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The Feminists: A story so frighteningly impossible, you won't believe it wasn't collectively written by the Men's Rights subreddit

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A tiny group of gallant men (and “their women”) go underground to fight the evil gynocratic overlords. Is this the plot of a terrible dystopian potboiler from 1971, or a description of how most MRAs see themselves, and the world, today?

Turns out it’s both. I found this pic in the Blue Pill subreddit, and now I really, really want to read this book.

Here’s a book review from someone who did.

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katz
10 years ago

Said tabby is reciting an operatic aria as we speak.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Dear Diary,

I am coming to the realization that I am not a suitable partner for one of the fedorakin, due to my lack of interest in opera, gaming, and being submissive. What is the solution to this problem? Can I be retrained, or is lobotomy the only answer?

Declawing also seem like it may be a necessity due to my instinctive response to being addressed as “milady” while someone’s hand is on my ass.

kittehserf MOD
kittehserf MOD
10 years ago

How’re all the kittens doing, katz?

Declawing also seem like it may be a necessity due to my instinctive response to being addressed as “milady” while someone’s hand is on my ass.

Heheh “my lady” is what Mr K usually calls me, hand on my arse or not. At least with him using a title is just an old habit reasserting itself! 😀

Skye
Skye
10 years ago

Awesome. That’s probably good enough to meet random dudes arbitrary standards for suitable partners ™

katz
10 years ago

How’re all the kittens doing, katz?

Not good. Clem is sick again, Mika lost all the hair on one ear and it hasn’t grown back yet, and Julius refuses to lick his butt (anyone know any solutions to that last one?).

They got kicked out of an adoption event because the coordinator said they made her look bad 🙁

Cloudiam
Cloudiam
10 years ago

Why did that one tumblr guy had to bring Minecraft into this! I love the game, probably far too much for someone my age, and now it has been tainted forever. Although, considering I’ve been reading this site for months and the first time I decide to comment is when I see some guy offend Minecraft might be a sign I should play less of it.

Tessa
Tessa
10 years ago

In this future, woman dominated world, wanting sex is apparently an exclusively man thing. So to get sex, a man must get permission (presumably from the State) “even if the woman is willing.” This suggests a couple things. First, that women don’t actually want sex. Second, the possibility the State will grant sex even if the woman isn’t willing. Maybe a good beta man who supports his feminist masters will get his pick of any woman he wants (that sounds kinda familiar).

Even in a feminazi regime, the women are sexual objects. The oppression of men comes in them needing to get through lots of red tape to gain access to the objects. I guess making men the sex objects to be “taken” by their feminine overlords didn’t cross his mind.

Another thing that bugs me, and it bugs me about the misogyny culture in general, is the part about men only being reduced to procreation, and feminists working to end this “strictly male function.” What is it with needing to be needed? There must be something that requires them. Women can’t or else they won’t need men. I’ve had people tell me that a bad thing about lesbians is that it shows other women that men aren’t needed. Did it ever occur to men that straight and bi women might want them? I don’t particularly need women, but I sure want them around. Personally, I’d rather be wanted than simply there because there’s no other option.

Back on topic, there’s also a teen book called Epitaph Road about a future in which most men were killed by a virus, and so women were “forced to take over control of the planet.” The women keep men oppressed and their numbers low by using the virus as male population control whenever they organize.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Well, in the case of most of the men who make up the various parts of the manosphere, it would seem that women really don’t want them, and that they’ve generalized from that to an assumption that women not wanting men is a universal phenomenon.

pecunium
10 years ago

Of course he reads Adam Smith and thinks that makes him smart

If he’s actually reading Smith, that’s a step up. Smith wasn’t a Libertarian.

So, did anyone else notice the fedorakin mister who claimed “Elliot Rodger is our greatest martyr”?

http://fedoramancer.tumblr.com/image/91950473781

Tessa
Tessa
10 years ago

The part: “Women can’t or else they won’t need men” should read “Women can’t [insert thing only man is allowed to do] or else they won’t need men.” I used the greater thanless than brackets so it got eaten by the html monster.

pecunium
10 years ago

Sorry, I meant to say that I don’t think he’s really reading The Wealth of Nations, just name dropping it because he figures he can get away with it because it’s one of those things people talk about, without reading.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

@pecunium

I almost wondered if that one was a Poe. It can be hard to tell with fedorakin.

(Kittehs will be laughing at me now, since I specifically sent her a video of the guy with the hat, but there’s a special hat-wearing dispensation for men who aren’t creepy assholes.)

Phoenician in a time of Romans
Phoenician in a time of Romans
10 years ago

Adam Smith, eh?

