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Voices of Hatred: A look at the noxious views of six of the speakers at A Voice for Men's upcoming conference

Curious about the views of the people scheduled to speak at A Voice for Men’s “Men’s Issues” conference next week? Here’s a little video guide. CONTENT WARNING: Domestic violence, rape, incest.

If you’d like to have their quotes in writing for future reference, here’s a transcript of the quotes used in the video. I’ve linked to the source of each quote (or to posts of mine that discuss the quotes in greater detail). Enjoy!

Mike Buchanan has said:

I believe girls learn at a young age that whining gets them what they want, especially from over-indulgent parents who might later wonder why their daughters became Entitlement Princesses. Inevitably these girls continue whining into adolescence and adulthood because they continue to get what they want. It’s up to men to break the cycle …

Men living in houses with cellars can put a sign on the cellar door, ‘The Whine Cellar’, and politely direct whining women towards it. In houses without a cellar, the smallest room in the house – or possibly the garden shed – could be designated ‘The Whine Box’.

Mike Buchanan is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Mike Buchanan is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Buchanan’s quote

Stefan Molyneux has said:

Women who choose the assholes will fucking end this race. They will fucking end this human race, if we don’t start holding them a-fucking-ccountable. … Women who choose assholes guarantee child abuse. Women who choose assholes guarantee criminality, sociopathy. Politicians, all the cold-hearted jerks who run the world came out of the vaginas of women who married assholes.

And I don’t know how to make the world a better place without holding women accountable for choosing assholes. Your dad was an asshole because your mother chose him. Because it works on so many women. If “asshole” wasn’t a great reproductive strategy it would have been gone long ago. Women keep that black bastard flame alive. They cup their hands around it, they protect it with their bodies. They keep the evil of the species going by continually choosing these guys.

If being an asshole didn’t get women, there would be no assholes left. If women chose nice guys over assholes we would have a glorious and peaceful world in one generation. Women determine the personality traits of the men because women choose who to have sex with, and who to have children with, and who to expose those children to. …

Your dad is who he is fundamentally because your mother was willing to fuck him and have you. Willing and eager to fuck the monster. Stop fucking monsters and we get a great world. Keep fucking monsters, we get catastrophes, we get war, we get nuclear weapons, we get national debt, we get incarcerations … Women worship at the feet of the devil and wonder why the world is evil. And then you know what they say? We’re victims!

Stefan Molyneux is a scheduled speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men.

Stefan Molyneux is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Molyneux’s quote. NOTE: The text above is a more complete version of the slightly truncated quote used in the video, which was edited for clarity, for length, and to remove some repetition.

Erin Pizzey has said:

If you’re referring to Paul’s statement that many or most women fantasize about being taken, I’m sorry but that’s the truth. That doesn’t mean they want to be raped, but it’s a fantasy I think almost all women have. And I think he went on to say that feminists like Andrea Dworkin who were and are so obsessed with rape are really projecting their own unconscious sexual frustration because men don’t give them enough attention. Andrea was a very sad lonely woman like this–I didn’t know her but I knew of her, and I knew Susan Browmiller and you can just read her stuff to see it there.

Erin Pizzey is a scheduled speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Erin Pizzey is a voice of hatred

SOURCE of Pizzey’s quote. NOTE: The text above is a complete version of the slightly truncated quote used in the video, which was edited for clarity.

Karen Straughan has written:

I used to live under a young couple with a baby. I’d listen as she followed him from room to room upstairs, stomping, slamming things, throwing things, screaming. After about an hour, he’d eventually hit her, and everything would go quiet. An hour after that, they’d be out with the baby in the stroller, looking perfectly content with each other.

A man I know who has experience with men in abusive relationships would get his clients to answer a questionnaire. Things like, “after the violence, did you have sex?” “If so, how would you rate the sex?” 100% of men in reciprocally abusive relationships said “yes” to the first, and “scorching” to the second.

He also posited that the much-quoted cycle of violence–the build-up, the explosion, the honeymoon period–correlates with foreplay, orgasm and post-coital bliss.

Erin Pizzey called it “consensual violence”, and said in the main, that was the type she’d see at her shelter. It is also the type that results in the most severe injuries in women, surprise surprise, likely because our “never EVER hit a woman” mentality has those men waiting until they completely lose control of their emotions before giving their women what they’re demanding.

Karen Straughan is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Karen Straughan is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Straughan’s quote.

