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Red Pillers: Making Thor a feeemale will accelerate our society's plunge "down the rabbit hole of feminization."

Thor and fellow Norse gods prepare for battle.
Thor, Captain America and other Norse gods prepare for battle.

Huh. So Thor — you know, that dude in the comic books based extremely loosely on Norse mythology — is going to be replaced by a woman. No, for reals. Marvel comics announced it  on The View. No, that’s for real  too.

I wonder what the alpha dogs over in the Red Pill subreddit might think of this?

This has to be a joke. Is our society seriously going to continue plunging down the rabbit hole of feminization by shifting the balance between men and women?  Answer: Yes!  YOU GO GRRLLLLLLL.  By the time they are done men will be whining, effeminate little boys, lesbianism will be legally required, and vaginal intercourse will be outlawed as patriarchal rape.  The only penetration women will get will be from their magic hammer. At least the concept would make an interesting porno-movie. I can't think of any other use for it except as a flagrant in your face move. Somebody once said the purpose of political propaganda is to humiliate rather than to actually persuade and this fits it completely.  I guess it's better than having a gay relationship between Thor and Tony Stark but still.....

Huh. I figured they probably would hate it, but not “yet another step down the slippery rabbit hole of feminization that leads inevitably to mandatory lesbianism and the outlawing of PIV sex” hate it.

Let’s see if we can find some more nuanced takes on it. Hey, here’s a comment that starts off, well, calm at least:

Invalidity 4 points 10 hours ago (?|?)  Don't misinterpret the message: This is absolutely not similar to how advertisers and politicians cater to women. In those fields, they cater to women because it benefits their purposes (monetary and politically).  This adoption of a female character to replace an existing male character is much similar to Engineering companies making a push to inject a feminine essence that is missing from those areas. But this benefits them in no particular way. These areas are void of women and females because they are unpopular with female genders altogether. The males in these fields are trying so desperately to bring them one step closer to females, but they fail miserably because they failed the test presented to them.Wait, “women and females?”

How about this one? This dude starts off by not blaming feminism.

n4cer126 1 point 9 hours ago (?|?)  This has nothing to do with feminism whatsoever this time, this is an example of omega male supplication at it's ugliest. The creative types at Marvel are unable to think of any other way to appeal to women in their personal lives so they perform this act of creative castration. This is little different than those schmucks who put together these grandiose public marriage proposals, it reeks of insecurity.  If the universe is in any way just this will crash & burn & teach these losers a lesson

Ah, I should have seen that coming. Everything that’s not the fault of feminism is always the fault of omega dudes trying to get laid.

Woah, I can’t believe my eyes! A commenter is actually suggesting that some of the other Red Pillers might be giving off the impression that they hate women. Oh, he got downvoted.

PenguinWorld -8 points 10 hours ago (?|?)  We don't hate women, it just really seems like we do      permalink     save     give gold  [–]HalfwySandwch 8 points 10 hours ago (?|?)  How is this woman hating?  It would be just as ridiculous if Wonder Woman was a dude.      permalink     save     parent     give gold  [–]lexsird 1 point 8 hours ago (?|?)  How would that play out? Wonder Man? Wonder Dude? Wonder Man, prince from the Amazonian kingdom...wait...can't have that. Wonder Man from ...what? Prince from the male dominate kingdom of ...about any kingdom ever. Shit, that would piss of the feminazis, so beta-bois aren't going to do that.      permalink     save     parent     give gold  [–]HalfwySandwch 1 point 8 hours ago (?|?)  Still called Wonder Woman... either a Trans chick to dude, who keeps the moniker. Or a non-transitioning trans dude to chick, who calls hemself Wonder Woman.

That got ugly in a hurry. I did not see the transphobia coming.

This guy, meanwhile, thinks the only haters here are the man-haters who think it’s ok to make the God of Thunder a girl.

mordanus 1 point 9 hours ago (?|?)  This is more of a man hating issue. People see a masculine role model and say "Hey let's make that a girl instead." You think that the strongest of the norse gods is fine being a female? You think that taking a male's defining attribute (strength) and throwing that to females instead is cool? Yeah not man hating at all...

Seriously. I mean, it’s one thing to make Thor a young doctor named Donald Blake. That’s fine. Or have him put on tights and a cape and  join up with an assortment of superheroes to fight the forces of evil in this and I don’t know how many other comic book universes as well as in a couple of films. But make him a female? Clearly that strains credulity.

The Red Pillers demand utter realism in their comic books involving Norse gods in tights.

Note: Thanks to Reddit’s own ShitRaditzSays for pointing out this lovely Red Pill discussion.

 

 

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Viscaria
Viscaria
10 years ago

The defining male trait is strength, so I guess fuck you, men who can’t participate in tractor pulls. You don’t get to be part of the club anymore.

Xen
Xen
10 years ago

But comics do this ALL the time! I guess they don’t get it. Heck, can we forget that Loki was once a woman? What about the alternate timeline in which Tony Stark was a female?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I literally LOLed at the bit about the hammer. Oh, honey, that’s not a good shape for a dildo. The fact that you don’t know this may explain why you’re having so little luck with the ladies.

taitaisanchez
10 years ago

The world didn’t go to shit when Captain Marvel became a woman. So…

Sassy Owl
Sassy Owl
10 years ago

Ugh, I hate when these assholes try to engage in gender policing by insisting that strength is “the defining male attribute.” I think there’s more to being a man than being an emotionless sack of muscles, Jesus.

