I‘ve been so busy with all the shenanigans surrounding AVFM and their little conference that I’m afraid I’ve been neglecting the good old Men’s Rights subreddit. Don’t feel bad, Men’s Rights subreddit, for today I took a few moments out of my hard-core semi-vacationing to pay you a little visit!
While there, I noticed the regulars discussing a terrible quandary that faces all modern men: “As a man, would you help a child in distress?”
Here are some of the answers that got upvoted:
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Yep. Upvotes for a fellow who says he let a three-year-old boy literally fall out of a shopping cart and smash his head open because, oh no, some hypothetical hysterical mother might have accused him of child molestation.
The details of his story make so little sense I can only assume he’s making the story up — if he was walking past the bakery, how could he have been close enough to “reflexively grab” a child in a shopping cart inside the bakery?
I’m not sure which is worse, the thought that this guy actually let a kid fall and smash his head, or the thought that he made up a story about doing so in order to gain some internet points from MRAs. (Well, the former, obviously, but either way this is a mortifying spectacle.)
But not everyone got upvotes. Here’s a comment that got thumbs down from the Men’s Rightsers — along with a heavily upvoted reply:
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Human Rights: You’re doing it wrong.
Thanks to r/AMR for pointing me to this lovely thread.
@Kootiepatra:
I find those other experiences you’ve had extremely weird too and can totally see why you’d find them uncomfortable.
“I can actually see the logical”
I’ve also just realised the word is “unprotected”, not “condomless”, which I just made up.
i r english good
Tinyorc, that is way creepy that he tried to sneak it in. I’ve never understood the vondoms are bad attitude either.
@tinyorc–
That is legit. I have been in a monogamous relationship for many years with a man who doesn’t mind condoms, so I forget about those kinds of concerns because I have been away from them for a while.
@emilygoddess–
I actually wrote the chapter about being a fake geek girl. I am a fake geek girl, because I worked at a video game store and didn’t play Grand Theft Auto V.
Condoms. Stupid phone
If any of my friends ever have kids I’m sending them one of these.
All of this. At my old work this guy who worked in the same company different dept. that I rode the bus with was obsessed with holding the door. He would stand there holding it when I was still a good 30 seconds away. Either I had to walk at a normal pace and watch him standing around holding the door for me or I had to speed up. It was so awkward and I grew to resent it. Eventually I started pretty much racing him to the door. It was hard because he was a fast walker. I had to sit in the front of the bus and make sure I was the first off and speedwalk to the door. I never yelled at him or anything but it really weirded me out. I am able bodied and look it. I can open a door on my own.
If I saw someone beating up Paul Elam, I wouldn’t just walk away. At a minimum, I’d call the police. If I felt safe doing so, I would try to intervene to stop the beating.
And I hate that dude, and think he’s a terrible person.
The paranoia that permeates that reddit thread is something else.
Because everyone knows feeemaaalees love making false (rape? abduction? abuse? anti-male? evil?) accusations, amirite? I guess it’s good that he doesn’t suggest gouging her eyes out would be a sensible precautionary measure.
Wow, that list was chilling. Such great people, willing to turn around and walk away when the world is obviously in need of someone. :/
@ brooked
What, your mom didn’t teach you to make false rape allegations just in time for pre-school?
I made a false rape allegation before I had even learned to speak. That’s how strong the misandry in me is.
My mom taught me to communicate mine via interpretive dance.
@WWTH, I bet that coworker is on Reddit right now, complaining that he was such a nice guy and you didn’t even fuck him for his trouble.
Not surprised that these are the same guys who complain about asking a woman out allegedly leading to a sexual harassment lawsuit. Like, we get it, guys. You think sexually harassing a woman is “being nice” and “giving compliments”, so feminists are terrible for pointing out that what you’re doing is, in fact, sexual harassment. And since there is no middle ground, not being able to sexually harass women automatically leads to the police arresting a guy for talking to a woman. Treating women like equals? What is this strange logic that you’re using?
Saying you won’t help an innocent child in need because men aren’t allowed to do whatever they want whenever they want wherever they want is, once again, blaming your own misdeeds on someone else. I’m not surprised that many MRAs are atheists of the asshole variety; what do you need a god for when you’re so great at absolving yourself from your own sins?
“Sure, I could have easily saved that child from drowing, but since feminism keeps taking away my male privilege, I didn’t really feel like it. Blame feminists. *Blows raspberry*”
Must be strange to live in their world. The sheer amount of self-inflicted martyrdom and persecution complex must do wonders to one’s self-centered ego.
I’m only into earnest cross-stitch and I still want this on a pillow.
There’s a lame mime joke here, somewhere…
Mengzi had something to say about the concept of helping children in need:
Regarding number 9, let’s quote Mengzi again, writing at a time when it was considered the height of inappropriateness for unmarried men and women to have any sort of physical contact whatsoever:
God, This is like a everything that piss me off about the MRM in one post.