Warren Farrell has said:

The worst aspect of dating from the perspective of many men is how dating can feel to a man like robbery by social custom …

Evenings of paying to be rejected can feel like a male version of date rape.

If a man ignoring a woman’s verbal “no” is committing date rape, then a woman who says “no” with her verbal language but “yes” with her body language is committing date fraud. …

We have forgotten that before we began calling this date rape and date fraud, we called it exciting.

Somehow, women’s romance novels are not titled He Stopped When I Said “No”. They are, though, titled Sweet Savage Love, in which the woman rejects the hand of her gentler lover who saves her from the rapist and marries the man who repeatedly and savagely rapes her. …

It is important that a woman’s “noes” be respected and her “yeses” be respected. And it is also important when her nonverbal “yeses” … conflict with those verbal “noes” that the man not be put in jail for choosing the “yes” over the “no.” He might just be trying to become her fantasy.

Warren Farrell is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Warren Farrell is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Farrell’s quote.

Warren Farrell has said:

Incest is like a magnifying glass. In some circumstances it magnifies the beauty of the relationship, and in others it magnifies the trauma. …

When I get my most glowing positive cases, 6 out of 200, the incest is part of the family’s open, sensual style of life, wherein sex is an outgrowth of warmth and affection. …

[M]illions of people who are now refraining from touching, holding, and … caressing their children, when that is really a part of a caring, loving expression, are repressing the sexuality of a lot of children and themselves. Maybe this needs repressing, and maybe it doesn’t.

Warren Farrell is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Warren Farrell is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Farrell’s quote. I have removed a word that appears in the original interview but that Farrell insists he did not say.

Paul Elam has said:

In the name of equality and fairness, I am proclaiming October to be Bash a Violent Bitch Month.

I’d like to make it the objective for the remainder of this month, and all the Octobers that follow, for men who are being attacked and physically abused by women – to beat the living shit out of them. I don’t mean subdue them, or deliver an open handed pop on the face to get them to settle down. I mean literally to grab them by the hair and smack their face against the wall till the smugness of beating on someone because you know they won’t fight back drains from their nose with a few million red corpuscles.

And then make them clean up the mess.

Now, am I serious about this?

No. Not because it’s wrong. It’s not wrong.

But it isn’t worth the time behind bars or the abuse of anger management training that men must endure if they are uppity enough to defend themselves from female attackers.

Paul Elam is the central organizer of the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit, and the founder of A Voice for Men

Paul Elam is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Elam’s quote.

For a detailed look at the homophobia of Anne Cools, another speaker at the conference, see here.

Big thanks to everyone who helped with the video!

 

 

 

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Lea
Lea
10 years ago

I do solemnly swear never to type in anger before at least one cup off coffee ever again.
I apologize for the sloppiness of my comment.
It’s hard to believe, I know, but even I have standards and that was beneath them.

coffee now
coffee good

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

What the frak is Molyneux even trying to say? This is a bad evo psych argument right? Apparently he thinks there is an asshole gene. It must lie on the Y chromosome because his argument seems to be that asshole fathers pass the asshole gene down to their asshole sons (and that’s women’s fault somehow).

I don’t suppose he has actual evidence an asshole gene exists?

Haha. Of course not. Of course it’s assfax.

Has he not met nice people raised by assholes? Or assholes raised by nice people? Has it not occurred to him that some of asshole behavior comes from socialization and not genetics?

There is nothing more annoying than pseudoscientific bigotry.

woodyred
woodyred
10 years ago

@saintnick86 – Im still reading through your post – but in response to the opening sentence – yes, I am more witty than the trolls that pass through here. if we agree on nothing else today, we should at least agree on this point.

woodyred
woodyred
10 years ago

one MRA vs 20 feminists. ha. I’ll do my best guys – I cant field all your criticism at once. cut me some slack

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Isn’t it cute that Woodyred was bragging about progressive his country (the UK) is in the other thread when he’s in this thread proclaiming support for a bunch of regressive reactionaries?

saintnick86
saintnick86
10 years ago

Im still reading through your post – but in response to the opening sentence – yes, I am more witty than the trolls that pass through here. if we agree on nothing else today, we should at least agree on this point.

Dude, learn to read – I didn’t say you were wittier than other trolls. I’m saying you are just as childish as all the other ones, under the delusion you are somehow different.

So, no, it is not something we should “at least agree on this point.” Because it isn’t the case at all.

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
10 years ago

@ woodyred — “I’m in out of my depth, and that’s the fault of the water!”

