This morning I found a strange message in my notifications on Twitter:
@DavidFutrelle Uncovers, the unrecoverable about MRAs in his own little feeble mind. Has he ever said anything good about MRAs? Anything?
— Attila L. Vinczer (@AttilaVinczer) July 15, 2014
Mr. Vinczer followed up this perplexing tweet with a bunch more insinuating that I’m a “hack,” a “pathological liar,” a “criminal,” and so on — as well as some links to what he apparently sees as “dirt” about me. (More on the latter in a moment.)
Apparently Vinczer — the “Activia Director” for men’s rights hate site A Voice for Men and the son of the genius who designed that AVFM commemorative coin — was stung by my gentle criticism of his father’s coin-designing skills.
So he has decided to dox me, apparently going as far as hiring a private detective to look into my allegedly sordid life.
PI will confirm, every living and non living fact about you. Enjoy your soon to be elevated infamous public status.
— Attila L. Vinczer (@AttilaVinczer) July 15, 2014
So far his doxing of me is not going very well, in that the “dirt” he has dug up about me is either wildly inaccurate, not particularly “infamous”– or not information about me, specifically, at all.
His most serious not-quite accusation: That I’m a criminal. His proof? He’s dug up a 2008 arrest record for some other guy named David Futrelle, roughly a decade older than me, with a different middle initial, and living nearly 900 miles away from me. This man — frankly, he seems like an embarrassment to all of us David Futrelles — was charged with the crime of “possessing stolen goods.”
Who is @DavidFutrelle ? A criminal? http://t.co/FNBy7eNoCt
— Attila L. Vinczer (@AttilaVinczer) July 15, 2014
In case anyone is wondering, I’ve never been arrested. Except once, by campus police, for participating in a sit-in protesting apartheid. (The charges were later dropped.)
The other, er, “information” Attila has dug up is, while actually related to me and not to some other guy, is just a teensy bit inaccurate.
NOTE: There is no city named AMFOHARE, Illinois, nor do any real telephone numbers in the US start with 555.
He has also managed to figure out that I have (gasp!) practiced journalism.
@Alvhun Wow. You have determined that I once wrote a piece for The American Prospect. I don't live in their offices in DC, though, FYI.
— David Futrelle (@DavidFutrelle) July 15, 2014
And he’s suggested that I might be, er, the Antichrist:
@DavidFutrelle is infatuated with #mrm with heavy leaning on AVFM. Could @DavidFutrelle be the Antichrist or just a cheap antagonist wannabe
— Attila L. Vinczer (@AttilaVinczer) July 15, 2014
But two can play at this game. So I have begun digging up information about this Attila guy. And what I have discovered so far is shocking.
He’s been pretty cagey so far about his career as Number One Hun.
And neither will I.
LEGAL DISCLAIMER: Attila Vinczer is not actually the “Activia Director” of AVFM. He is the “Activism Director.” Activia is yogurt that makes you poop, allegedly. He is also not Attila the Hun, as far as I know.
@kamilla1960 Hun, we won’t tar all Atillas that way. Mr V is a horse of a different color. I just wonder at the people who feel they must pay him tribute.
I have a boil on my left inner thigh that was intensely painful yesterday. It was painful today and pretty big, could see it through the tight pants I wore to the office if you were looking. I was half horrified that my body wasn’t resolving the infection, half excited about how awesomely gross having it opened and drained would be. I’m always impressed by the amount of pus in these things and it feels sooooooo good once they’re opened.
Anyways, got home, dropped my pants, took a look and it seems to be resolving. It’s not as extensive or hot or painful to the touch as it was early today. On the one hand, great. On the other hand, disappointing. I’m still hoping it ruptures in it’s own and I can gawk at the nastiness of it without needing medical attention.
I am gross.
In order to “prove” racism is actually misandry GWW is conveniently looking only at racist stereotypes of black men.
What about racist stereotypes of Asian men? They’re anything but hypermasculine. They’re all about being nerdy, weak, small penised etc.
MRAs are just the worst at intersectionality.
@Marinerachel *cough* This is a thing. There are whole seriesof youtube videos.
… i am intrigued by bot flies and.. wow. umm look at the time…
::Reads the OP::
::Reads GWW’s word vomit on reddit::
Is it me, or are these people getting more inept and nonsensical?
Five minutes on google — Mr. Vinczer appears to be 40ish, has lived in Europe, is a fan of the Blue Jays, Farenheit 9/11 and Elvis, has no concept of Facebook privacy settings, and had this to say about the coin —
“On the obverse is one man’s hand dropping a stone into a body of water. His effort creating a tiny little ripple of hope.”
I watch gross things on the YouTubes all day. It is shameful.
One that’s a good beginner topic it ganglion cysts. They’re not bloody at all, just full of KY Jelly! They’re very satisfying to watch drained.
Zit popping is another delight that’s not too horrifying. Also, plantar wart removal. Both are very satisfying to watch with instant results.
From there, one can move on to bigger, grosser things like boils and nasal polyps.
Hey, Argenti, that’s pretty good! Had you ever considered a career in private investigation? I can pay you, but only in commemorative AVfM coins.
