(I feel bad leaving the first comment here because it de-rails the carry-over from the last conversation, but here is my first official Hi There! I live in Londinium with four furrinati overlords who think it is ok to vomit on my things and sit in my pasta occasionally. They don’t actually belong to me, but that’s a story for another time…)
I’ve been working through some rough stuff mentally lately, so I’m thrilled to have some good news! Some of my relapse prevention pocket zines are going to be used at a mental clinic here in Ohio! 😀 They’ve bought limited print rights for both, so that means money for me (yay) and that my work will be going directly to the folks who need it most. (YAY!)
@LBT That’s awesome! Both for the money and for the using art to help.
Is doing a hi there post expected? Should I have done one already?
contrapangloss
10 years ago
Introductory posts are not required, but they’re okay. It was nice to see you over on the other post, and introducing yourself by joining in on discussions without introduction is perfectly legit, pendraegon!
THAT IS AWESOME! Money and helping out at the same time is a double bonus. I’m smiling huge over here for you! 🙂
Also, excited interweb hugs, if you like them!
WatermelonSugar
10 years ago
@LBT–
Yay! That is great. I remember you mentioning something about that threads ago and never followed up. Glad to hear that was positive!
Also, a note on me sucking at following up on threads–
I’m majorly ADHD and if I miss something you want to ask me/need me for on an older thread, feel free to find me in a more current thread and drag me back. It’s not that I don’t want to respond, it’s just that my brains moves at approximately 838494 miles an hour and I forget things.
Just @WatermelonSugar me and drag me back.
Flying Mouse
10 years ago
Congratulations, LBT!
Welcome to pendraegon and saphy 🙂
pendraegon
10 years ago
Oh good that makes me feel better, I always about starting posting somewhere new and making a poor first impression cause I violated local customs and etiquette.
And the welcome package was lovely, though I may have to exchange the kitty. My guinea pigs are part of the Bilderpiggie Group and they’ve always clashed with the Furrinati. 🙂
WTF with that Malaysian airplane being shot down. Those poor people. Their poor families.
WatermelonSugar
10 years ago
Ok. This is kind of personal and kind of on topic for this blog. I don’t post anywhere else on the Internet, so I am turning to you folks.
There is another AVFM-sponsored grumpathon coming up in the fall at a university in Georgia, and it is supposed to be focusing on educating for men and boys. While that is something that is valid and needs to be discussed, I think we all know how MRA-affiliated conferences end up, which is to say badly and not actually addressing any topic other than bashing women.
There is nothing official on the university’s website, but there is a fund raiser on AVFM asking for an absurd amount of money to host Elam, GWW and others of that ilk.
On a personal level, I don’t want that kind of negative energy and hate anywhere close to where I live. On a good-human level, I am concerned for the university and the students there. I doubt the university has any idea of what AVFM is or the history of AVFM-affiliated acedemic ventures ending with protesters being doxxed, shamed and otherwise harassed.
What, if anything, can I do?
I was considering writing a letter to the university expressing my concern, but I am not sure it will be taken seriously, as I am not a current student there. Is there a peaceful way to make my voice heard?
pallygirl
10 years ago
Welcome!
@LBT: congratulations. I love your art work, and income is always good.
@WatermelonSugar: is there is woman’s group at the university? All the universities I know in NZ (sample size = 7) have them. I would contact them in the first instance and give them a head’s up. I think some type of body for helping students is the best place to contact.
pendraegon
10 years ago
@WatermelonSugar The letter writing is probably your best bet I’d think. Contacting local media with information about the generally vile nature of AVFM could be a strategy as well especially if you know anyone else who’d share your concerns. The more people who speak up and write in the better.
Making the school aware of AVfM’s track record of violent and bigoted “satirical” statements seems like a good idea. And then suggest that they invite some of the legions of activists/educators who actually help men and boys, rather than these “satirists.”
Thanks for the congrats, guys! It’s only $50 for me (they’re a tight strapped clinic, and so they’re getting my cheapest stuff) but still! $50 is $50! And hopefully it’ll be a start of a more longrunning relationship!
pallygirl
10 years ago
@WWTH: it’s a Skinner box for guinea pigs. 🙂 Do they let people brush them, because those little critters are so fluffy they look like they need combing to keep their coats from matting?
pendraegon
10 years ago
Those two are painfully adorable, we just got a third one here and the older two are powerfully confused by how much energy he has.
