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Voices of Hatred: A look at the noxious views of six of the speakers at A Voice for Men's upcoming conference

Curious about the views of the people scheduled to speak at A Voice for Men’s “Men’s Issues” conference next week? Here’s a little video guide. CONTENT WARNING: Domestic violence, rape, incest.

If you’d like to have their quotes in writing for future reference, here’s a transcript of the quotes used in the video. I’ve linked to the source of each quote (or to posts of mine that discuss the quotes in greater detail). Enjoy!

Mike Buchanan has said:

I believe girls learn at a young age that whining gets them what they want, especially from over-indulgent parents who might later wonder why their daughters became Entitlement Princesses. Inevitably these girls continue whining into adolescence and adulthood because they continue to get what they want. It’s up to men to break the cycle …

Men living in houses with cellars can put a sign on the cellar door, ‘The Whine Cellar’, and politely direct whining women towards it. In houses without a cellar, the smallest room in the house – or possibly the garden shed – could be designated ‘The Whine Box’.

Mike Buchanan is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Mike Buchanan is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Buchanan’s quote

Stefan Molyneux has said:

Women who choose the assholes will fucking end this race. They will fucking end this human race, if we don’t start holding them a-fucking-ccountable. … Women who choose assholes guarantee child abuse. Women who choose assholes guarantee criminality, sociopathy. Politicians, all the cold-hearted jerks who run the world came out of the vaginas of women who married assholes.

And I don’t know how to make the world a better place without holding women accountable for choosing assholes. Your dad was an asshole because your mother chose him. Because it works on so many women. If “asshole” wasn’t a great reproductive strategy it would have been gone long ago. Women keep that black bastard flame alive. They cup their hands around it, they protect it with their bodies. They keep the evil of the species going by continually choosing these guys.

If being an asshole didn’t get women, there would be no assholes left. If women chose nice guys over assholes we would have a glorious and peaceful world in one generation. Women determine the personality traits of the men because women choose who to have sex with, and who to have children with, and who to expose those children to. …

Your dad is who he is fundamentally because your mother was willing to fuck him and have you. Willing and eager to fuck the monster. Stop fucking monsters and we get a great world. Keep fucking monsters, we get catastrophes, we get war, we get nuclear weapons, we get national debt, we get incarcerations … Women worship at the feet of the devil and wonder why the world is evil. And then you know what they say? We’re victims!

Stefan Molyneux is a scheduled speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men.

Stefan Molyneux is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Molyneux’s quote. NOTE: The text above is a more complete version of the slightly truncated quote used in the video, which was edited for clarity, for length, and to remove some repetition.

Erin Pizzey has said:

If you’re referring to Paul’s statement that many or most women fantasize about being taken, I’m sorry but that’s the truth. That doesn’t mean they want to be raped, but it’s a fantasy I think almost all women have. And I think he went on to say that feminists like Andrea Dworkin who were and are so obsessed with rape are really projecting their own unconscious sexual frustration because men don’t give them enough attention. Andrea was a very sad lonely woman like this–I didn’t know her but I knew of her, and I knew Susan Browmiller and you can just read her stuff to see it there.

Erin Pizzey is a scheduled speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Erin Pizzey is a voice of hatred

SOURCE of Pizzey’s quote. NOTE: The text above is a complete version of the slightly truncated quote used in the video, which was edited for clarity.

Karen Straughan has written:

I used to live under a young couple with a baby. I’d listen as she followed him from room to room upstairs, stomping, slamming things, throwing things, screaming. After about an hour, he’d eventually hit her, and everything would go quiet. An hour after that, they’d be out with the baby in the stroller, looking perfectly content with each other.

A man I know who has experience with men in abusive relationships would get his clients to answer a questionnaire. Things like, “after the violence, did you have sex?” “If so, how would you rate the sex?” 100% of men in reciprocally abusive relationships said “yes” to the first, and “scorching” to the second.

He also posited that the much-quoted cycle of violence–the build-up, the explosion, the honeymoon period–correlates with foreplay, orgasm and post-coital bliss.

