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The gender and racial makeovers of Thor and Captain America rustle jimmies at The Spearhead and Chateau Heartiste

Captain America and the guy who'll be taking over his job
Captain America and the guy who’ll be taking over his job

So it turns out that Red Pill Redditors aren’t the only ones in a tizzy about Marvel comics’ plan to replace Thor (the superhero, not the actual Norse god, all praise him) with a woman. All over the manosphere, jimmies are rustling at the news.

The proudly racist, woman-hating pickup artist guru known as Heartiste is not only outraged by the “gelding” of Thor but also, and even more vehemently, by Marvel’s decision to make Captain America black, which he bizarrely describes as a kind of racial cuckolding:

Liberals are gloating over the recent editorial choices to geld Thor and race cuck Captain America. The former will become Whor, the female Thor, and the latter will become Captain Gibsmedat, the numinous negro who saves the right kinds of white people from the wrong kinds of white people.

“Gibsmedat” – I had to look it up – is a term that ridiculous racists like to use to describe welfare checks and other “goods, services, or material … given predominately to minorities, in exchange for their tacit agreement to reciprocate by not burning down America’s cities.” It’s short, you see, for “gibs me dat.”

Hilarious, huh? The term seems to be especially popular on Chimpmania.com, a site so ludicrously racist it makes Stormfront look tame.

Heartiste continues, lashing out at a “fat white liberal quasi-male named Devin Faraci” for publicly supporting Marvel’s decision to (at least temporarily) give the Captain America costume to The Falcon, another public-spirited superhero who happens to be black:

The fat white liberal face is archetypal. These race traitors all have a “look”, don’t they? Genetics, perhaps, or just a lifetime spent wiping orange Cheetostaches off their porcine mugs. Look at that faggot. He could double as an old lesbian halfway through her hormonal replacement therapy. If ever a face looked as if it was born to have a fist buried in it, Faraci has it.

Homoophia, racism, misogyny, fat-shaming, then back to homophobia before ending with a fantasy of violence. Charming, huh?

Faraci, for his part, has taken that last bit about facepunching  in stride, adopting it as his Twitter bio.

Oh, but Heartiste isn’t done yet: he then goes on to accuse Faraci – on the basis of precisely no evidence – of hypocritically living in a neighborhood devoid of “the minorities he jerks off to.”

The anti-white liberal white male is the most loathsome of creatures. More despicable than the minorities he jerks off to, because he fulminates a credo at 180 degree odds with his chosen lifestyle for status whoring feels. Hypocritical, smug, and you just know the first to run from a fight, gathering his skirt up and shrieking like a little girl.

I wonder about the demographics of this pigman’s neighborhood? Anyone care to investigate? I might put up a post in future called “The Leftoid List”, with the names of infamous anti-white leftoid equalist turds juxtaposed with the race demographics of their immediate neighborhoods. Should be illuminating.

That would be illuminating. Not about the “Leftoids” in question, but about the fellow who calls himself Heartiste.

The comments to Heartiste’s article are, of course, appalling, filled with rants about “homos and … leftards” and “social justice fags.” They hit all the “alt right” talking points, from homophobia to racism.

They even manage to evoke the far right’s all-time favorite villain: The Jew. One commenter announces that he

did some half-hearted googling about “Faraci” to see whether his mother had been a jewess or maybe whether he had changed his jew birthname to a more WOP-sounding name when he joined the Film Actors Guild … .

And then there’s this exchange:

Bill  What a lardass scumbag. I don’t go to those movies but lots of impressionable people do, both in the US as well as abroad. The lefties who dominate the entertainment industry are on a crusade to insert black hero type characters into every film, even if it means switching an existing character’s race from white to black. If an immigrant from an out of the way place arrived here and watched tv and movies he would think all blacks are honest judges, compassionate doctors, and wise presidents and half the white people were criminals.      on July 18, 2014 at 2:57 pm | Reply Hilary Clinton      “lefties” is speld J-E-

(I’m pretty sure that is not the actual Hillary Clinton commenting.)

Meanwhile, another commenter claims that this “anti-White Kulturkampf [is] part of the greatest gencoide ever perpetrated.”

That’s right: Heartiste’s neo-Nazi fanboys think there’s a Nazi-style genocide being perpetuated against them.

Not that they’re particularly shy about advocating violence themselves. One long-time commenter writes:

Laguna Beach Fogey  That fat white liberal head would look awesome stuck on a pike outside the Chateau’s walls.

