Curious about the views of the people scheduled to speak at A Voice for Men’s “Men’s Issues” conference next week? Here’s a little video guide. CONTENT WARNING: Domestic violence, rape, incest.
If you’d like to have their quotes in writing for future reference, here’s a transcript of the quotes used in the video. I’ve linked to the source of each quote (or to posts of mine that discuss the quotes in greater detail). Enjoy!
Mike Buchanan has said:
I believe girls learn at a young age that whining gets them what they want, especially from over-indulgent parents who might later wonder why their daughters became Entitlement Princesses. Inevitably these girls continue whining into adolescence and adulthood because they continue to get what they want. It’s up to men to break the cycle …
Men living in houses with cellars can put a sign on the cellar door, ‘The Whine Cellar’, and politely direct whining women towards it. In houses without a cellar, the smallest room in the house – or possibly the garden shed – could be designated ‘The Whine Box’.
Mike Buchanan is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men
Mike Buchanan is a voice of hatred
SOURCE for Buchanan’s quote
Stefan Molyneux has said:
Women who choose the assholes will fucking end this race. They will fucking end this human race, if we don’t start holding them a-fucking-ccountable. … Women who choose assholes guarantee child abuse. Women who choose assholes guarantee criminality, sociopathy. Politicians, all the cold-hearted jerks who run the world came out of the vaginas of women who married assholes.
And I don’t know how to make the world a better place without holding women accountable for choosing assholes. Your dad was an asshole because your mother chose him. Because it works on so many women. If “asshole” wasn’t a great reproductive strategy it would have been gone long ago. Women keep that black bastard flame alive. They cup their hands around it, they protect it with their bodies. They keep the evil of the species going by continually choosing these guys.
If being an asshole didn’t get women, there would be no assholes left. If women chose nice guys over assholes we would have a glorious and peaceful world in one generation. Women determine the personality traits of the men because women choose who to have sex with, and who to have children with, and who to expose those children to. …
Your dad is who he is fundamentally because your mother was willing to fuck him and have you. Willing and eager to fuck the monster. Stop fucking monsters and we get a great world. Keep fucking monsters, we get catastrophes, we get war, we get nuclear weapons, we get national debt, we get incarcerations … Women worship at the feet of the devil and wonder why the world is evil. And then you know what they say? We’re victims!
Stefan Molyneux is a scheduled speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men.
Stefan Molyneux is a voice of hatred
SOURCE for Molyneux’s quote. NOTE: The text above is a more complete version of the slightly truncated quote used in the video, which was edited for clarity, for length, and to remove some repetition.
Erin Pizzey has said:
If you’re referring to Paul’s statement that many or most women fantasize about being taken, I’m sorry but that’s the truth. That doesn’t mean they want to be raped, but it’s a fantasy I think almost all women have. And I think he went on to say that feminists like Andrea Dworkin who were and are so obsessed with rape are really projecting their own unconscious sexual frustration because men don’t give them enough attention. Andrea was a very sad lonely woman like this–I didn’t know her but I knew of her, and I knew Susan Browmiller and you can just read her stuff to see it there.
Erin Pizzey is a scheduled speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men
Erin Pizzey is a voice of hatred
SOURCE of Pizzey’s quote. NOTE: The text above is a complete version of the slightly truncated quote used in the video, which was edited for clarity.
Karen Straughan has written:
I used to live under a young couple with a baby. I’d listen as she followed him from room to room upstairs, stomping, slamming things, throwing things, screaming. After about an hour, he’d eventually hit her, and everything would go quiet. An hour after that, they’d be out with the baby in the stroller, looking perfectly content with each other.
A man I know who has experience with men in abusive relationships would get his clients to answer a questionnaire. Things like, “after the violence, did you have sex?” “If so, how would you rate the sex?” 100% of men in reciprocally abusive relationships said “yes” to the first, and “scorching” to the second.
He also posited that the much-quoted cycle of violence–the build-up, the explosion, the honeymoon period–correlates with foreplay, orgasm and post-coital bliss.
Erin Pizzey called it “consensual violence”, and said in the main, that was the type she’d see at her shelter. It is also the type that results in the most severe injuries in women, surprise surprise, likely because our “never EVER hit a woman” mentality has those men waiting until they completely lose control of their emotions before giving their women what they’re demanding.
