I‘ve been so busy with all the shenanigans surrounding AVFM and their little conference that I’m afraid I’ve been neglecting the good old Men’s Rights subreddit. Don’t feel bad, Men’s Rights subreddit, for today I took a few moments out of my hard-core semi-vacationing to pay you a little visit!
While there, I noticed the regulars discussing a terrible quandary that faces all modern men: “As a man, would you help a child in distress?”
Here are some of the answers that got upvoted:
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Yep. Upvotes for a fellow who says he let a three-year-old boy literally fall out of a shopping cart and smash his head open because, oh no, some hypothetical hysterical mother might have accused him of child molestation.
The details of his story make so little sense I can only assume he’s making the story up — if he was walking past the bakery, how could he have been close enough to “reflexively grab” a child in a shopping cart inside the bakery?
I’m not sure which is worse, the thought that this guy actually let a kid fall and smash his head, or the thought that he made up a story about doing so in order to gain some internet points from MRAs. (Well, the former, obviously, but either way this is a mortifying spectacle.)
But not everyone got upvotes. Here’s a comment that got thumbs down from the Men’s Rightsers — along with a heavily upvoted reply:
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Human Rights: You’re doing it wrong.
Thanks to r/AMR for pointing me to this lovely thread.
Hands are more bacteria laden than genitals.
And mouths still more so.
Could be worse – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_anatomy#Urogenital_and_endocrine_systems
Psh, fuck hands. Think of MOUTHS, yo. They’re basically bacteria pits; I’m sure pecunium could tell you about the infection risks of bite wounds.
People are filthy. That’s what makes it FUN! 😀
Aaaaand ninjaed!
WWTH; the thing is, I know that! I’ve done the cultures, even…
But, barring micro-cuts or larger wounds, the membranes of the mouth and vagina are far more permeable than the hands, and less easily sanitized. Not that I really like random people touching me… I don’t know where their hands have been!
Regardless, I fully acknowledge my visceral eww reaction is a bit irrational and juvenile. There’s a figurative ton of things I should be more worried about.
Still, bit of squicked about it.
Cat mouths are disgusting, too. Love my fuzzball, dearly, even though he’s 600 miles away. 🙁
But, IV antibiotic therapy is not fun, y’all.
Contrapangloss — should I whip out my “they’re called condors” gif? 🙂
Seriously though, they do solve that problem!
“I really don’t get this “Adults should grow out of it” thing CVC has about playgrounds…”
I don’t get most of the things CVC seems to think. But yeah, this one is just bizarre, and, to me at least, it reads like a man at a playground = creep, a woman at a playground = meh (or just assuming one of the kids is hers). And no, adults of all stripes, except actual creepers, are allowed to enjoy goofing off as long as the kids get dibs.
Apep — never occurred to you have she wasn’t peeved because you didn’t find her pretty but because you felt the need to point this out?
LBT — yep. For entirely random reasons I’ve heard it from the horse’s mouth that pecunium finds biting to fail the safe test for safe sane and consensual. Cuz mouths are gross.
And dinner is ready! Time to use my icky mouth ^.^
Argenti:
Please, do!
After dinner, of course.
Hopefully this works — http://img41.glitterfy.com/13245/glitterfy3072320T629B81.gif
Thanks! Glittery words of truth.
Soda fountain of snorted laughter, barely avoided. My aunt’s pooches are looking at me funny, though.
Psh, fuck hands. Think of MOUTHS, yo. They’re basically bacteria pits; I’m sure pecunium could tell you about the infection risks of bite wounds.
Well, from my own experience – I’ve never ever caught an STD. But every time I’ve gotten involved in a new relationship, I’ve developed a sore throat from a minor throat infection. Amusingly enough, my wife-to-be and I came down with a sore throat at the same time just after we started seeing each other, which led to her being a bit worried because she didn’t want anyone in our professional community knowing we were together…
Are cat mouths that bad? For some reason I always assumed they weren’t. I thought their saliva had all these enzymes that broke down everything gross and that’s why their fur is always so nice and clean. I usually let Dracarys lick my hands if she wants to and they always feel cleaner then when I wash them with soap! Is that gross and wrong? She’s sitting on the ottoman obsessively bathing as I type this.