Meanwhile, another commenter posts the address and telephone number of a guy named Farci living in California; another gently points outit’s up to someone who calls himself Ted Cunterblast to point out that he’s gotten the guy’s name wrong. Yes, that’s right: among Heartiste’s followers, it’s Ted Cunterblast who serves as the closest thing to a voice of reason.

But it’s not just Heartiste and his horde who are angry about white male superheros becoming something other than white or male.

Over on the also-ran Men’s Rights hub The Spearhead, W.F. Price takes a few minutes out from tending to the new baby in the household to bash out some ill-formed thoughts on what he calls “Trans Thor.”

I’m not sure whether this is an attempt to grab some publicity or a true appeal to feminists/transsexuals, but it’s a risky move in the long-term. While adults might tolerate the switch as an amusing diversion, comics are fundamentally children’s literature. …

So I wonder whether this new storyline is intended for an adult audience, and if so, whether it’s a signal that Marvel either doesn’t care about the base market for comics, or has already been surpassed by other companies that appeal better to boys and has decided to give up. …

And if Marvel thinks it can make up for the loss of interest in boys by picking up girls, it’s time to think again. Normal girls (as opposed to future feminists) far prefer feminine characters doing ladylike things — not dominatrix types holding giant hammers. …

Finally, adult women who like Thor will not be all that happy about this. Thor’s main appeal to women is as a Nordic hunk. It’s hard to overstate the appeal of manly warriors with flowing blond hair — especially to white women. Changing Thor into a woman is going to seriously anger some of these female fans; perhaps even more than the men.

The commenters on The Spearhead, as usual, manage to outdo Price in their bigotry and ridiculousness.

One commenter claims that

This is just another variation on “piss Christ.” Changing a European mythical figure into a woman is meant to humiliate.

Spearhead regular Uncle Elmer suggests that switching Thor’s gender is designed to appeal to actual feminist Nazis:

Himmler was fascinated by Teutonic myths and named his daughter after some Germanic heroine. He was also obsessed with pre-Christian witch cults and blamed the church for mass murder of thousands of witches during the middle ages.

So it fits that making Thor a woman is a move to placate Femi-Nazis.

Meanwhile, Nemo suggests that the gender-switchers are more like old-school Stalinists:

This trend of replacing/murdering/transgendering/etc. white heterosexual male characters reminds me of the Soviet Union’s airbrushing of Politburo members who had fallen out of favor with Stalin.  A newly declared “unperson” such as Trotsky who had been photographed with Lenin would be turned into a wall or a tree in the old photos . The Party would “re-imagine” history in a manner that made it conform with current doctrine.  http://www.tc.umn.edu/~hick0088/classes/csci_2101/false.html  The link above notes that women are willing to use the same technique to remove old boyfriends and ex-husbands from family photos.  The parallels between communism and feminism are no longer being downplayed or suppressed by the MSM. Why bother? It’s now considered to be perfectly normal to distort reality or fiction or anything else for political motives.  Anyone who objects to the airbrushing of the past is now the bad guy.  How long will it be before they start sending thugs with icepicks after real men instead of just killing comic book characters?

I don’t know, dude. Probably never? It’s not feminists who are suggesting that a punch in the face – or a beheading – is the proper response to a comic book character getting a gender or racial makeover.

 

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Unimaginative
Unimaginative
10 years ago

“What is that symbol on Foreskin Man’s chest supposed to be?”

A foreskin.

See, I assumed that’s what it was meant to be, but I just couldn’t see how it could be. So I had to google foreskin images. God, I wish I hadn’t done that.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

“Monster Mohel?” Really? And the turkey who created that doesn’t think it’s anti-semetic? Wow.

I’m gonna a drink after encountering Foreskin Man.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

@LBT,

I just checked out Manly Guys doing Manly Things and saw the one about yoga, and remembered all the weird crap we used to pull at recess. Two words: synchronized backflips.

If they build an adult-size playground, I might actually get some exercise, honestly, but the gym equipment is just badly sized (I’m short) and intimidating.

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
10 years ago

Because there are some VERY STRANGE THINGS that may or may not be related to foreskins, penises in general, some types of kink, and various diseases that showed up during that search. Not because I object to foreskins.

