Apparently Richard Dawkins was worried that people might have forgotten what an asshat he is. So, helpful fellow that he is, he decided to give us all a demonstration of why he’s one of the atheist movement’s biggest liabilities, a “humanist” who has trouble remembering to act human.
Earlier today Dawkins decided, for some reason, that he needed to remind the people of the world of a fairly basic point of logic, and so he took to Twitter and thumbed out this little thought:
However petulantly phrased this is, the basic logic is sound: If I say that Hitler was worse than Stalin, I’m not endorsing either Hitler or Stalin. Unless I add “and Stalin was totally awesome and I endorse him” at the end.
The trouble is that Dawkins didn’t stop with this one tweet. He decided to illustrate his point with some examples. Some really terrible examples.
Yep, that’s right. He decided to do what comedians call a “callback” to some terrible comments he made last year about what he perversely described as “mild pedophilia.” And then he added asshattery to asshattery by suggesting a similar distinction between “date rape” and “stranger rape.”
Anyone seeing these comments as insensitive twaddle designed to minimize both “mild” pedophilia and date rape has good reason to do so. As you may recall, in the earlier controversy about so-called “mild” pedophilia, Dawkins told an interviewer for the Times magazine that
I look back a few decades to my childhood and see things like caning, like mild pedophilia, and can’t find it in me to condemn it by the same standards as I or anyone would today.
He went on to tell the interviewer that when he was a child one of his school masters had “pulled me on his knee and put his hand inside my shorts.” But, he added, he didn’t think that this sort of “mild touching up” had done him, or any of the classmates also victimized by the teacher, any “lasting harm.”
Huh. If Dawkins says that a teacher groping him was no big deal, I guess this kind of “mild” abuse shouldn’t be a big deal for anyone else, either, huh?
I’m pretty sure there’s some sort of logical fallacy here.
Given his history of minimizing these “mild” sexual crimes, it’s not a surprise that his crass tweets today inspired a bit of a twitterstorm.
Dawkins has responded with his typical petulance, and has stubbornly defended his comments as an exercise in pure logic that his critics are too irrational to understand.
What I have learned today is that there are people on Twitter who think in absolutist terms, to an extent I wouldn't have believed possible.
— Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins) July 29, 2014
.@mikester8821 Yes, it is so obvious it is painful. But they aren't debating, they are emoting.
— Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins) July 29, 2014
If you take a few moments to go through his timeline you’ll find many more tweets and retweets reiterating this “argument.” Dawkins is not the sort of person to admit to mistakes. Indeed, he so regularly puts his foot in his mouth it’s hard not to conclude that he must like the taste of shoe leather.
But these recurring controversies can’t be doing much for his reputation. Indeed, they seem to cause more and more people to wonder why anyone takes Dawkins seriously on any subject other than biology. Even his critics on Twitter are growing a bit weary.
https://twitter.com/somegreybloke/status/494045464308629505
https://twitter.com/markleggett/status/494044606342782977
https://twitter.com/endorathewitch/status/494071064008597504
Good lord. Look at Dawkins feed. Like every third tweet (or sequence) is something deplorable.
— 🦇VaginoplASCII🦇 (@nataliereed84) July 29, 2014
It seems that no matter what point Richard Dawkins tries to make, he only ever ends up proving that Richard Dawkins is a tosspot.
— Steph. 🏳️⚧️ (@EccentricSteph) July 29, 2014
Seems like it. I’m beginning to wonder why any atheists — at least those who are not also asshats — continue to think of Dawkins as an ally of any kind.
hellkell, that’s just accommodationism writ large!
Aren’t Smarties the tiny sour-ish candies like Sweet-Tarts? Those are good.
The labrys is a symbol of radical feminism. It’s associated strongly with misandry, and I want it so I can piss off the MRAs. I’m mature like that.
(I mean a labrys t-shirt)
OMdog, I have to say this comment section does not include a SUPER SERIOUS discussion of feminism and therefore FEMINISM is proven wrong.
I’m just anticipating future trolls.
Sounds like Whole Foods have mistaken rice for glue.
pallygirl, chocolate covered with candy? Ick.
Monte biscuits are my favourite things at the moment. Plain dark chocolate biscuits, yum.
Apart from Cheddar Shapes, that is. Good of the supermarket to have boxes for $1.30. (Why yes, my pantry is overflowing with them, thank you for asking.)
pallygirl, I love them both. About the only vegetables I can’t stand are peas and lima beans. Way!
Other things that have confused me and that I’ve declared way on recently – chocolate coconut water. Coconut water is fine, though the stuff from Thailand or Taiwan is much better than what you can get at TJs or whatever, and chocolate is great, but chocolate flavored water? WTF?
No, Smarties are… chocolatey… kinda. Hm, has been years since I had those, come to think of it.
I feel the need to mention bon bons at this point.
Chocolate flavored water…sounds kind of like Yoohoo, which I actually like a lot.
Smarties are chocolate with a candy coating. Like M&Ms but with better chocolate and a higher chocolate to coating ratio.
@Ally, did you overlap at all with Manjaw the Mighty? I think she had a labrys.
Good times.
@hellkell: not even fresh peas, from shelling? Don’t ever put me in charge of shelling peas, I eat more than I put into the bowl.
Also, every time I try to get vanilla ice cream and top it with Nutella, I am left profoundly unfulfilled and melancholic. How the fuck am I supposed to make a chocolate sauce out of it???
These are U.S. Smarties: http://www.candyfavorites.com/smarties-candy-roll-wafers-bulk?gclid=COm1q6mr8b8CFWELMgodEEIAxA
I don’t know why MRAs ignore the most important issues – you know, like protesting the creation of chocolate water.
(Okay, I’m thinking of candy as something more elaborate than just the hard-covered chocolates like Smarties and M&Ms, obvs … carry on.)
hellkell, Smarties are just hard-coated milk chocolate. They’ve been here much longer than M&Ms.
@Ally: http://www.topwithcinnamon.com/2012/03/nutella-fudge-sauce.html
US Smarties are good, too. They kind of remind me of medice because of their appearance and texture, though.
I LOVE LIMA BEANS.
:: sends eye beam death rays towards hellkell ::
pallygirl, BLECH NO. If this means way, I’m sorry.
Mmmmm…. cheddar and broccoli, spinach in all its forms, but especially either raw or saag.
*drool*
I learned a while back the Canadian Smarties are not, in fact, the delicious, addictive little tart, chewable candies similar to Sweet-tarts. They are instead a gross knock off of m&ms. They are an abomination unto the Lord. Or, since I’m an athiest, an abomination unto good taste. Since, as an athiest, I am an objective authority on all things.
That last sentence was a topically related snark, in case it didn’t register, since I’m a lurker.
Wow, that thread moved fast…
cloudiah: THIS MEANS WAY! Lima eater.