Ladies, watch out! Men’s Rights Redditor warspite88 is on to you! Your painted faces don’t fool him! Your concealer cannot conceal the truth! He knows your lips aren’t really that red! He knows your eyelids aren’t really that blue!
Yes, that’s right: it’s time for another angry MRA rant explaining to us why women wearing makeup oppresses men, somehow.
In a post with the delightfully over-the-top title “Men’s rights are directly tied to the power of paint and powder. Ill explain,” warspite88 sets forth his theory:
It is my belief that women have become so beautiful through the use of makeup that most women and men are influenced dramatically and view women more as goddess and men as dogs. The power of makeup has helped to fuel a war against men’s basic human rights.
Uh, what?
Lets face it, men are ugly compared to women, right? Many men feel sorry for women or think it is oppressive that so many women wear makeup.
I’m pretty sure most men don’t get angry when a woman puts on lipstick. That’s just you, dude. Well, you and a thousand other MRAs.
Well, if you dig really deep into history and our modern use of makeup, you will see it points to one key element of humanity, Power.
Wait. I thought female power resided in the ass, not the face. Didn’t Warren Farrell write a book about that or something?
Power to attract those you want (or label unwanted attention as harassment as a result of powder power)
Powder power? Is that like miniskirt power? You are Warren Farrell, aren’t you?
Power to influence Power to feel good about yourself (vain or not) Just a few examples
Dude, sorry to interupt your little rant here, but would it kill you to put periods at the end of your sentences?
Makeup is expensive, a huge industry, so money and making others pay for your power is in high demand.
I had no idea the women were so devious. Making men pay for their makeup, which they then use to make men pay for … more makeup. Lather, rinse, repeat. It’s ingenious. At least until the makeup-using manipulator is found dead in her apartment, lipstick tube still in her hand, crushed by the gigantic boxes of makeup she conned poor male suckers into buying for her.
[W]e see it in every day life, in relationship, those trying to get relationships. we see it in business, court rooms, churches, places of power. We see it in schools, young girls even. We see it in the media oh yes those sexy Fox women, wonder why those women were hired? Why they put on so much makeup? Take a guess boys, take a guess white knights. Take a guess MRMs.
You seem a little fixated on the Fox News women.
The power of paint and powder to influence others minds, their reactions, their actions, it is one of the most deeply rooted human aspects of power projection yet few ever take it seriously. The power of makeup to make women beautiful to seduce and control a horny man or a white knight has built kingdoms, it has destroyed kingdoms, it has had major political influence around the world for all of history.
Behold, the most powerful woman in history:
Weird. I feel an almost irresistible urge to buy that woman some more makeup. MUS T RESIST.
There is a reason why most women use makeup, because it gives them power, subtle, acceptable power that few men can ignore.
Women’s sexuality, it is natural and men are pawns to it because men are wired to view women as sexual objects. … So when men see a woman dolled up with makeup more often than not his head falls head over heels with lust (not love) desire (not caring).
His HEAD falls HEAD over HEELS with LUST.
His HEAD.
Let’s just think about this for a second. How does a HEAD fall head over heels? A HEAD DOESN’T HAVE HEELS IT IS JUST A HEAD.
Does it borrow some heels for the occasion? Does it hold the heels in its mouth? So many questions.
The power of beauty and charisma that comes with paint and powder changes the world.
So how is it related to mens rights?
Oh, this oughtta be good.
Go outside, yes leave your computer. Go to any public place and watch people. Watch how men react to women who are dressed sexy or wear more makeup.
Uh, ok. But then I’d have to put on some pants.
Or just watch this stuff on TV.
Yeah, on second thought, let’s not go outside at all. Let’s base our entire knowledge of how men and women interact on old sitcoms and Fox News. You know, the news channel with all those sexy Fox women.
Anyway, so how does this relate to Men’s Rights?
Men are ugly compared to women with paint and powder right? How dare men show attraction to beautiful women, they must be pigs! Right?
Uh, what? Is this your actual argument? Are you actually trying to make some sort of sense? Or are you just typing?
White Knights love beautiful women on the outside , oh yes the white knight shield of justice is like a mirror to reflect the beauty of any female even a woman who murders her husband or rapes a boy.
Wat.
But a white knights sword is dripping with the blood of innocent men who dare even attempt equality with a beautiful woman.
Damn, this got dark, really dark, all of a sudden.
The power of paint and powder, it has affected every one of you reading this at some point in your life. it will again.
Well, not if one of those white knights has stabbed you to death, I mean, yikes! But let’s not get hung up on details.
It is not evil or wrong to wear makeup in my opinion but it is important that we become aware of how much of a paint and powder worshiping society we have become.
Is it any wonder men’s rights and well being have been left far behind in society that craves women and their paint and powder? Just saying.
Just saying?
JUST SAYING?!!
THAT’S how your ending this post?
Dude, your cockamamie thesis is that evil makeup-wearing, husband-murdering, boy-raping women rule the world, while easily manipulated white knights are going around wantonly stabbing any Men’s Rights Activists they can find.
And you end your rant with “just saying?”
Really? I mean, if you’re going to put it out there, fucking put it out there! Commit to it! End with something, you know, dramatic.
“By Grabthar’s hammer, by the suns of Warvan, you shall be avenged!”
You know, something like that. Something cool.
End strong! End big!
Just saying.
Oh, and in case you’re wondering about that Grabthar’s hammer thing:
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I still don’t get how lack of grooming practices makes you inherently deeper. **shrugs** If you’re judging someone who does partake in grooming, aren’t you judging them based on how the present themselves — you know, the way they look? And isn’t this inherently shallow and a lazy way to pass judgement on a person?
