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AVFM Conference Open Thread: One journalist says he was molested; another was called "whore" by AVFM PR rep

The capacity crowd at the conference; from Metrotimes.
The capacity crowd at the press conference at the AVFM conference; from Metrotimes.

If anyone feels compelled to discuss the AVFM conference, do it here.

I’ll post links to any articles and blog posts and interesting tweets and pretty much anything of note I see about it; if you run across any, feel free to post them in the comments and I can add them to the post.

Here’s the live audio stream for the conference, which is off the air. And the video stream, which isn’t working at the moment. Apparently they’ve packed up for the day. (Friday, that is.)

There was no protest, as the organizers of the earlier protest called for a boycott

The official twitter hashtag is #icmi14. For some wonderful Janet Bloomfield PR professionalism, see @JudgyBitch1 and @icmi14.

Highlights so far:

A Detroit MetroTimes reporter says he was literally molested at the conference:

An older man came up to me and immediately complimented my hairy arms (a first). He then started telling me all this crazy shit about how he was from California and he makes movies and he wants to take me to Malibu. Regardless of sexual orientation, it was pretty weird. People started filling up the seats around us and I didn’t want to make a scene, so I just politely accepted the compliment and tried to deflect. The dude kept petting my arms.

It was at this point that I realized this is the kind of creepy shit women deal with … everywhere … every day. A part of me wondered if the feminists had planted this guy to hit on rape-apologizing MRAs to teach them a lesson about “rape culture.” If that is the case: well-played. Unfortunately I think I was just dealing with a garden-variety creep.

HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVISM! On Twitter, several others said they’d also had, er, encounters with this guy.

Here’s Janet Bloomfield’s response:

Sworebytheprecious, despite donating the cost of a ticket to charity, has not been let into the conference, despite assurances from Dean Esmay that she would be. Here’s her twitter feed, and her explanation of what happened on Reddit.

i put on my nice heels, a dress, and did my hair and makeup. the lyft was called and i arrived promptly at 3. my breath tight, i introduced myself to the police and to security. inside was a small table, two chairs, a man and a woman. i noticed a small vaporizer on the desk. we used the same tank.

i introduced myself by first name and last name, not knowing if Esmay had put my name down. last i heard i was not allowed on the premises even with a ticket and a video declaring me welcome. no matter who i was reporting for, but it doesn’t hurt to ask. if anything else i wanted to make myself available to the MRA. im still here.

a very large, gruff man appeared and quickly asked me to leave. his bass carried. he looked like Esmay. i asked why i should leave, was cut off, and he repeated himself in a louder voice still. i thanked everyone for their time and exited the building. i took one single photo as proof i was there, and quietly left. the cops followed me out and seemed curiously bemused by my presence. i wondered who they expected.

Janet Bloomfield had this to say about Swore’s treatment:

https://twitter.com/JudgyBitch1/status/482599155986997249

https://twitter.com/JudgyBitch1/status/482608296222662657

https://twitter.com/JudgyBitch1/status/482608815758528514

Follow the links to Twitter to see even more from JB along those lines.

I will post more as I find it.

UPDATE 1:

AnimalNewYork.com has a report with a number of quotes from last night’s press conference. The reporter also quotes a St. Clair Shores police officer saying that no specific threats have been made against the conference.

By the time yesterday’s planned 3pm “press conference” got going 25 minutes late, there were only about 30 people in the audience, most (but not all) white middle-aged men. A handful of them were reporters. The rest were true believers in a “War on Men.” There was a disco ball in the center of the hall, draped with white paper streamers.

“Point the camera that way and that way only,” said one of the three security guards armed with superfluous walkie talkies, reprimanding someone taking video footage of the attendees, which was prohibited. The organizers introduced the speakers at great lengths, taking pride in their various appearances on Fox News. A Voice For Men founder and conference organizer Paul Elam stated that the cop cars parked outside were there because of more death threats. ”I’m getting tired of the death threats,” shouted a staff member.

Outside, I spoke to St. Clair Shores Officer David Burmeister about the alleged death threats. He said that no specific threats have been made at all. The cops were contracted to be there by A Voice For Men. It appeared that they weren’t there to protect them from specific and imminent danger, but to give the illusion of it.

Hmm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Robert Ramirez
10 years ago

I think JB is oblivious to the fact that the shit she is saying on Twitter is public.

marinerachel
marinerachel
10 years ago

I think Paul gives her a Milk Bone every time she tweets.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Jb doesn’t have the self awareness of Edina.

JB,
Keep pretending that you’re getting the kind of attention you want and that your conference hasn’t been the joke we knew it would be. Maybe you’ll even start to believe it. Goodness knows you seem to believe alot of other lies.

Yes, we’re going to keep mocking your “movement” of hatred. When ever you are spoken of at all, it will be to warn others of you or to point and laugh. Sometimes, it will be both.
But that’s all the attention you’ll ever get from anyone outside of your sad little cabal of Misogynist Rape Advocates.

