Let’s say that you’re the “Managing Editor” of a website known far and wide for calling women “whores,” as well as an assortment of other 4- and 5-letter words generally considered crude sexist slurs. Let’s just say that you had a convention, and that during this convention your official spokeswoman went on a bit of a name calling rampage on Twitter, repeatedly attacking a woman who had tried to report on said convention as an “attention whore,” a “fame whore,” and a “little whore,” and offering similar “whore”-based assessments to other critics of the site.
And let’s just say that despite all this you also had a desire to convince the world that your site was not actually the misogynistic cesspit that it so obviously is. Would you:
1) Apologize for using the words “whore” and “bitch” and “c*nt” and other similar sexist epithets against women.
2) In your capacity as editor, quietly remove the word “whore” (and “bitch” and “c*nt”) from future postings on the site, and tell your PR maven to maybe come up with a less misogynistic insult of choice.
3) Start calling men whores so that no one can accuse you of hating women because, see we use “whore” to refer to men too!
The answer, of course, is 3 — at least if you’re Dean Esmay, “Managing Editor” of A Voice for Men. In a recent comment thread on AVFM, he declared:
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CONFIDENTIAL TO D— E—-: No one is buying your bullshit. Also, if you want to try to convince the world that you’re a Friend of Sex Workers, you should probably stop using the word “whore” as an insult for women or men.
More straw feminists. I’m getting tired of you claiming we think things that we don’t actually think. Really, now.
That’s pretty inconsistent with like…basically any egalitarian worldview.
When you were 15?
Oh, goodie, that worked out. I can pick up the cold cuts on the way down.
@sebhai
I can understand being upset if you’re in a relationship that is supposed to be monogamous and someone has an outside sexual partner. I don’t understand staying in that relationship but not wanting to raise a child as the result of that encounter because they aren’t biologically related. In that case you’re just punishing a human being because of something somebody else did that they had no control over.
“When women start taking care of other people’s children and not suing hospitals for mixing up babies, then you’ll have something to talk about. But right now all you’re doing is championing ranking of DNA by women only and not by men, which is sexist beyond belief.”
We’re already taking care other people’ children,not an issue…
So you’re going to sue your ex wife for lying to you about her child’s real father.Go ahead I don’t think most feminist would be offended by it..
Oh wait a minute you don’t have an ex-wife
Awesome, thank you for humoring me. The other guy was pro minimum income and I was just trying to square that with other libertarians I’d heard speaking about the issue.
“Time to switch to libertarian troll bingo, all. Get your card here: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3456/3184751741_44b5a0782e.jpg”
Some of those are true and some aren’t. One is the white thing with a bad haircut. I’m not white. Also, please stop shaming people for their appearance. Second, I don’t care what the Founding Fathers said. They weren’t libertarians. They were oligarchical slavers and thieves who suppressed the anarchist/anti-tax rebellions and crushed the Articles of Confederation for the creation of an intrusive federal government.
You can have your own religion in France. You can’t get public funding for it and there are some (severe, I admit) restrictions on how you express that religion in public.
To adopt U.S. parlance, laïcité governs conduct, not belief.
And there we have it.
“Traditionalism tells me to be a provider and protector for women because they’re weak, which I don’t think is fair.”
Traditionalism from…
“So, you’re saying its completely impossible for a trans person or a gay person to be misled about fathering a child? You think this is a completely impossible thing to happen?”
I suppose it’s possible. And in that case, a woman would be the one doing it and feminism would support it just like in the traditional situation. So why does the fact that someone is trans-gendered or gay have any relevance to paternity fraud?
Yes, but you’re a dumb fuck and we do not care what you think.
You are showing yourself to be like just about every single libertarian I have ever encountered. Just an FYI!
@bittersweet
You use the term “Alpha God” and expect people to believe you have any understanding of human relationships? Interesting.
UPDATE FROM THE SUPER SECRET SOLID-GOLD FEMINIST BUNKER UNDER WHOLE FOODS:
We have wifi and bon bons down here, so leave your luxury condos and sprawling estates with only as much as your Gucci bags and Manolo Blahnik’s can carry.
“That’s pretty inconsistent with like…basically any egalitarian worldview.”
Value is literally something that we make up. literally. It means nothing outside of your mind. Nothing has any objective value.
I am literally sitting here with a bag of popcorn, refreshing on my phone.
This is awesome.
News flash, trans women exist. Trans women are women. And again, it isn’t something feminism supports.
“Yes, but you’re a dumb fuck and we do not care what you think.”
Yeah, I know. I’m sowwy. Next time I’ll duct tape my mouth and let you speak for me because that’s what non-feminist minorities are supposed to do.
Well, at least you admit that something isn’t an always/never thing.
You keep saying this. Where are you getting this? Do you think feminists have secret schools that teach women the ways of sperm-jacking and cuckolding?
So why should we care about paternity fraud anyway if selfishness is a virtue? Aren’t those awful feminazis, or whoever is committing the alleged fraud, just being awesome selfish people who are totally owning at life by milking some other poor sap for all he’s worth?
In that case, I value you shutting the fuck up.
That is the value that I have made up. u mad?
“News flash, trans women exist. Trans women are women. And again, it isn’t something feminism supports.”
Well obviously I’m talking about women who are capable of producing children. So that excludes infertile women and other women who don’t have a uterus.
Feminists hate trans women by the way. Here’s an article about how feminists bullied a trans woman who wanted to join their community until she committed suicide: http://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/29ob2i/til_a_swedish_transexual_was_kicked_out_of_a/
Assuming this is true,
(1) paternity fraud doesn’t matter
(2)it means humans are free to develop their own value systems.
So the point you’re making is … ?