I sense a deep schism coming between MRAs oppressed by makeup wearing women and MRAs oppressed by non-makeup wearing women.
@ Shiraz
As long as it doesn’t go from “I reject oppressive grooming practices like shaving every hair-carrying part of my body” to “I reject oppressive grooming practices like brushing my teeth and washing my hair”, I guess.
People who think aggressively stating how little they care about appearances makes them look deep mostly just make me roll my eyes.
Shiraz, I doubt it makes me deeper. It’s just a neurosis I have. I mean I’m writing a novel about someone who’s incapable of lying. That’s no accident.
And yes, it would be a shallow way to judge people, so I try not to do that. Love the groomer, hate the grooming, so to speak.
It’s rare that I say this, but it would be really nice if we could get back on topic.
I probably wouldn’t say “committed to honesty.” Maybe committed to not trimming nose hair or eyebrows, not getting tattoos, not using cologne, etc… Aesthetic honesty is just kind of a ridiculous and arbitrary concept.
How is grooming or makeup lying though? The only difference between me with straight ironed hair and eye shadow and me with natural wavy hair and no eye shadow is the straight hair and eye shadow. It doesn’t change my personality. It’s just that my hair is long right now and gets messy really quickly when I wear it down. Therefore it is easier to just straighten my hair so I don’t have to worry about how it looks all night.
The world-shattering dangers of makeup now explain all those demands for warpaint in World of Warcraft.
(Looking for group; need rouge.)
Funny, I would have thought the feminists that these MRA dweebs despise so much would not endorse any social convention rooted in the belief that women must all look pretty for men. These MRA beta males can’t even make up their puny minds as to whom they stand against.
There’s something remarkably silly about thinking you’re more honest than other people because you don’t brush your hair. I’ve met people like this before, and never relished the experience.
bunnybunny:
Agreed. This is very bizarre. It reminds me of that stupid #LiesToldByFemales hashtag, where loads of misogynists were like WOMEN ARE LYING LIARS BECAUSE OF MAKE-UP AND PUSH-UP BRAS.
Like, how is having a tattoo dishonest exactly? It’s not like I’m trying to convince anyone that I was born with a large owl on my thigh and a Hylian shield on my calf.
Now, granted, I’m a feeeeeeemale, but I have never had any trouble identifying whether or not someone else is wearing makeup. Zero. Like, maybe someone wear mascara without me noticing, and mayyyybe a really good foundation… but makeup is noticeable. That’s kind of the point of wearing it. If it’s noticeable, it can hardly be played off as some kind of manipulative deception.
Yes, you have to be paying more attention to notice the natural looks, but it’s still not that hard to see. E.g. nobody’s lips are naturally shiny.
I really think these guys’ problem is that they spend very little time looking actual, IRL women in the face.
It’s true, I am silly and my ideals are at best impractical to realize. I know that. Like I’ve said, I was trying to make a point to warspite88 about the existence of people who don’t fit in his prejudiced molds. It was maybe thoughtlessly stated, and definitely thoughtless in the context of Dudes Who Stigmatize Women For Wearing Makeup, which in my haste I forgot is a common thing. Sorry about that. Sorry also about getting off topic, but I hope we can close the debate about my dysfunctions with this.
@ tinyorc
Well, I could have said “dumb and pretentious” instead of “silly”, but I was trying to be polite.
Oops, that didn’t last long. But hey, honesty is the most important virtue, right?
I mean, I’m dishonest about my tattoos in that I cover them up at work. And I flip up my septum ring. This could be construed as misandry since I am hiding my dirty feminist-signaling body mods from my coworkers. One of them might accidentally take me seriously.
I think the MRAs have confused makeup with photoshop. A natural mistake, given both of them end with ‘p’.
Some of us keep trying to point out that this problem could be solved by acting like we’re at a goth club and having everyone, regardless of sex, wear makeup, but do they listen? No, they do not.
Really. And heaven forfend that she earn the money to buy those things for herself; then she’s some slutty-ass hoo-er who put a Nice Guy™ out of a job.
These guys have so many contradictory notions about what feminine looks and behavior are “correct” that there is literally no pleasing them, so there’s also no point in trying.
Wasn’t the Bobbi Brown makeup slogan, “Give us 5 minutes. We’ll make you pretty powerful”? Or something like that.
She gave our devious strategies away. Gender traitor!
Men have to wear make up when they’re on stage or set. So if men are wearing makeup they are lying too!?
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@Lea
Your earlier comment used the term “tinfoil fedora wearers” and I think that should totally be our term for this type of MRA ‘conspiracy’ theorist.
@ Emil W
I think the main problem here was that you offered as your first comment what is commonly known here as a “boner update” (for lack of a less anatomical term), which essentially boils down to “I find X attractive/unattractive therefore argument”. There is nothing wrong with finding some particular feature or fashion attractive, but we just don’t use it as a basis for argument or debate position here.
@ Kootiepatra : “I really think these guys’ problem is that they spend very little time looking actual, IRL women in the face.”
Of course they don’t! Why would they risk catching cooties?
Cooties? It’s the mind control rays you have to watch out for.
(They come from the mascara, one ray per eyelash.)
I wonder which is more honest: never cutting/styling your hair (because that’s how it grows naturally) or shaving off all body hair (because it hides your skin and can change the way your head looks).
Clothes are almost certainly dishonest though. Honest people should be nudists. What are they hiding?
Yeah nudism!!
But now, I am conflicted. I should really buy mascara for the mind control rays, cause that would be so cool.