Caitlin
10 years ago

So basically they had a whole event so they could sit in a half-empty conference room in a suburban hotel and say the same things they say on their blogs and Reddit forums. Great use of resources, guys. Very impressive.

brooked
brooked
10 years ago

After David made a solid Elam joke on Twitter, despite not being involved, the official voice of the AVfM Conference 2014 (@icmi14) jumped in the convo swinging.

@DavidFutrelle @QuinceMountain That is so clever! It’s almost like you’re an attention whore, too! Whore score me: 2 Futrelle: ?
7:29pm – 27 Jun 14

I can’t believe they thought a two hour press conference was a good idea. Wait, scratch that, I guess can believe that, considering the people involved. What a bunch of goofs, unfortunately their clownish antics don’t make up for their poorly thought out misogynistic blather and harassment.

brooked
brooked
10 years ago

judgybitch | June 27, 2014 at 6:24 pm
Yay! Please keep this thread running for as long as possible. Your work is very important to us and we appreciate your support.

Lol!

Uh, touché? Or not.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

“The creepy dude at the conference was eventually booted out of there. The consensus is, that he was planted in order to provoke an incident.”

Too funny!

marinerachel
marinerachel
10 years ago

It’s funny that the feMRAs portray themselves as rejecting a victim complex, as if that’s what feminism is, when, in actuality, feminism is the opposite. It’s standing up and saying you won’t be relegated to restrictive roles based on biological sex and neither should anyone else. That’s not victimhood at all. That’s being your own advocate and making your own fortune.

marinerachel
marinerachel
10 years ago

It’s not a hotel, Caitlin! It’s a VFC facility. GAWD!

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Wait, they actually think they are scoring points of some kind by calling people whores?

They think that’s clever and not at all misogynist and dim?

Uh-huuuuuh.

Bless their hearts.

brooked
brooked
10 years ago

@Caitlin

in a half-empty conference room in a suburban hotel

Actually it’s a step down from a conference in a suburban Ramada Inn, this is probably the first press conference held in that VFA hall.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

marinerachel,

Here’s your chapstick. 😀

marinerachel
marinerachel
10 years ago

I wonder if the alleged creeper is a regular at the VFW.

WatermelonSugar
WatermelonSugar
10 years ago

I am really, truly baffled that the @icmi14 account is being used this way. It’s the only easily accessible outlet they have for the public to access (the live stream of audio is difficult to make work, and apparently they had a lot of technical issues at the conference). I don’t expect much from this bunch, but I really thought they would have enough judgment to at least keep the official twitter account at least a little professional. You know, since they want to be taken seriously.

As it stands, they’re about as professional as a kindergartener calling someone on the playground a poopy pants.

…on second thought, keep up the good work, JB!

brooked
brooked
10 years ago

I was going to add that their clownish antics is making David’s job easier, then I realized he’s going to be buried under an avalanche of mockable material by Monday.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Seriously, JB, you are perfect for the job of MRA PR rep. No one could do the MRM justice the way you do. Keep up the …um…good(?) work!

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

You know, since they want to be taken seriously.

Well people in their own circles on the Internet (e.g. r/mensrights, AVFM) seem to take them seriously. You’re telling me that there are outsiders watching and taking note and mocking them for being misogynistic assholes? OH NOES!

[/sarcasm]

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

brooked,
It is going to be hard for him to pick out the most mockable bits when they whole ordeal has been one hilarious, hate-filled gaff after another.

Robert Ramirez
10 years ago

It’s like watching the Hindenburg leave the airport.

Dark Horse Swore
Dark Horse Swore
10 years ago

YOU FEAR THE WHORE OF BABYLON PUNY MORTALS?!

I AM THE WHORE OF… OUTER SUBURBAN DETROIT SUBURBS! GIVE ME TWEETS FOR I AM HUNGRY!

brooked
brooked
10 years ago

@WatermelonSugar

You’re obviously following @icmi14 nexus this happened a few hours ago

<blockquote<AVfM Conference 2014 @icmi14
Clueless ingrates think there are air-conditioing bunnies and poop fairies who do the hard work. Men do that work. #icmi14
4:42pm – 27 Jun 14

JudgeyB is too busy battling perceived foes that she doesn’t post any helpful information for people attending the conference or for those trying to follow it online. You know, the stuff that official Twitter feeds are traditionally created to do.

Alice Sanguinaria
10 years ago

Oh hey Swore! How was day 2?

brooked
brooked
10 years ago

Blockquote fail. Thanks Obama Futrelle!

strivingally
10 years ago

Ohai Swore! How’s the outside of the VFW hall? I presume they’re still not letting you inside, because you’re part of The Great Feminazi Conspiracy or whatever. Any news for us?

Tigerbos
Tigerbos
10 years ago

30 people…about 25 more people than GirlWritesBullshit’s appearance in Chicago a couple of years ago. HA HA HA