Erin Pizzey called it “consensual violence”, and said in the main, that was the type she’d see at her shelter. It is also the type that results in the most severe injuries in women, surprise surprise, likely because our “never EVER hit a woman” mentality has those men waiting until they completely lose control of their emotions before giving their women what they’re demanding.

Karen Straughan is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Karen Straughan is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Straughan’s quote.

Warren Farrell has said:

The worst aspect of dating from the perspective of many men is how dating can feel to a man like robbery by social custom …

Evenings of paying to be rejected can feel like a male version of date rape.

If a man ignoring a woman’s verbal “no” is committing date rape, then a woman who says “no” with her verbal language but “yes” with her body language is committing date fraud. …

We have forgotten that before we began calling this date rape and date fraud, we called it exciting.

Somehow, women’s romance novels are not titled He Stopped When I Said “No”. They are, though, titled Sweet Savage Love, in which the woman rejects the hand of her gentler lover who saves her from the rapist and marries the man who repeatedly and savagely rapes her. …

It is important that a woman’s “noes” be respected and her “yeses” be respected. And it is also important when her nonverbal “yeses” … conflict with those verbal “noes” that the man not be put in jail for choosing the “yes” over the “no.” He might just be trying to become her fantasy.

Warren Farrell is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Warren Farrell is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Farrell’s quote.

Warren Farrell has said:

Incest is like a magnifying glass. In some circumstances it magnifies the beauty of the relationship, and in others it magnifies the trauma. …

When I get my most glowing positive cases, 6 out of 200, the incest is part of the family’s open, sensual style of life, wherein sex is an outgrowth of warmth and affection. …

[M]illions of people who are now refraining from touching, holding, and … caressing their children, when that is really a part of a caring, loving expression, are repressing the sexuality of a lot of children and themselves. Maybe this needs repressing, and maybe it doesn’t.

Warren Farrell is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Warren Farrell is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Farrell’s quote. I have removed a word that appears in the original interview but that Farrell insists he did not say.

Paul Elam has said:

In the name of equality and fairness, I am proclaiming October to be Bash a Violent Bitch Month.

I’d like to make it the objective for the remainder of this month, and all the Octobers that follow, for men who are being attacked and physically abused by women – to beat the living shit out of them. I don’t mean subdue them, or deliver an open handed pop on the face to get them to settle down. I mean literally to grab them by the hair and smack their face against the wall till the smugness of beating on someone because you know they won’t fight back drains from their nose with a few million red corpuscles.

And then make them clean up the mess.

Now, am I serious about this?

No. Not because it’s wrong. It’s not wrong.

But it isn’t worth the time behind bars or the abuse of anger management training that men must endure if they are uppity enough to defend themselves from female attackers.

Paul Elam is the central organizer of the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit, and the founder of A Voice for Men

Paul Elam is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Elam’s quote.

For a detailed look at the homophobia of Anne Cools, another speaker at the conference, see here.

Big thanks to everyone who helped with the video!

 

 

 

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Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@Ally

u don’t have to apologize for anything

adn if it hepls i bet ur making loads more sense than me rihgtnown

saintnick86
saintnick86
10 years ago

I definitely haven’t [defended MRAs]

Oh? Here’s a reminder…

There will be some MRAs who have good intentions so I think it’s unfair on those individuals to generalize too much about MRAs.

I’m fucking done.

…So, Bowie’s “Life on Mars”? God, love that song!

I’ll throw in a favorite – or three – of mine:

[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrfc8c6VkTA&w=640&h=480]

contrapangloss
10 years ago

Aaand, WP needs a LaTeX widget. I want to show off pretty summations!

That might be a sign that I should bed go as well. Maybe. Can I resist the temptation of the mammoths?

We’ll see…

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

Do plantonic solids complain about being forever in the friend zone?

katz
10 years ago

it should be a silent movie like metropolis katz

with all of those exaggerated actings and whatnot toooo =D

fucking love hat movie i need to see it again <3

Glad you liked it. I am such a proselyte for that movie.