Ally S
10 years ago

“yes, I am more witt-”

No.

grumpycatisagirl
grumpycatisagirl
10 years ago

Like Ally said, the voices in the video are lovely. Makes me want to hear them say much lovelier things.

woodyred
woodyred
10 years ago

Well – I’ll tell you what – I havent even watched this video – but each of the speakers – I have watched pretty much every video they have made – they are not misogynists – or women haters – or racist – or homophobic – I’ll tell you what – I will watch the damn video – brb

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

@ Fibinachi – you know, you think Im crazy, right ? – well I think youre crazy – “avoiding the draft means you’ll be raped and get aids by deviant homosexuals in prison” – when did Warren Farrell say this ?? can you please cite a source.

He said it in The Myth of Male Power. You support the man but never read his most well-known book?

Once in prison, your son’s nubile, young body combined with his reputation for not fighting makes him a perfect candidate for homosexual rape and, therefore, AIDS. In brief, he is subject to being killed. …

Do male-only draft registration and combat requirements amount, then, to the legalized rape of men? Yes. (p. 135, Myth of Male Power, 1993 hardcover edition)

Quoted from here

I don’t have access to the book, which is why I’m pointing you to David’s article. I know you don’t believe him, but he does provide page number and edition so you should be able to find it in Farrel’s book.

If a boy refuses to register for the draft when he turns 18, he can be barred from all federal jobs–from the US Post Office to the FBI.[v] He faces a fine of up to $250,000 and five years in prison.[vi] Once in prison, a young man’s nubile, young body combined with his reputation for not fighting makes him a perfect candidate for homosexual rape and, therefore, AIDS. In brief, he is subject to being killed. Why? He was too sensitive to kill.

From here.

Farrel really seems to like this argument.

Ally S
10 years ago

Why – the – fuck – do – you – keep – using – dashes – ?

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
10 years ago

Well – I’ll tell you what – I havent even watched this video

http://giphy.com/gifs/Zao5Pr0qlJg2s

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Just out of curiosity Woodyred; what would qualify as misogynist or homophobic to you? You keep denying that blatantly bigoted things are bigoted. I’d really like to know what constitutes going over the line for you.

fromafar2013
10 years ago

@ Lea

coffee now
coffee good

I’m working from home today, so I skipped the coffee.

Went straight for the wine. ;D

Typing up linux server documentation while drunk! It’s a good Friday!

Sadly, I can’t spend too much time on chew toy trolls today. Have fun, ya’ll!

woodyred
woodyred
10 years ago

No no no no no – you people cant be serious with that video. you people are insane. thats brainwashing – do you people sit and listen to and watch video like THIS all day ?? thats insane. please one of you explain to me – what that video I just watched was. tell me now.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Ooh a Mystery Science Theater gif! Those guys are from my metro area. My heart always swells with pride when they get internet references.

Johanna Roberts
10 years ago

That video needed a trigger warning for the incest quote that it did not have! I feel sick to my stomach now. >__< Thanks for the flashback. All those people can go jump off a cliff.

racnad
racnad
10 years ago

While I don’t agree with everything in the quotes in this post, they do bring up several inconvenient truths for feminists – that the dynamics of human nature, relationships and how women behave and respond often do not conform to feminist theory.

Tracy
Tracy
10 years ago

@Woodyred is from the UK, where everyone is witty by default. I’ll bet he’s doing the fish slapping dance as we speak.

woodyred
woodyred
10 years ago

@ Ally S – dashes ….. I dont know why I use them – I try to write like how I would like it heard in someones head – or if I was speaking. the dashes – and the ……. dots – are pauses or punctuations. idk

Ally S
10 years ago

I would rather watch a 10-hour fish-slapping tournament than hear woody try to act like he’s witty.

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

Why are trolls always so ableist?

So, woodyred, please explain how quoting people, in their own words, is brainwashing?

That video is literally reading out loud things that the speakers at this conference has said.

How is that brainwashing? How is directly quoting someone brainwashing?

magnesium
magnesium
10 years ago

Shorter Woody red: I support all of these people. I’ve never read any of their publications, listened to any of their speeches, and I am not at all familiar with any of their opinions or positions on the issues that I pretend to care about. But they hate all the same people as me, so, I’ll just go ahead and defend them and the things they say.

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
10 years ago

@ weirwoodtreehugger — Awesome! The MST3K Movie was a perennial favourite amongst my circle of friends back in the 1990s. It wasn’t until a few years back that I got access to the series as a whole. Friggin’ genius!