Jessica Roy, a reporter for Time magazine covering A Voice for Men’s recent :”Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit, found herself the target of a vitriolic tirade from AVFM maximum leader Paul Elam before she even sat down to write her account of her time amongst the MRAs.
Elam, evidently incensed about a handful of sarcastic remarks that Roy tweeted during the conference, denounced her as, among other things, a “hack,” “a liar and bigot” and a practitioner of “journalistic scumtardery,” whatever that is. Commenters on A Voice for Men happily joined in the hate, denouncing her as an “airhead,” a “disgrace and a liar,” “lil’ miss hair-o’or-her-eyes,” and a “little asshole [who] will look like a right nazi in five-to-ten years time.” Amazingly, no one pulled out the c-word. Evidently AVFMers are still on their best behavior.
Roy’s “What I Learned as a Woman at a Men’s Rights Conference” appeared on Time.com on Wednesday. Far from the hack job Elam and pals were predicting, her piece turned out to be a long, thoughtful and nuanced account that, while skeptical of AVFM and its brand of hateful nonsense, displayed considerable sympathy for some of the troubled men she met at the conference, men who could benefit from a movement that truly tried to offer solutions for men in difficulty instead of encouraging them to scapegoat feminists and women.
Reflecting on her discussions with several conference attendees, Roy wrote,
When you talk to someone like 68-year-old Steve DeLuca, the legitimate need to remedy some of the issues raised by men’s rights activists becomes more evident. A Vietnam veteran who was injured in combat, DeLuca spoke movingly to me about the two brothers he lost to suicide, and the unfathomable toll the high suicide rate among men can take. There are men out there, like DeLuca and [rape survivor] Brendan Rex, who have a real stake in the movement’s success. The paranoia and vitriol of its leaders can’t possibly do anything for them.
So how did AVFM fans respond to this article? By defending their vitriol. On Time.com, several commenters denounced Roy as “bigot” and a “fascist,” and suggested that their “righteous anger” was the only appropriate response to the evils of feminism.
Never mind that the quote Markham was responding to came from a paragraph in which Roy wrote with sympathy about the suffering of male Veterans and rape survivors.
Meanwhile, an anonymous commenter received upvotes for this, er, nuanced analysis:
In a followup comment, “Guest” doubled-down, suggesting that Roy was a “stinky twit” and a “human monkey.”
Roy made clear that she learned a good deal at the conference. The defenders of AVFM’s vitriol seem to have learned nothing.
NOTE: Picture of monkey party borrowed from here.
Recipes for hot sauce antidotes! The best methods for condom tampering! DIY fake BC pills to fool the guy into thinking you won’t conceive! Maybe an April Fools issue of the Borg is in order?
Yay! LBT is something other than a green quilt block! Huzzah!
And double-huzzah to the banning of the troll. What a disingenuous little shit.
Plus a link to the actual sperm recipe book. http://www.amazon.com/Natural-Harvest-collection-semen-based-recipes/dp/1481227041
I just watched a 10 facts about WWI video that said sperm was used as invisible ink. Apparently some (spy?) dude had to be warned to only use fresh sperm because older ejaculate was smellier (and therefore more detectable by the enemy).
Found a link about it here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8015180/MI6-used-bodily-fluids-as-invisible-ink.html
I’m sorry, but between sperm recipes (WHY) and sperm ink, I’m about ready to hurl.
Completely unable to miss this opportunity, hopefully this will make you laugh hellkell:
Was a hundred years ago today
Sgt. Pepper taught the spies to play
They’ve been going in and out awhile
They’re guaranteed to raise more than a smile
So may I introduce to you
The act’s been hidden for all these years
Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Gland
What was wrong with lemon juice?
“Maybe an April Fools issue of the Borg is in order?”
But it isn’t April…otherwise I’d be down with this. Granted, summer posting has been, uh, sparse. So calling it some summer fun could work? Stick shit up as drafts and I’ll send a mass mail to take a look and get group consensus? (You can edit? Or do you need that power? Drop me a line if you need powers!)
Haha, I figured we’d have to wait until April! IDK if I can edit, I’ve never checked since I’ve never had enough confidence in my writing to submit anything.
Email me your modship (like lordship, but with mods) — I’ll get you set up. You can always post brain bleach (it has its own page!) to get your toes wet 🙂
@pallygirl… I’d heard the Romans used urine as invisible ink( and mouthwash), but semen as invisible ink…
They put themselves into their work, MI6 did.
Lemon juice would react to iodine, I guess, as would pee.