I feel kind of guilty admitting this, but I figured out where Elam lives a few weeks ago. It was really easy – about three minutes to find the address and another ten or so to confirm it. (I live in Houston and I was worried I’d run into him at Home Depot or somewhere. We live kind of close, but not that close – whew.) The ease with which I found him tells me a couple of things: that he knows feminists don’t doxx, and that he thinks his followers are really stupid.
I can’t get over the idea that not agreeing with AVFM makes someone the literal Antichrist. I mean, apart from anything else, I thought there was only supposed to be one of those.
David and us are the antichrist. I have proof.
http://37.media.tumblr.com/6c38949e6c7321420a0b8bd173e73938/tumblr_mft8epdTcd1s1mx2yo1_500.jpg
Actually, I like this antichrist picture even better.
http://images.cryhavok.org/d/21906-1/Satanic+Cat.jpg
When asked about whether she endorses Vinczer’s actions, GWW has this to say:
David is apparently kind of like Elliot Rodger. Or something. And also, if you use your real name, it’s fine to hire a PI to investigate you and accuse you of things you haven’t done.
cloudiah – well, it’s deleted, since AutoModerator caught it and I banned them because LOL.
But literally
Wow! Just read the OP. Vinczer’s an asshole. I love how he asked David why he hasn’t said anything good about about MRAs lately. He apparently doesn’t realize MRAs are a hate group. So sad. So Sad.
But good show on making his attempt to dox you a post. Creeper/stalkers should be exposed.
I wonder how many Scooby Snacks GWW is awarded whenever she supports creeper/stalkers and generally gets reality wrong.
RE: GWW’s word vomit:
Nope. Conformity to hetero-patriarchal norms is a measure of civility. Since white supremacist discourse attack people of color on the basis of civility, it follows that racist stereotypes often center around gender. And just as gender stereotypes of white men are not misandric, gender stereotypes of men of color are also not constituted by misandry. So black men are viewed as expressive of lack of civility, not maleness.
All negative stereotype about men are implicitly misogynist because they are required for patriarchy, a system of male dominance over non-men, to exist. So yeah, it would in fact me more misogyny.
Saying all men are rapey and violent is the exact opposite of racism. That is a gender-based judgment, not a race-based one. How is this not obvious to her?
cloudiah wrote,
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I mean, this is why white men were so frequently the victims of lynching, and male Aryan Nazis were so frequently sent to concentration camps. Nothing to do with bigotry. Just the regular trials and tribulations of being men, on steroids.
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You have just earned one hundred points for sarcasm!
Elliot Roger’s intended targets were the women in a sorority house. He clearly stated that he was killing women as punishment for not jumping at the chance to polish his knob. He frequented manosphere sites and regurgitated MRA talking points so obviously that even Paul Elam cannot distinguish his words from the words of one of his own conference speakers. Yet the MRAssholes are still pretending that his murders had nothing to do with misogyny and with the lies they tell and the violence they encourage. Unable to find any actual evidence of misandry, they’ve now decided to appropriate bigotry aimed at racial and religious minorities as evidence of misandry.
That’s some weapons grade, ridiculous bullshit right there.
David Futrelle,
Attila L. Vinczer’s investigative Journalism is a joke. Where did he learn journalism, the same place Kent Hovind learned about “science?”
AVFM’s “Activism Director” is actually a deep cover Feminist Hivemind plant?
Putting aside the obvious, why on earth would feminists even bother? Training and placing a sleeper agent seems like a heluva lot of a hassle to go through just to make AVFM look bad. It’s just doesn’t require much energy to make AVFM look bad, because they do a bang-up jobs discrediting themselves. All anyone has to do is quote their words.
@Argenti
Vinczer’s take on the coin is this?
““On the obverse is one man’s hand dropping a stone into a body of water. His effort creating a tiny little ripple of hope.”
*giggle-snort** I thought it was a condom being tampered with — you know, spermjacking, that thing of myth and lore. The hand does look like it belongs to E.T., by the way. Jesus. What shitty “art.” When I didn’t think that the “body of water” wasn’t a condom, I wondered if it was a pancake, or make a badly drawn Smiley face cookie from the shity Eat ‘n’ Park franchise. Did this dude get paid for his artisitic efforts? Christ.
sparky – well, yeah, everyone is a deep cover Feminist Hivemind plant if you think hard enough. Even Elam.
Basically, to elaborate on what I said, the same “misandric” stereotypes used to support patriarchy itself are leveraged by white supremacy against people of color. The result is that men of color still benefit from patriarchy, yet face a uniquely negative set of stereotypes that specifically function as white supremacy. In other words, men of color face a more malicious, threatening type of gender policing that serves to justify the elimination of people of color by white supremacy. Gender policing against white men pales in comparison in that it only functions as a disciplinary mechanism to produce ideal male subjects. Black men are viewed as born rapists, whereas white men are merely viewed as capable of rape and viewed as acceptable rapists should they ever rape. There is a world of difference that GWW is ignoring, and no doubt it’s because she’s an anti-feminist white woman.
Shorter girlwriteswut?: If people were totes different from the way they are then they would be the same as the way they were, so there.
It seems as though they rilly rilly rilly do not want you talking about their money matters, eh?