Karen Straughan is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men
Karen Straughan is a voice of hatred
SOURCE for Straughan’s quote.
Warren Farrell has said:
The worst aspect of dating from the perspective of many men is how dating can feel to a man like robbery by social custom …
Evenings of paying to be rejected can feel like a male version of date rape.
If a man ignoring a woman’s verbal “no” is committing date rape, then a woman who says “no” with her verbal language but “yes” with her body language is committing date fraud. …
We have forgotten that before we began calling this date rape and date fraud, we called it exciting.
Somehow, women’s romance novels are not titled He Stopped When I Said “No”. They are, though, titled Sweet Savage Love, in which the woman rejects the hand of her gentler lover who saves her from the rapist and marries the man who repeatedly and savagely rapes her. …
It is important that a woman’s “noes” be respected and her “yeses” be respected. And it is also important when her nonverbal “yeses” … conflict with those verbal “noes” that the man not be put in jail for choosing the “yes” over the “no.” He might just be trying to become her fantasy.
Warren Farrell is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men
Warren Farrell is a voice of hatred
SOURCE for Farrell’s quote.
Warren Farrell has said:
Incest is like a magnifying glass. In some circumstances it magnifies the beauty of the relationship, and in others it magnifies the trauma. …
When I get my most glowing positive cases, 6 out of 200, the incest is part of the family’s open, sensual style of life, wherein sex is an outgrowth of warmth and affection. …
[M]illions of people who are now refraining from touching, holding, and … caressing their children, when that is really a part of a caring, loving expression, are repressing the sexuality of a lot of children and themselves. Maybe this needs repressing, and maybe it doesn’t.
Warren Farrell is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men
Warren Farrell is a voice of hatred
SOURCE for Farrell’s quote. I have removed a word that appears in the original interview but that Farrell insists he did not say.
Paul Elam has said:
In the name of equality and fairness, I am proclaiming October to be Bash a Violent Bitch Month.
I’d like to make it the objective for the remainder of this month, and all the Octobers that follow, for men who are being attacked and physically abused by women – to beat the living shit out of them. I don’t mean subdue them, or deliver an open handed pop on the face to get them to settle down. I mean literally to grab them by the hair and smack their face against the wall till the smugness of beating on someone because you know they won’t fight back drains from their nose with a few million red corpuscles.
And then make them clean up the mess.
Now, am I serious about this?
No. Not because it’s wrong. It’s not wrong.
But it isn’t worth the time behind bars or the abuse of anger management training that men must endure if they are uppity enough to defend themselves from female attackers.
Paul Elam is the central organizer of the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit, and the founder of A Voice for Men
Paul Elam is a voice of hatred
SOURCE for Elam’s quote.
For a detailed look at the homophobia of Anne Cools, another speaker at the conference, see here.
Big thanks to everyone who helped with the video!
The world being a better place doesn’t imply everyone being polite, just everyone being afforded the basic respect of human rights. Also probably you fucking right off, as you’re really damn tedious, darlin’.
Also, aren’t the chickens lonely? You should go talk to them, they probably miss you.
Yep, the feminists here are nastier than people in the MHRM[sic], some of whose comments are fucking listed in the post that David made above these comments.
You really need to tell the difference between people taking issue with your comments and people taking issue with you personally.
You became under attack as a troll because it’s hard to believe anyone can keep posting such idiotic comments as you do, and still be in good faith.
like…i wanna tell elizabeth how full of shit she is
but I cant find words 🙁
now i’m sad i’m loopy
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Elizabeth, I’m telling you this in the nicest way I know.
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Sort of terrified to post a number, seeing as there’s about eight comments per refresh…
I might take number ninja a bit too seriously.
🙂
I wish I was drunk. That might have made Elizabeth more entertaining.
Was there some rule about trolls being tedious or repetitive going into moderation?
