
Wrap your head around the lunacy of that statement for a second. The arrogance is matched only by the complete lack of self-awareness.
Now, I know someone’s out there is thinking about saying something like, “But if you’re against feminism it’s only because you either hate women or you don’t actually understand it’s message.”
No. That’s bullshit. I’m all for treating animals decently. I don’t support Peta. I support unionized labor. That doesn’t mean I support all labor unions.
Feminism has become more than just an ideology. It is a movement and those in charge of steering the bus have lost their minds. I feel bad for oldschool and traditional feminists because their movement has been taken over by hate-filled bigots. Some of the most misogynistic drivel I read comes from the very people who claim to be fighting fighting against misogyny but make it very clear that they view women and to weak and stupid to be accountable for their own actions.
Corvidae are so cool. Why doesn’t Word Press recognize the word corvidae?
Oh, and D, you’re schtick isn’t very original. Either prove todays feminists are horrible and mean or GTFO and stay out. You’re boring and it’s painfully obvious your complaints about contemporary feminism are actually complaints about the fact that the movement has been successful and men have slowly been losing their privilege (not to be confused with rights).
I’m not ready for poop pictures. I can’t appreciate the hilariousness of it. I am only offended by it. Maybe if I were more secure I could engage in Rate My Poop type pranks. Alas, the thought of doing so offends me personally and, even if it did not, I am afraid others would judge me for it.
I am sure D would totally stand up for feminism if it didn’t challenge them to change any behaviors or lines of thought.
RE: Robert Ramirez
I looked at the comment on Catster and keep on accusing David saying he is mocking tweens, Why the fuck are they doing that?
Maybe they’re assuming everyone on tumblr is really young? Which is not true, at least on my corner; I have folks who follow me who’re my parents’ age.
RE: intrepid
I don’t think a woman with that much eyeshadow should be calling other people slutty… just saying..
Don’t be a dick. How does wearing eyeliner make someone slutty?
RE: opium4themasses
The comment is due in part to this fan fiction crossover.
OH GOD I REMEMBER THAT FIC. AAAAAAAAH
RE: D
Feminism has become more than just an ideology. It is a movement
…it STARTED as a movement. You know, the suffrage movement?
@ D
Give specific examples and links to back up your weird claims or GTFO
It became a movement? I’m having a weird day, so my brain went: like the Alice’s Restaurant anti-massacre movement?
Enjoy! (I’m not tired…or proud)
http://youtu.be/LjKF7aQthcQ
Oh god I listened to the entire thing. I would be embarrassed, but whatever, I’m keeping up with my writeathon requirements.
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Okay, fine. YOU don’t need feminism. That doesn’t mean EVERY WOMAN doesn’t need feminism. And the very nature of the fight is that feminists work on behalf of ALL women. If any given woman chooses to live as if women still have only the rights they had 100 years ago, cool. Good for them. Because of feminism, they can CHOOSE to live that way.
Because of feminism, the rest of us don’t have to.
And, yanno, some feminists are assholes. If you think some feminist activists are bigots and misogynists, call them out. Critique them. Point out the error of their ways. Offer alternative viewpoints.
I don’t think shutting down feminism is going to fix the problem, given that it’s not actually possible to do so.
I love Alice’s Restaurant!