Here is another version of it that’s good to watch sleep depped and/or stoned: Giorgio Moroder’s 1984 rescore.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

*platonic

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Odd that trolly disappeared at what would be about 7 am in the place she claims to live. Were the chickens hungry?

kittehserf
10 years ago

Must be.

contrapangloss
10 years ago

Pallygirl; yep. You got to feel for the tetrahedron, most, though.

The tetrahedron is it’s own dual. At least the other four are in a platonic dual with a shape other than themselves. It’s tough to be friendzoned by another solid…

…but when you’re your own dual, and it’s still platonic, it’s really rough.

contrapangloss
10 years ago

Okay, bed, me, get.

Night all!

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@contrapangloss

night :3

all- should i go bed too?

idk what dto do

katz
10 years ago

Do plantonic solids complain about being forever in the friend zone?

*rimshot*

kittehserf
10 years ago

Marie – you feel sleepy enough to zzzzzzzzz off?

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@kittehs

idk. i’m getting slepeier plus i took my sleepy pill whichs houd help .

kittehserf
10 years ago

Maybe go to be while the sleepy feeling’s with you (I don’t know if it can happen when you’re on sleepy pills, but if I don’t get to bed when I’m getting sleepy, I end up waking up and not being able to sleep for hours).

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@kittehs

yes good idea i go bed now mammotehr

night nigh tur all still awesome. <3

katz
10 years ago

Goodnight! I hope you feel better in the morning!

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

Night Marie.

Yeah, when I take diazepam I need to go to bed while I’m in the sleepiness window, otherwise I pass through it and I’m still awake.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

Oh my word I just noticed something Elizabeth is actually my first troll interaction! Yay I’m so excited! Well I don’t think that’s something to be excited about but you know what I mean!

Goodnight everyone I mean good morning since it’s 2 am

mildlymagnificent
10 years ago

The oblivious one seems to have pulled her head in for now. But kerrist on a pogo stick!! this is the worst.

Honestly Auntie Alias you’re going to think I’m crazy but yes genuinely that is what I think, maybe not immediately, but have you tried that? honestly take me seriously pls I bet you I could handle the situation and get them onside in minutes.

I may be mistaken but she said absolutely nothing in response to what I wrote 3 pages (and a nice lie down) earlier. Can’t cope with someone whose children are older than she is? I dunno.

If she thinks that those men I worked with weren’t nice and polite, she’d be wrong. They were accountants and lawyers – or part time students working for those degrees, or maybe economics. They didn’t shout at me. They didn’t swear at me. They calmly and politely told me I should be sacked. And if I weren’t sacked, that I should be paid less than them for doing exactly the same job, literally sitting beside them. I didn’t shout at them. I didn’t swear at them. I just stood my ground, most of the time. I did shut up when the rape jokes came out though, that was what passed for humour back in the 70s. And I wasn’t much older then than she is now, I didn’t have the language to deal with it.

I have a horrible feeling that she might just be as oblivious and uneducated about any and all civil rights movements as she says she is. In which case I sincerely hope she doesn’t start her oh-so-optimistic blog. The avalanche of vile filth that could come her way would be an educational experience, but not one I’d wish on her or anyone else.

But if she starts telling indigenous people that being sweetly nice and polite to the dominant oppressive group is the best way to get back some of your long lost land rights, I’ve got dibs on the popcorn franchise.

katz
10 years ago

Also, I don’t understand the number ninja thing. I know it’s not new, but I didn’t understand it before either.

It is a game to make trolls go away. You count and if two people say the same number, you start over. That’s all.

mildlymagnificent
10 years ago

Had that lie down because we’re going out for dinner tonight. It’s my birthday. Yaaaay me!!!

So far we haven’t found a decent Chinese restaurant in this area, so we’re trying somewhere new. It’s all very well moving to a new place for good reasons – but it really highlights all the previous advantages of living 5 minutes from a well known restaurant strip. You don’t know what you’ve got (and taken for granted) ’til it’s gone.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

They paved paradise and put up a parking lot (but no good restaurants).

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

And I think we’re up to 14

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