1. it shows that their just shit as humans
2. That they really believe their own paranoid crap.
3.The most interesting part is that they do get at a real issue but because MRAs can stop being dicks for five seconds they drowned it in their bile.
There is a dangerous of false accusation for people who work close with children. key part being who work close with children, not random person helping on the street. thankfully with proper training law enforcement for the most part is much more careful when interviewing children.
Except in comedies, where does it happen that a stranger helping lost/hurt/struggling/crying/whatever children is initially accosted by an angry woman (or mob of women) flinging accusations of pedophilia? In my world, the first word out of the (usually frantic) mother’s (or father’s) mouth is “Oh my God! What happened?!” The parent would then listen to the tale of woe, check the kid was okay, and then thank the stranger.
It’s not like this is a common occurrence, but I have run across children who were lost and crying and asked them what was wrong. I would then walk them to a place where announcements could be made for the parent of little Suzy or Tommy, and then voilà, the world was made right.
My inference is that these are mad creepy dudes who would freak people out and don’t know how to deal with simple social interactions that don’t involve their dicks.
Re: doors
My guess is, anything short from instant sex in exchange for holding the door is MISANDRY.r
@fromafar:
I guess all firefighters, policemen, and EMS folks (and dispatchers!) will have to just be ladies then. You know, since the lot of them talk to each other, a lot.
I’ll make sure to say bye to the guys, next shift, since they’ll all be quitting to avoid talking to police, ever.
I am curious. According to the male survival list, men should walk away when they see women or children being harmed and/or in some kind of distress…and they should not even call the police. Do these “guys” (assuming that they are human ) realize that their hands–off- in- all- ways policy is illegal? In the US, good Samaritan laws are in effect in most, if not all, states. If a crime is being committed and you are a witness to it, you must call the police. It is advised that you not get involved in a crime, as that would put you in danger, but if someone identifies you as a person who witnessed a crime in progress and you did NOT call the police, or try to, you could be in serious trouble.
Oh, though, I do think one of their ideas is VERY good. Every MRA-beast SHOULD get a vasectomy. Take themselves out of the gene pool. That is a good idea, isn’t it just?
They alienate themselves…blame others for their loneliness and then cry because they are lonely. My husband and I were just talking about happiness and compassion and found these quotes from the Dalai Lama, found in his book “The Art of Happiness”:
“Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries. Without them, humanity cannot survive.”
“If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.”
“happiness is determined more by one’s state of mind than by external events.”
I believe that it is legal to let someone die in Idaho if they are having medical problems and you have the ability to but no interest in helping them. However, I think even there it’s not legal to not report a crime in progress.
We could try to use this as a lure to get all the MRAs to move to Idaho and then quarantine them somewhere in the panhandle. They’d definitely fit in with all the White Power and militia groups there.
*trigger warning*
I’ve never met or heard of a child molester yet who said they weren’t framed, except for the one who said the arrest for being an internet predator should not count because the 14 year old he met with for sex wasn’t even real. She was really just cops, guys! That totes shouldn’t be a crime since he didn’t get to rape the girl he set out to rape. His evil wife left him over it and everything so he was the “real” victim.
Yes, that happened. I wish I could say that was the most my skin crawled when a person spoke in my presence, but it wasn’t. I’ve heard worse. I could fill a series of Southern Gothic novels with real quotes from people life has been “unfair” to or who have to treat women and/or minorities like they do and who hadn’t even been drinking that much when the mean ‘ol cops pulled them over.
It takes such a sense of entitlement to want sympathy for something like not getting to commit the rape you set out to do but getting being put on a registry anyway and that level of entitlement is not rare.
Its almost funny when we get budding young Libertarians here telling us how revolutionary their misogyny, racism and belief in their own unappreciated specialness is. It isn’t new. It isn’t rare. You can find it in every courtroom, jail, dive bar, strip club and seedy backwater frequented by not too bright, not to ambitious, good time lovin, Jager swilling, conceal and carryin, dirty white guys in backward ball caps and unironic mullets.
They are also sure that they are better than women and brown people. They also think real men are tough, selfish, cruel and accountable to no one and that women are vindictive b*tches not to be trusted just like their daddies did before them. They are guys who brag about fucking a drunk teenager like it’s not rape. These are the decedents of the men who used to put flaming crosses in people’s yards. One such guy once told me, grinning, about the time he set fire to his own dog. Young men like that would think calling a fat woman a “hambeast” was hilarious too. They make jokes about “throat punching” b*tches with their dicks to put them in their place. I’ve heard it. They think of themselves as “nice guys” too. They are not nice.
But you know what?
Even those guys would think you were a worthless piece of shit if you just let a small child fall and bust it’s head and you could have stopped it.
Don’t you touch my crotchdumpling!