BreakfastMan
BreakfastMan
10 years ago

Good ol’ Faraci. One of his greatest skills is his ability to piss the hell out of bigots (you should see his endless scraps with Adam Baldwin, they are great fun). One of the reasons I frequent his site Badass Digest, in addition the other excellent writers like Film Critic Hulk (I highly recommend the site, one of the best, most progressive film sites on the web with an absolutely fantastic community that takes no shit from bigots). Does my heart good to see the MRA all up in a tither over this, as well. 😀

BigMomma
BigMomma
10 years ago

er, no fucks given by me and Thor was one of my favourites when I read my brother’s Marvel compendium when I was 10.

Ally S
10 years ago

I’m not sure whether this is an attempt to grab some publicity or a true appeal to feminists/transsexuals, but it’s a risky move in the long-term. While adults might tolerate the switch as an amusing diversion, comics are fundamentally children’s literature. …

Those evil tr*nnies telling children about the existence of transness. How dare they encourage kids to not associate genders with bodies! /sarcasm

Sir Bodsworth Ruggleby III
Sir Bodsworth Ruggleby III
10 years ago

Anti Semites love Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Go figure.

Robert
Robert
10 years ago

LBT, the . . . person behind Foreskin Man did another installment in which FM* does battle with a scalpel-happy pediatrician. Apparently, he has broader horizons beyond anti-Semitism, although they are all foreskin-related. He must be a treat to have lunch with.
“These onion rings are good.”
“Yes, almost as good as an INTACT PREPUCE!”

*Does whatever a foreskin can.

aebars
10 years ago

Sweet zombie motherfucking Jesus H. tapdancing Christ… it sickens me, frankly, to know that I breathe the same air as these people. I mean, WHERE THE FUCK DO THEY EVEN COME FROM, ANYWAY?!?! WHAT IS THEIR ORIGIN?!?! IT’S SCARY!!!!!!!!

The next time AVFM hosts a conference, what feminists ought to do is picket it brandishing signs bearing quotes like this, plus web addresses, from websites like Chateau Heartiste, CoAlpha Brotherhood, Loveshy.com, Matt Forney, Return of Kings, thatincelblogger and Vox Populi.

That’ll have the double-effect, I expect, of ensuring Clinton’s victory.

Aunt Edna
Aunt Edna
10 years ago

OT: Dalrock has done it again, slut-shamed and web-lynched another female blogger:
http://rooshnme.blogspot.com/2014/07/dalrock-is-not-mra.html

(I’m linking to Cinzia’s blog, above, rather than directly to D’s.)

J.J
J.J
10 years ago

Uh, my response to new Thor? OMG COOL/HOT. And I’m not really even into comics. (Though Arkham Asylum was the most awesome to awesome.) And isn’t female Thor going to be a new character anyway? It’s not like Thor just became a woman for no reason and they’re just running with that. But that would be cool too, so who cares? OH WAIT I FORGOT BEING A WOMAN IS BAD. Why is this even an issue, it’s not like pretty much every other prominent comic book character isn’t still a white dude. OH SHIT NOT EVERYTHING IN THE ENTIRETY OF SOCIETY LOOKS LIKE ME I MUST WHINE.

I love how when a character used to be not-white, it’s like ‘it’s not important/color blind casting/blah blah blah everyone is white. Then when it’s the other way around: EW NO BLACK PEOPLE. It makes me remember when Blaize Zabini turned out to be black but was otherwise identical to his fanon identity. Or when Rue was cast with a black actress. When she was described as dark skinned in the books anyway. And people were complaining.

…okay, dog fostering kittens helps. Aw. *wants love from dog but he is snoring on the couch*

LBT
LBT
10 years ago

RE: Unimaginative

See, I assumed that’s what it was meant to be, but I just couldn’t see how it could be.

Yeah, it’s supposed to be a cross section of the glans with the foreskin coming up over it.

RE: wordsp1nner

If they build an adult-size playground, I might actually get some exercise

My younger sibling often talks about how much zie would love to have an adult-size playground. Alas.

RE: Robert

I have now read the whole ouevre of Foreskin Man. Out of six issues, only two deal with white circumcisers: the eeeevil makeup company who relies on constant shipments of babyskin, and the eeeevil doctor. The other four dealt with, in order: Jews, Africans, Muslims, and Filipinos. So yes, the creator does a lot more than just Anti-Semetism!

