Misogyny Theater is back with Episode 4!
If you paid any attention to A Voice for Men’s recent conference in – well, near – Detroit, you probably heard about the guy who was ejected from the conference after reportedly “petting” a reporter and a number of other men. (You can read about him here.)
In this episode of Misogyny Theater, we return to the Man Going His Own Way who calls himself Sandman to hear his highly speculative theories about this gentleman and his activities.
Sandman also warns Men’s Rightsers and MGTOWers that if they get together in large groups, they will inevitably attract opportunistic sex-seekers eager to take advantage of the man surplus for their own perverse ends. Apparently, angry dudes who hate women are like catnip to gay men and straight ladies alike.
The audio for this little cartoon of mine comes from Sandman’s video “Men’s Rights Molester.” I have indicated edits in the audio with little scratchy sounds. And I’ve bleeped out the name of the alleged molester. Otherwise it’s all straight Sandman.
My previous Misogyny Theater episode featuring Sandman can be found here.
Crowd chatter and buzzer sounds from FreeSFX.
Glad to help, GrumpyOldNurse!
Have some Shorty and Kodi bloopers for extra smiles.
http://youtu.be/vMhCL8hl54s
Exactly! In a country like NZ where we have superannuatants with an entitlement attitude to it (no means testing, pegged to median adult wage, few requirements for work history) then it is also means taxpayers are subsidizing inter-generational wealth transfers. Which is not at all fair.
I get bored and annoyed with the elderly saying “but my home’s an asset”. Assets are liquidated for income. These people expect to die still owing 100% of their house, so they can leave it to the children.
The rich get richer, the middle classes tread water, and the poor get poorer.
Oh, and I’m in a stupid argument with a privileged white guy again about how low income people just choose not to feed their kids properly, and they just need budgeting services. I have been wanting to throw my phone at the wall for hours.
And anyway none of that is *really* self-sustaining or free of the capitalist economy. Buy land? Work with a realtor, an escrow company, and a bank. Go solar? Work with a solar company. Sew your own clothes? Buy cloth. Knit or weave your own cloth? Buy thread or yarn. Spin your own yarn? Buy fiber. Raise your own alpacas for wool? Buy fodder. Grow your own alpaca fodder? Buy farm equipment. And so on.
TL;DR: No man is an island.
At 18? Stay at the first college I went to, graduate with a dual major in psych and art, avoid two rapist ex’s and a gaslighting narcissist, which would’ve done wonders for my sanity, stay moved out, not have to move fish every year >.< Grad school, either forensic psych or art therapy. Get a nice little place in Pittsburgh (I was in love the moment the train exited the tunnel on my first visit), fish, greenhouse. Maybe put my hobby of poking architecture into a job if grad school had left money // income for another degree…and seeing how this little project was the result of me challenging myself to take a popular trend (modular cargo containers and green design) further…yeah, not unlikely I'd have ended up with the idea AND the degree and mental health to do something about it.
Thinking what I could do with 100k today is less depressing.
Not to mention that fantasies of turning into a sufficiency farmer require one more thing on top of all the knowledge, land, cash to get set up … they require a lot of physical fitness and endurance. Kind of leaves people with a whole range of disabilities out in the cold, doesn’t it?
I don’t know what I’d do with $100 k now. It wouldn’t even buy a goddamn flat in Melbourne. Maybe I’d get a license and buy a car, though I’d need to have a pretty good income already just to afford to run the thing.
I suppose it’s more practical than suggesting that people build a time machine and go back to the capitalism tipping point to prevent it happening, but not by much. And again, this has been tried before, and it typically hasn’t worked out too well for women in particular.
Katz — oh, for sure. Starting up off grid definitely requires capitalist resources. My little project was more focused on the eco side of things than shunning capitalism — buy from eco friendly sources, etc.
Hell, I’d been thinking the labor cost? Always, always hire local crews. If the idea caught on at all, run it as an architectural firm, hire local, ensure eco standards and ADA ones are met, small core staff, basically no profit margin besides living wage for said staff, donate any excess or use it to build free homes.
My lofty ideal is that everyone is entitled to a house they can use, and that this is possible without putting undue burden on the planet.
On prisons and the justice system: Everyone should read this address Clarence Darrow made to prisoners in Cook County (Chicago) jail in 1902. It’s really sad that this is still considered radical more than a hundred years later and things haven’t changed a bit.
http://www.bopsecrets.org/CF/darrow.htm
::snerk:: If I had a time machine I’d be back fucking with history in different ways – literally, with a bit of luck. 😉
That is a shocking and terribly misandric way to use a time machine.
(I approve.)
Oh yeah, that’s a great goal. We will go solar here just as soon as it becomes cheap enough. I feel like I’m wasting my big south-facing California roof.
I’m not sure it would actually be ecologically feasible for everyone to have their own house, though; a quick calculation suggests this would take up about 1% of Earth’s land area. I don’t know if that’s too much.
I’m reminded of Douglas Adams: “There is no problem in becoming your own father or mother that a broad-minded and well-adjusted family can’t cope with.”
Yay, I has done misandry today!