Luzbelitx
10 years ago

Well done, Marvel! Now go create the ultimate villian for MRAs: Self-Awarenathon!!

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

We already have the scariest supervillain that any MRA could ever imagine – Hothead Paisan.

Hyena Girl
10 years ago

I guess they’re not aware of this….

The events of the Thrymskvitha, a comedic poem starring Thor and Loki, Thor wakes up one morning and finds that Mjölnir has been stolen while he was sleeping. Eventually, Thor and Loki figure out that the hammer has was taken by Thrymr the giant (no explanation is offered for how, we guess the god of thunder is a really sound sleeper or was really hung over). Thrymr has hidden Mjölnir and is only willing to give the hammer back if the Norse gods will let him marry the most beautiful Freyja.
So Thor and Loki tell Freyja to get dressed all nice so they can marry her to one of their mortal enemies, and she pitches a well deserved fit, shaking the halls of the Æsir. The rest of the gods have a big meeting and it is suggested by Baldur (the prettiest male god, possibly shoehorned in by Christian scholars as a Christ analogue) that they take a page from Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy and just dress Thor up like Freyja and send him in her place.
So the gods dress Thor up in “jewels, women’s clothing down to his knees, a bridal head-dress,” and Freyja’s famous necklace Brísingamen. Loki, who we’ve already described as something of a shapeshifter and a genderbender, makes himself look like a handmaid, and off they go. When “Freyja” astonishes the other giants by eating enough for thirty men, Loki explains that Freyja is so excited about marrying Thrymr that she hasn’t eaten in more than a week. When Thrymr raises Freyja’s veil and sees the burning eyes of a warrior staring back at him, Loki explains that Freyja hasn’t slept in eight days either.
Convinced, the giants bring out Mjölnir to use in the wedding ceremony and lay it on Freyja’s lap. Then Thor slaughters every last one of them wearing a wedding dress and fabulous jewels.

Shiraz
Shiraz
10 years ago

Hmmm. “Creative castration.” How deep.
Not surprised, though. It reminds of when they made the Battlestar Galatica remake and rewrote the Starback character as a woman. It was mass hysteria for some boys, I tell you. Do you know who was really pissy about the whole thing? The original Starbuck — Dirk Benedict (aka Face from The A-Team). I don’t get it, duders, if women are just needlessly bitching everytime they ask for more female protagonists, then what do you call it when duders piss and moan about a character gender flip like Thor? “Masculine role models?” The comic book universe has a shit-ton of them. I don’t think your fragile sense of manliness is endanger any time soon.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

I know I’ve been spending too much time here because when it was announced yesterday my first thought was “I’m sure the manosphere will rage at this!”

Xen
Xen
10 years ago

Hyena Girl, I totally forgot about that one! First time I read that story I was laughing.

saintnick86
saintnick86
10 years ago

The funny part is that Thor isn’t really being turned into a woman, an already established female character (likely Valkyrie) is going to take his place since he’s been depowered.

Thing is, they actually had Loki become a woman once and it was pretty awesome. So even if they did give Thor magical gender reassignment surgery – it’d probably just be as entertaining. Worked when they turned him into a frog that one time…

Being a fan of comics, both superhero and not, part of the fun is the history of surreal antics and situations. Superhero comics are prone to that the most due to ret-cons and trying to make the absurdly complicated canon seem reasonable. Sometimes it is downright gross and offensive, and other times it is hilariously quaint or outdated by today’s standard. Point is that these guys are taking stuff like this way too seriously – but they’d make an issue out of anything as long as they can use some version of “WOT ‘BOUT TEH MENZ?!?!?!”

saintnick86
saintnick86
10 years ago

See Xen ninja’d me on Lady Loki. Not that I’m complaining. 😀

DJG
DJG
10 years ago

Wow – almost a real life version of *What They Did to Princess Paragon*.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

I actually think the idea of Wonder Woman being trans would be amazing. I’d read the shit out of that.
I’m already writing that reboot backstory in my head.

pendraegon
pendraegon
10 years ago

Neat, I always liked the idea of Thor as a mantle rather than being specific individual in his own right. I’m guessing they introduced Angela specifically for this change since they’ve already had Jane as a hammer slinger briefly. It should be interesting to see how the current Thor becomes unworthy of the hammer.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago
lewielikescomics
lewielikescomics
10 years ago

So who wants to tell them that Thor was already a woman for at least part of the Earth X timeline?

Luzbelitx
10 years ago

Then Thor slaughters every last one of them wearing a wedding dress and fabulous jewels.

Sounds like a RuPaul Drag Race acting challenge!

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
10 years ago

Yeah, but will they make Thor a redhead this time?

Cassandra:

I literally LOLed at the bit about the hammer. Oh, honey, that’s not a good shape for a dildo.

Maybe an external vibrator? Obviously it would have to be be made by the Swedish company Lelo.

“Lelo Mjölnir – the new Hitachi Magic Wand”

Howard Bannister
10 years ago

Hey, so, on a related conspiracy theory related bent…

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

“Lelo Mjölnir – Harness the power of the gods in convenient portable form for maximum misandry. Only in Sweden!”

ZombieBear
ZombieBear
10 years ago

The story Hyena Girl told needs to be made into a movie.

cloudiah
10 years ago

I also saw this story, and my first thought was “I can’t wait to see the whining this provokes in the manosphere.”

Puddleglum
10 years ago

I know I’ve been spending too much time here because when it was announced yesterday my first thought was “I’m sure the manosphere will rage at this!”

Lol, I had exactly the same thought.

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