R. A. Stark
10 years ago

“Homoophia, racism, misogyny, fat-shaming, then back to homophobia before ending with a fantasy of violence. Charming, huh?”

There’s a typo and I’d encourage you to mention add transphobia to the list!

Also…wowza at his whole tirade!

aqilaqamar
aqilaqamar
10 years ago

Reblogged this on Iconography ♠ Incomplete and commented:
The persistence of male superheroes and the persistence of chauvinistic attitudes in superhero lore actually demands the question: is it very critical, analytical and emotive to exclude the other sex as a hero figure? What is so taken as wrong as a woman hero? Woman and men are their own individuals and it is a shame to just typify them as romances

Phoenician in a time of Romans
Phoenician in a time of Romans
10 years ago

Just… just let that sink in for a bit. Foreskin Man vs. Monster Mohel.

On the other hand Tur-mohel and his Minyan was pretty funny

chimisaur
chimisaur
10 years ago

O human star and manly guy are great! I’m quite fond of Godseeker (http://girlamatic.com/godseeker/) too, so that’s my suggestion; neat female characters, pretty art, and a historical setting I have not really read anything else in, so it’s got some novelty points there.

Foreskin man…I just can’t. *sigh*

About the kitten fostering video: I’m glad to see my dog’s not alone, although she doesn’t have the excuse of hormones or a puppy litter, as she’s fixed, and I’m not sure her adopting our kitten is a maternal kindness like the dog in the video so much as Dogzilla lacking much logical follow-through. We brought the kitten home one morning, it climbed on her sleeping dog self, and she seemed to go “Oh, I had a puppy! Weird! He smells funny – oh well time to lick its butt!” and then picked him up and carried the very confused kitten to her crate for bath time.

Shadow
Shadow
10 years ago

Isn’t Ted Cunterblast the name of an author from a Fry and Laurie sketch? Keep your curmudgeonly hands off my media dickwads!!!

@Aunt Edna

That is horrible, and yet completely unsurprising. However, please refrain from using “lynching” to describe something like this, it’s really quite dismissive of a horrific practice

Shadow
Shadow
10 years ago

Re: comics

I still remember going from my Saturday morning cartoons to my first three comics:
The issue of Steel when he’s being framed by a serial killer
Lobo – nuff said
A rather bloody issue of Captain America

Child friendly they were not

chimisaur
chimisaur
10 years ago

Yeah, I think my first real encounter with comics was Sandman. Very neat, but certainly not kiddie stuff – I was a high-schooler at the time and it was still a bit of a content shock.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

When he started banging on about comics being for kids my first thought was, how old is he? If he was 80 or so that attitude might make sense. Then again a lot of these guys read as Timewarp Man to me.

thebobgoblin
10 years ago

I guess only Marvel Comics are for alphas, since none of them seem outraged by (or, for that matter, to have even noticed) the gay Green Lantern, the Latina Hawkwoman, and the black Superman already being published by DC in the pages of its hit comic EARTH-2.

And the only thing that puzzles me about the female Thor is her name. Cuz, see, “Thor” is Thor’s actual name, not some title or something. It’s true, whoever wields Mjolnir bears “the power of Thor,” but I don’t think they get a name change in the process. It’ll be interesting to see how Marvel explains this minor quibble, if at all.

Shadow
Shadow
10 years ago

@chimisaur

Right? I’m not a Thor fan, and the only issues I’ve read are those from the Civil War and the Secret Invasion arcs (so they were particularly dark), but even the most child friendly Marvel and DC heroes I can think of, Spiderman and Superman, I can rattle off so many arcs that are not kid-friendly at all, and I’m a pretty casual comics fan compared to most

@Cassandra

Well, it is WTF Price, the man was born a grumpy old man

BreakfastMan
BreakfastMan
10 years ago

@cassandrakitty: I do wonder how he would react to comics like The Boys, Preacher, Sandman, Transmetropolitan, or even DMZ. Hell, I wonder how he would react if he read certain stories about famous superheroes, like The Long Halloween. XD

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Himmler was fascinated by Teutonic myths and named his daughter after some Germanic heroine. He was also obsessed with pre-Christian witch cults and blamed the church for mass murder of thousands of witches during the middle ages.

I’m loathe to agree with Himmler and all, but does Uncle Elmer not realize that this is factually true? Yes, dumbass. Thousands of women (and some men too) were in fact burned as witches during the European witch trials. Why do these guys fail basic history every damn time?