And Marie, you just did. You did it implicitly, you ebil feminist you! LOL
WWTH: no, I do not believe there is a blood alcohol level, where you can still be alive, that would make them entertaining.
okay, elizabeth, you are adhering to fundamentally different theories of oppression and that’s why you don’t really seem to understand what folks are saying about oppression here. oppression, as defined by nearly all feminists and womanists, is thought of as unilateral, a matter of men oppressing women on the basis of gender. this is a systematic understanding of oppression because instead of centering discrimination within its discourse it rests on the assumption that oppression is embedded in society and its institutions.
a good example is white supremacy. sure, you could say that it is a racist system in the sense that it facilitates race-based discrimination by nature. but in white supremacy, the racism gives rise to a system of power wherein one group benefits at the expense of the other. in particular, white people oppress people of color within white supremacy.
hopefully it makes more sense to you now, but if not, then let’s apply this model to gender. feminists believe that the patriarchy – the system in which men oppress women on the basis of gender – is the source of sexism. they don’t believe that men are oppressed for being male because men are privileged, not oppressed. they may face some backlash from privilege in the form of gender stereotypes that encourage stoicism in men, but none of this challenges the fact that they are still privileged.
with this understanding of sexism in mind, we can say that feminism is the only necessary ideology for gender equality. that’s because it targets the actual root of men’s gender issues, and that root is patriarchy. despite being women-focused it is also the only way to actually abolish whatever privilege backlash that men face.
the fact that feminists, by virtue of self-labeling, open themselves to animosity and opposition, is unimportant. many civil rights movements have gained ground not through pure peace and mutual respect, but as a power struggle against oppressors. feminists probably wouldn’t have to fight their enemies in a more peaceful world, but the fact is that supporters of patriarchy are the ones who are pushing back and wishing for our marginalization.
i hope all of that made sense. i am really high and i am shit at capitalization right now because my finger feels weird when i try to capitalize thingsa nd i’m just fucking lazy
I haven’t been posting idiotic comments. I’m afraid that’s your opinion perhaps, or perhaps it’s just another personal attack.
The only thing hard to believe here is that you can seriously think you want equality but not apply it to others.
Pff. It’s a game! And it’s only fun if people mess up sometimes. It’s boring if everyone names the right number every time!
(@pallygirl)
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@pallygril
no, i woudl explain to her how she was wrong and then it would hurt more! 😛 Probalby not acutally but I would type an explantiona!1111!!
bc i feel like i hve experienced both ppl being mean to me and ppl oppressing me.
but I feel like I can’t think of regular mean examples
and i think that i fi post oppression expamles everyone will think I overreacting 🙁 🙁
especially b/c i feel lots of how i treated shitty is parents be not good to me.
HAHAHAHAHA I need that laughing George Takei gif again.
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Elizabeth
“How can you support equality whilst hating on other people? How can you want the world to be a good fair place whilst not doing it yourself? This is the craziest thing.
pallygirl I’ve explained this. The reason is because feminism perpetuates a degree of segregation and arguments and hate, which I had thought before but hadn’t seen all that much till now.”
Where is the hate? Have you read my comments? Anyone’s comments? You have said before that you don’t know much about mras and feminism and now you are describing on what they are.
You have said that mras have good intention but you speak poorly about feminists. You say one thing and the next you are completely different. It feels like you are repeating and going back and forth with yourself. And please don’t say ‘this is the craziest thing’ we are avoiding ableist terms.
Is this close to some flounce record, because I feel like elizabeth has been in the doorway waving goodbye and demanding niceness for hours.
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Oops.
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Elizabeth, why don’t you ever respond to me? I’m being so nice.
Attack chicken!!!
That’s just, like, your opinion, brolizabeth.
Going out on a limb, and guessing 16 by when this hits WP
TIL that “equality” means “being nice to very silly people who won’t go away when asked to”. In related news, my dictionary just exploded.
the only reason we speak of oppression in terms of domination of one group by another is that it seems to us to be the most accurate theoretical model. racism, sexism, disablism, transmisogyny, colonialism, fatphobia, heterosexism, etc. all function not as unorganized interplays of individually held antipathies towards other groups but rather as binary systems of privilege in which one group oppresses and benefits at the expense of another group. historically, that is how all of those forms of discrimination have existed in society. it’s just how things have been.
I also learned that, despite all evidence to the contrary, socks are convinced that people can’t smell them.