That’s mainly what I was thinking when I had my “oh, dog, filth EVERYWHERE” moment. Which is kind of funny, since I’m not usually freaked by germs. Oh, well. A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin and all that jazz.
WWTH:
Cats have really high infection rates for bites. It’s partially because most cats have a bacteria called Pasteurella multocida/em>, which is perfectly fine on the surface of skin, but really not good beneath it. Also, they have thin, narrow little canines that give great puncture wounds. Punctures are notoriously hard to clean thoroughly.
When my cat got me (he was ticked about a new cat interloper, and I was in the way), I immediately washed the wounds with soap, water, and then did a 15 minute soak in hot antimicrobial solution. Even with that, I had a massive infection within 12 hours. Not fun.
Blockquote mammoth be branching out to italics, eh?
” I don’t hold it open for women because it might validate their egos and make them think that someone wants them.”
Strangely I have managed to live my whole life with the assumption no stranger wants to fuck me, and it has not done me any harm. In fact, the idea that random men might suddenly develop a mad desire for sex with my fat, plain middle-aged self is rather terrifying and creepy.
Because my sexual attractiveness to total strangers is not actually at the forefront of my thoughts and hasn’t been since I was a hopelessly unfuckable teenager. Normal adults grow out of this phase, as I did.
Someone holds a door for me, I thank them. I do not use that action as validation. Again, because normal adults do not. (And I use ‘normal’ to mean people who have gone through puberty and come out as functioning human beings. I am far from ‘normal’ in other ways.)
The idea that a man or anyone is holding a door for me as some indicator of my attractiveness is about as likely to enter my head as the idea that if I don’t hold open a door, a Tyrannosaurus will burst through it and eat me. I suspect this is true for almost every single human being on the planet except heavily deluded MRAs.
As described, sounds to me like he decided to be massively more rude back.
Not sure why you want it, but…
Ha! That’s exactly what I was thinking, Katz. The typo-ness blew right past me.
Also, it took me an unreasonable length of time to process i.v. antibiotic therapy instead of 4 antibiotic therapy. It must be close to suppertime.
Obvious joke is obvious.
@talacaris:
I snortlaughed.
@katz, glad you got there first, I had a “wat?” moment with that typo!
I don’t get squicked out about the thought of, well, intimate partner’s intimate bits, and wouldn’t even if bacteria were A Thing wrt to him. Random people, yeah, keep your fluids to yourself, urgh. But that’s not even thinking about bacteria or infections or whatever, it’s just general grossness.
Kitty spit doesn’t bother me – I’m just slightly bemused that it smells so bad, yet the fur they wash with it smells so good.
I tend not to think about bacteria or be bothered by the idea, generally. Just as well, given Mads makes free with the kitchen bench and neither Mum nor I is the least bit inclined to chase her off.
I’ve often wondered that too. Why don’t clean cats smell like cat breath?
I had a body-fluid discussion with a co-worker once. Someone had brought their baby in, and I got a little baby-pee on me. Co-worker was totally horrified. But, she had found a lost dog on her run one morning and took him in to the vet (I think he had been limping or something), and later found that her gym clothes were wet. He had peed on her gym bag. No problem, it was just a little dog pee.
So we had this discussion about how she was fine with dog pee but not baby pee, and I was the complete opposite.
I like animals from a distance, but I’m allergic, and have to wash my hands immediately if I touch one, just in case I forget and then rub my eyes or something. So I have this brain thing that says touch animals -> wash hands -> animals are unclean.
@Unimaginative – that’s interesting, ‘cos I’m of much the same mindset as your co-worker. Animal pee, poo, puke – doesn’t bother me. But I prefer not to be around babies because if I got their body fluids on me (and I have a somewhat irrational view of them as liable to leak or explode at any moment), I’d probably throw up. I daresay it’s largely to do with loving animals and wanting to be around them, and having been around them all my life, whereas babies and children … enjoying seeing friends’ youngsters on-screen is plenty. 😛
@katz, I’m just glad they don’t smell like cat breath! Imagine cuddling a kitty who smelled like zir breath, blech …