Let’s say that you’re the “Managing Editor” of a website known far and wide for calling women “whores,” as well as an assortment of other 4- and 5-letter words generally considered crude sexist slurs. Let’s just say that you had a convention, and that during this convention your official spokeswoman went on a bit of a name calling rampage on Twitter, repeatedly attacking a woman who had tried to report on said convention as an “attention whore,” a “fame whore,” and a “little whore,” and offering similar “whore”-based assessments to other critics of the site.
And let’s just say that despite all this you also had a desire to convince the world that your site was not actually the misogynistic cesspit that it so obviously is. Would you:
1) Apologize for using the words “whore” and “bitch” and “c*nt” and other similar sexist epithets against women.
2) In your capacity as editor, quietly remove the word “whore” (and “bitch” and “c*nt”) from future postings on the site, and tell your PR maven to maybe come up with a less misogynistic insult of choice.
3) Start calling men whores so that no one can accuse you of hating women because, see we use “whore” to refer to men too!
The answer, of course, is 3 — at least if you’re Dean Esmay, “Managing Editor” of A Voice for Men. In a recent comment thread on AVFM, he declared:
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CONFIDENTIAL TO D— E—-: No one is buying your bullshit. Also, if you want to try to convince the world that you’re a Friend of Sex Workers, you should probably stop using the word “whore” as an insult for women or men.
wait, that application was for sainthood? I thought it was to come back as the devil on someone’s shoulder… damnit, wrong forms again!
@kitteh
“Hey, Ally, want to hear something funny? May I email you?”
Sure!
“This is in spite of the fact that one in six men under the age of 36 develops prostate cancer and that 80% of men over the age of 80 have tumor cells in the prostate (so literally every single man in the population is dying of prostate cancer.)”
Idk if it’s still the case, but decades ago when my aunt was in medicine, there was a saying about old men dying WITH prostate cancer, not FROM prostate cancer — because it tends to advance very slowly, and by 80+, well…you don’t really need to worry much about 10+ years done the line.
Which isn’t to say that it shouldn’t get more funding, cuz FUCK CANCER, but some tumor cells, at 80+? Yeah, that’s probably not going to be the cause of death.
Also, let’s assume that it’s an honest to god fact that not only do 80% of men over 80 have tumor cells in their prostate (believable in its own right), but that every last one will die of prostate cancer — no heart attacks, strokes, etc — that would still mean 80% of men, not “literally every single man”, are dying of prostate cancer.
All logic aside, particularly since I’m working with decades old medical info, a troll can’t math, color me surprised!
Yay for another Pratchett fan!
Hey, I wouldn’t have known English wasn’t your first language if you hadn’t mentioned it. 🙂
Odds are that this bitternitwit is an old troll, generally called Mr Al, aka blog herpes. He’s been around for years, and this twerp not only has a nym almost the same as his longest-lasting sockpuppet, Steele. Now if you want mangled English, read that guy’s comments. All due to his terrible misandrist primary school teacher, apparently.
This one has all the tells, the whines about being short and unattractive and so on. Blog herpes was forever on about how women would spit at him in the street or do terrible things like not smiling at him when he spoke to them in a lift. Full of rage, that one.The longer-term members here have pretty much recognised him already. I wasn’t around during the main period of his commenting, but I’ve read a few old threads and ewwwww, just ewwww.
“Maybe we should send him a jigsaw.”
Maybe we can schedule shifts? I’ve got a 2,000 piece one of Starry Night and GODDAMN!!
750 pieces? Two days. This thing? *head explodes* doesn’t help that besides the moon I have basically no reference points.
Catherine von Überwald — your English is excellent, don’t worry about it!
Kitteh — speaking of old trolls, did the buzzing sound get banned finally? Or was I dreaming?
Argenti, well, Catherine already pointed out his difficulty with simple addition (or keeping his story straight), so ecpecting him to grasp percentages is really too much.
Thanks, Ally! What address would you like me to use? I don’t think you’re in my email contacts and I don’t want to abuse mod access.
Argenti, yes, he did! Waaaaay overdue imo, but it happened at last.