Well, I always said the child I had would be the next king of France or I wasn’t having it, so a time machine would be just the thing. 😀
It’s not just the physical disabilities that prevent you from doing the physical labour involved. Some of that can be offset or managed with some clever work-arounds. Raised garden beds for veg, low level espaliers for fruit and nut trees as examples. Get your protein from mushrooms in a box at the bottom of the linen cupboard. I remember a piece from Jackie French – one of Australia’s primo self-sufficiency type people – discussing this. She’d done the whole, off-grid, 100% self-sufficiency thing when her son was quite small on a small block, living in a not-very-glorified garage, with no income at all.
Her view is that it’s pretty manageable for most people with a detached or semi-detached house to get most of their food from even a small portion of land – but that wouldn’t include much grain for breads and similar products, let alone meat from large animals. Requires a bit of imagination but it’s quite doable. However, she says that 100% self-sufficiency is devastatingly hard work, personally stressful and, most important, socially isolating.
Far better to do mostly what you can do within the limits of your skills and resources – which is far more than most people think they can do – and use your income to purchase things which you can’t grow or make yourself. Let’s face it. If we all went down the self-sufficiency route, there’d be no tennis racquets for the local kids to learn with, nor orchestras nor ballet schools nor much of anything else. Such activities would again become extremely exclusive activities restricted entirely and only to wealthy people with enough land to produce surplus value and the rest of us would be toothless peasants if we didn’t have anyone in our family or community with dentistry skills.
All of the above, indeed, mildlymagnificent. Sometimes I think some “everyone should go off the grid” types think it’s going to be like The Good Life – and even there, in a 1970s comedy, there was some acknowledgement of how damn hard it was.
Did Jackie French own that bit of land, or was she renting it? Because I can’t see many landlords (those whose property even includes a back yard, these days) being happy at tenants turning their precious investment into a farm. How do they think people who can hardly afford rentals, let alone the purchase of land, are going to take up farming, or pay back loans, or do any of that?
“You realize that in the cases where this model has been tried (usually by hippies) it’s always ended up being the women who do all the making of stuff from scratch AND all the childcare AND all the cooking and cleaning, right? Which is exactly what would happen if the average family tried it now.”
What do the men do? Farming and outdoor labor? Its not “always”. I’ve been in intentional communities where men do their share, sometimes more, or harder labor. If men are just layin’ about then women can choose not to cook for them or clean up any of their stuff. When they get hungry they’ll get off their asses and clean out a pot and cook something for themselves.
” Let’s face it. If we all went down the self-sufficiency route, there’d be no tennis racquets for the local kids to learn with, nor orchestras nor ballet schools nor much of anything else. Such activities would again become extremely exclusive activities restricted entirely and only to wealthy people with enough land to produce surplus value and the rest of us would be toothless peasants if we didn’t have anyone in our family or community with dentistry skills.”
Maybe. I also think if we “abolished government” like the “anarchists” or “anarcho-capitalists” are suggesting, we’d be back at square one in no time setting up a government again. I mean, that’s how we humans got a government in the first place. There was none, and then at some point we decided that type of social organization would be beneficial to us so we formed a government of some sort.
They have this thing about “hiring private companies to protect us”. That then just means going from what they call a “monopoly of force” (which they rant against all the time) to a “free market of force”. Why is that any better?
I don’t get why they think human nature in the free market will manifest any differently than human nature in government.
Katz — I was looking at how to do it as apts, the problem with that, for the off grid anyways, is water. Collecting water and making it potable works on a fairly small plot for a couple, but you go building up and it quickly falls apart. On the flip side, our handling of rainwater in the US is abysmal — the amount of rain landing on concrete and roof tops is absurd, and instead of being absorbed by grass and trees and such, it becomes run off, which is not eco friendly. So for the off grid it would, I think, offset the land use, and on grid can stack and go condo/apt.
Perks of cargo container housing? They’re built to survive ocean shipping, and metal. Weld them into deep enough supports and they’ll supposedly survive tornados, and unless it gets stuck in the middle of a wildfire (in which case there’s nothing to be done about the heat), they can ride out the fire if the exterior is all fireproof materials.
More spread out societies? Yeah, but I want usable mass transit everywhere it’s feasible, and if we spread out, then that system would be feasible in more places (electric trains, wanna guess what I’d love to see them powered by?)
I’m a hopeless idealist some times, I know. Baby steps though — affordable ADA housing should be a right. Not just for the disabled. This all started when a friend’s father had to spend extra long in a nursing home post-knee-surgery because both bathrooms in his house required using stairs. That’s just silliness, building affordable housing with at least the entry level floor being fully accessible is not that hard (the kitchen sink height does require some work, but it’s not so much work that it couldn’t become a standard part of building a house the way non-ADA sinks are now)
The Chartreuse Vegan, again, please use blockquotes. This is getting seriously annoying.
So maybe you’ve had different roommate experiences with me, but…
And where I am, the last measurable rainfall was in April. So off-grid water is right out.
Yeah, right. Because the women will be so happy to live in squalor (oh, the men’s mess will somehow not spread all over the house? Do tell), and of course none of the men acting this way would bother learning to cook, or enforce treating women as servants. Never happens in subsistence economies, no, no, never. All the men in these back-to-basics groups are going to be totes feminist and with cooking and housekeeping skills.
Similar where my sister’s living, in Queensland. Hardly any rain since July last year – and they’ve been through the so-called wet season since then.
Since July? Yeesh.
I think they used up all their water for a couple of years in one hit. The February before, they had massive floods – sister showed me a shot of water covering a highway overpass.