My main concern is that MRM-affiliated conferences usually result in at least one specific protester being singled out and tormented for weeks, months or years. The idea of this continuing bothers me to no end.
My other concern is that AVFM has a history of dragging conference type things through the muck–see the Double Tree and all the journalists reporting on ICMI14.
AVFM has a track record of making academic ventures like this just…horrible. And this one is in my back yard.
It’s just a box-cutter wielding, fire alarm pulling crap-a-thon in the making. It’s beyond clear that this conference will not address education for men, but rather oppression of women.
Elam has already said he will be talking about the “rape hysteria crisis” or some garbage.
Beside that, the guy whose group is hosting it is…at the risk of “creep shaming,” really creepy. He is down with doxxing, has some really Roger-esque ideas about sexual politics and thinks street harassment is a compliment.
@chimisaur, That is a cute fluffy ginger kitty. And your dog appears to have found a new overlord as well.
Welcome, gilshalos! Please pick up your welcome package at the link shared by contrapangloss above!
chimisaur
10 years ago
@Watermelonsugar – wait, which university in GA? I’ve worked for two, and have personal ties with admin at others and would like to help alert the folks in charge. I haven’t heard of this conference, but depending on the university this does have the potential to be very unsafe for students. GA tech in particular is a powder keg when it comes to gender issues. I won’t let you know which one I’m at, so don’t worry about it, but if you can point out which university so I know which one to avoid if I can that would be super-helpful.
We Hunted The Mammoth
(I feel bad leaving the first comment here because it de-rails the carry-over from the last conversation, but here is my first official Hi There! I live in Londinium with four furrinati overlords who think it is ok to vomit on my things and sit in my pasta occasionally. They don’t actually belong to me, but that’s a story for another time…)
I’ve been working through some rough stuff mentally lately, so I’m thrilled to have some good news! Some of my relapse prevention pocket zines are going to be used at a mental clinic here in Ohio! 😀 They’ve bought limited print rights for both, so that means money for me (yay) and that my work will be going directly to the folks who need it most. (YAY!)
So I’m just really happy.
@LBT
Congrats!
@LBT That’s awesome! Both for the money and for the using art to help.
Is doing a hi there post expected? Should I have done one already?
Introductory posts are not required, but they’re okay. It was nice to see you over on the other post, and introducing yourself by joining in on discussions without introduction is perfectly legit, pendraegon!
Also, nice to meet you, Saphy!
Did either of you get your Welcome Package yet?
@LBT
THAT IS AWESOME! Money and helping out at the same time is a double bonus. I’m smiling huge over here for you! 🙂
Also, excited interweb hugs, if you like them!
@LBT–
Yay! That is great. I remember you mentioning something about that threads ago and never followed up. Glad to hear that was positive!
Also, a note on me sucking at following up on threads–
I’m majorly ADHD and if I miss something you want to ask me/need me for on an older thread, feel free to find me in a more current thread and drag me back. It’s not that I don’t want to respond, it’s just that my brains moves at approximately 838494 miles an hour and I forget things.
Just @WatermelonSugar me and drag me back.
Congratulations, LBT!
Welcome to pendraegon and saphy 🙂
Oh good that makes me feel better, I always about starting posting somewhere new and making a poor first impression cause I violated local customs and etiquette.
And the welcome package was lovely, though I may have to exchange the kitty. My guinea pigs are part of the Bilderpiggie Group and they’ve always clashed with the Furrinati. 🙂
Welcome to the new (newish?) folks!
Congrats LBT!
[Content note: violence]
WTF with that Malaysian airplane being shot down. Those poor people. Their poor families.
Ok. This is kind of personal and kind of on topic for this blog. I don’t post anywhere else on the Internet, so I am turning to you folks.
There is another AVFM-sponsored grumpathon coming up in the fall at a university in Georgia, and it is supposed to be focusing on educating for men and boys. While that is something that is valid and needs to be discussed, I think we all know how MRA-affiliated conferences end up, which is to say badly and not actually addressing any topic other than bashing women.