A 2000 piece jigsaw? Damn, I used to have a 1000 piece one of a manuscript illustration. That was hard enough, I can’t imagine getting to grips with Starry Night!
I’m really late to this party, but I wanted to pop in & say hi!
There was a documentary on SBS (tv network in Australia) called “Who’s your Daddy” which investigated this whole “30% paternity fraud” nonsense. It was really interesting & they looked across a wide range of data sources & ended up with estimated figures of 0.6 – 1.5% of mis-attributed paternity. (there were different calculations for Australia & the US I believe).
While those numbers represent real people, who may of course be affected negatively, it’s in no way close to the 30% stat that the MRM keep rolling out as their evidence that all women just out to scam men for their hard earned money by tricking them into paying for another man’s child.
I’m not sure if the show is still available, but there’s some information on this site here:
http://www.sbs.com.au/programs/tales-of-the-unexpected/gallery/10-myths-surprises-about-paternity-just-who-your-daddy
@kitteh
It’s aaliyahsyed94[at]gmail[dot]com.
There are more like eight-ish blood types, if you discount conditions that make blood react funny to things, and go solely on the A, B, O, and Rh (+/-) alleles.
Fun fact: O+ was (and probably still is) the most common blood type in the US two years ago. O- however, remains fairly uncommon.
::waves at another fellow Aussie::
Hi kitteserf 🙂
Thanks, Ally!
Also, just skimming, so haven’t fully read everything, but troll is ringing many bells.
Unattractive appearance? Selfish admitting? Teel deers, everywhere?
Sock-dar, PING!!!!
I’m glad BS is in moderation. For a troll challenge he should have to back every claim with a citation that is
a) Not from an MRA, reddit, Cosmo (wtf?)
b) From the 21st century
*unattractive as in, troll claiming unattractive. I’m blessed to have no knowledge of whether those claims are accurate. May it remain so, for all eternity.
Kitteh — w00t!!
Skye — I don’t think I’d seem that yet, but point noted.
Contrapangloss — and I somehow doubt trolly gets how those mix and how crappy a measure it is for paternity. (Or criminal forsensics, if the MRA cared about false rape accusations, they’d be pushing for DNA tests for men put away by blood typing. But they can’t blame women for DNA testing being relatively new.)
Hi kittehserf!
(I’m not sure if my other comment went through, pretty sure I mis-typed your name though. Which wouldn’t be a great way to start off my commenting)
Hey guys! Been busy, did I miss anything? Hmmm… No, doesn’t look like I did.
Of course they can. Everything is women’s fault.
Oddly, I actually believe BS’s story about ‘any man in the phone book’. I can totally see someone trying to seriously engage with this nitwit, hitting a wall of insistent ignorance and saying the most outrageous thing possible as he storms off disgusted.
“But they can’t blame women for DNA testing being relatively new.”
“Of course they can. Everything is women’s fault.”
If women hadn’t been in the caves eating bon bons while teh menz built the entirity of society (whilst hunting the mammoths for the ungrateful feeemales) we could have had DNA testing before fire.
English is my only language and I’m not so good at writing in it.
Don’t worry too much about it.
I also adore Terry Pratchett. If George Takai wasn’t already my imaginary internet grandpa, Terry Pratchett would be.
I’m another person who has technically had cancer. I don’t really think it counts because it was found, excised and gone all in a very short time with very little fuss. I’ve had false positives on screenings that were scarier than the actual cancer the doctors found. I had a kind of skin cancer that is usually very dangerous. That’s because it is usually found after it begins to work it’s way inwards. (Don’t wait. Get that funny looking freckle interrogated by the cancer police today. It could be plotting against you!) I have a couple small scars and so long as I keep wearing sunblock for vampires, I’ll be fine. I don’t mean to be glib. I’ve lost loved ones to cancer, but if you get diagnosed, do not assume you’re finished.
A friend of mine had her benign tumor removed today. She’ll be fine. We’re all very happy about that. 🙂
Please don’t be afraid to get screened. The earlier it’s caught, the better.