“(…) his (Adam Smith’s) theory of sympathy rejected self-love as the basic motive for behaviour. He also defined virtue as consisting of three elements: propriety, prudence and benevolence. By this he meant propriety or the appropriate control and directing of our affections; prudence or the judicious pursuit of our private interests; and benevolence or the exercise of only those affections that encourage the happiness of others. How poor Adam Smith got stuck with disciples like the market economists and the neo-conservatives is hard to imagine. He is in profound disagreement with their view of society.”

– John Ralston Saul, _The Unconscious Civilization_ (V – From Ideology Towards Equilibrium)

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
10 years ago

@ pecunium – it is very telling that everyone I know who’s quoted Smith at me has quoted from the same two or three passages. Coincidentally, they were the same two or three passages that quoted in my high school economics textbook.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Smith does seem like an odd choice of figure to worship for people as self-indulgent as the fedorakin.

Dire Sloth
Dire Sloth
10 years ago

You see stories like this bandied about the manosphere from time to time. There’s something oddly fetishistic about them. A good example of why you shouldn’t let you fetishes turn into your philosophy, in fact.

Dvärghundspossen
10 years ago

Regarding being woken up by the Furrinati – when my oldest dog was still a pup, he used to whack me on the head with a yellow toy bird until I woke up. Nowadays he’s a late sleeper, but our second oldest dog will wake us with intense kissing on the face when he thinks it’s time to go up.

Dvärghundspossen
10 years ago

It’s weird, though, this obsession with being “needed”. I read an article some time ago by some dude who didn’t seem to be an MRA, but who thought that the fact that science already makes it possible for women to procreate with no men involved, and in the future this might even be easy, raises these “interesting questions”, since then men won’t be needed anymore and yada yada. It’s weird, because you could arbitrarily divide the human species into almost any two groups and truthfully declare that one of these groups aren’t “needed”. Like, blue-eyed people aren’t needed, since the human species would do fine without blue eyes. White people aren’t needed (nor any other particular skin colour). People who are taller than six feet aren’t needed. And so on, and so on.
But what conclusions are we supposed to draw from this? None, as far as I’m concerned.

Dire Sloth
Dire Sloth
10 years ago

My old cat would claw at the bedroom door and howl when she thought I needed to get up. I tried training her out of it, but it was no use – she would happily do so for hours on end. Funny thing is she didn’t want food or anything, I think she was just bored with no one else in the house.

She would also paw at the door to the back porch when she wanted to go outside – even after the porch had been demolished for remodeling. I wonder if she just wanted to take up skydiving?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

None of us as individuals are really needed, from a coldly pragmatic perspective. The world would go on just fine without us. Accepting this fact seems to me to be a fairly fundamental part of adulthood.

amavra
10 years ago

I have commented a few times – mostly lurker – but Katz mentioned kittens who won’t lick their butts. One of my new kittens also refused to clean himself at all really, but his butt was especially nasty, long haired too. Hubs applied olive oil to his butt with a qtip, which makes them feel uncomfortable and clean it off. Gets them used to doing it. Only had to a couple times and he’s much better now. His sister also helped by cleaning him aggressively a few times :). I like kittens, much more than bizarro world MRA wank fantasies.

Dvärghundspossen
10 years ago

Exactly. I guess this also ties in to people who are against abortion and go like “I’m glad my mum didn’t have an abortion, because then I wouldn’t exist”. Um, yeah, if she’d had an abortion when she was pregnant with that particular fetus then you wouldn’t exist, and you would be none the worse for not existing – not existing means precisely that, not that you’d sit around moping in some astral world, looking down at Earth and going “whyyy did you have to have that abortion, whyyyy couldn’t I have been born instead of being stuck here?”. And the world at large would have been fine without you.

Dvärghundspossen
10 years ago

The above response was to Cassandra. 🙂

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I just can’t get inside the heads of people who’re self-centered enough to do the whole “what if precious special me had never been born? what if the world didn’t need me?” thing. They’re like aliens, I can’t figure out how to communicate with them, and something about them makes me really uncomfortable.

kittehserf MOD
kittehserf MOD
10 years ago

Not good. Clem is sick again, Mika lost all the hair on one ear and it hasn’t grown back yet, and Julius refuses to lick his butt (anyone know any solutions to that last one?).

Damn, that sucks.

I can only suggest wiping Julius’ butt with a damp tissue or something – that seems to stimulate them to wash, sometimes, at least. If nothing else, it should clean him a little. I have to do it for our two on occasion. (I suspect Fribs thinks “I’m not licking that! She’ll clean if for me if I ignore it long enough.”)

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