There is nothing official on the university’s website, but there is a fund raiser on AVFM asking for an absurd amount of money to host Elam, GWW and others of that ilk.
On a personal level, I don’t want that kind of negative energy and hate anywhere close to where I live. On a good-human level, I am concerned for the university and the students there. I doubt the university has any idea of what AVFM is or the history of AVFM-affiliated acedemic ventures ending with protesters being doxxed, shamed and otherwise harassed.
What, if anything, can I do?
I was considering writing a letter to the university expressing my concern, but I am not sure it will be taken seriously, as I am not a current student there. Is there a peaceful way to make my voice heard?
Welcome!
@LBT: congratulations. I love your art work, and income is always good.
@WatermelonSugar: is there is woman’s group at the university? All the universities I know in NZ (sample size = 7) have them. I would contact them in the first instance and give them a head’s up. I think some type of body for helping students is the best place to contact.
@WatermelonSugar The letter writing is probably your best bet I’d think. Contacting local media with information about the generally vile nature of AVFM could be a strategy as well especially if you know anyone else who’d share your concerns. The more people who speak up and write in the better.
I would say guinea pigs are part of the furrinati.
They have talents of their own
Making the school aware of AVfM’s track record of
violent and bigoted“satirical” statements seems like a good idea. And then suggest that they invite some of the legions of activists/educators who actually help men and boys, rather than these “satirists.”Thanks for the congrats, guys! It’s only $50 for me (they’re a tight strapped clinic, and so they’re getting my cheapest stuff) but still! $50 is $50! And hopefully it’ll be a start of a more longrunning relationship!
@WWTH: it’s a Skinner box for guinea pigs. 🙂 Do they let people brush them, because those little critters are so fluffy they look like they need combing to keep their coats from matting?
Those two are painfully adorable, we just got a third one here and the older two are powerfully confused by how much energy he has.
And now for something completely different, Bergere de France has their new catalogue out: http://www.bergeredefrance.com/customer/account/create?utm_source=homebuttons
They send these free, to anywhere in the world.
Thanks for the advice so far, y’all.
My main concern is that MRM-affiliated conferences usually result in at least one specific protester being singled out and tormented for weeks, months or years. The idea of this continuing bothers me to no end.
My other concern is that AVFM has a history of dragging conference type things through the muck–see the Double Tree and all the journalists reporting on ICMI14.
AVFM has a track record of making academic ventures like this just…horrible. And this one is in my back yard.
It’s just a box-cutter wielding, fire alarm pulling crap-a-thon in the making. It’s beyond clear that this conference will not address education for men, but rather oppression of women.
Elam has already said he will be talking about the “rape hysteria crisis” or some garbage.
Beside that, the guy whose group is hosting it is…at the risk of “creep shaming,” really creepy. He is down with doxxing, has some really Roger-esque ideas about sexual politics and thinks street harassment is a compliment.
I second everyone else who’s congratulated LBT! 😀
CONGRATS, LBT!
Also, guys! Guys! Hey guys! Guess what’s on my shoulder right now?
NEW KITTY! 😀
https://drive.google.com/?tab=mo&authuser=0#folders/0B323s_M8uRoMSDgyNkdBbTUydm8
You should all love my new overlord, because he is fluffy. At least, that’s what he has to say on the matter.
Woohoo! Yay for LBT!
Yay for LBT!
I don’t think I introduced myself either. I’m in Scotland and regretfully am without a furrinati overlord.
@chimisaur, That is a cute fluffy ginger kitty. And your dog appears to have found a new overlord as well.
Welcome, gilshalos! Please pick up your welcome package at the link shared by contrapangloss above!
@Watermelonsugar – wait, which university in GA? I’ve worked for two, and have personal ties with admin at others and would like to help alert the folks in charge. I haven’t heard of this conference, but depending on the university this does have the potential to be very unsafe for students. GA tech in particular is a powder keg when it comes to gender issues. I won’t let you know which one I’m at, so don’t worry about it, but if you can point out which university so I know which one to avoid if I can that would be super-helpful.