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Voices of Hatred: A look at the noxious views of six of the speakers at A Voice for Men's upcoming conference

Curious about the views of the people scheduled to speak at A Voice for Men’s “Men’s Issues” conference next week? Here’s a little video guide. CONTENT WARNING: Domestic violence, rape, incest.

If you’d like to have their quotes in writing for future reference, here’s a transcript of the quotes used in the video. I’ve linked to the source of each quote (or to posts of mine that discuss the quotes in greater detail). Enjoy!

Mike Buchanan has said:

I believe girls learn at a young age that whining gets them what they want, especially from over-indulgent parents who might later wonder why their daughters became Entitlement Princesses. Inevitably these girls continue whining into adolescence and adulthood because they continue to get what they want. It’s up to men to break the cycle …

Men living in houses with cellars can put a sign on the cellar door, ‘The Whine Cellar’, and politely direct whining women towards it. In houses without a cellar, the smallest room in the house – or possibly the garden shed – could be designated ‘The Whine Box’.

Mike Buchanan is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Mike Buchanan is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Buchanan’s quote

Stefan Molyneux has said:

Women who choose the assholes will fucking end this race. They will fucking end this human race, if we don’t start holding them a-fucking-ccountable. … Women who choose assholes guarantee child abuse. Women who choose assholes guarantee criminality, sociopathy. Politicians, all the cold-hearted jerks who run the world came out of the vaginas of women who married assholes.

And I don’t know how to make the world a better place without holding women accountable for choosing assholes. Your dad was an asshole because your mother chose him. Because it works on so many women. If “asshole” wasn’t a great reproductive strategy it would have been gone long ago. Women keep that black bastard flame alive. They cup their hands around it, they protect it with their bodies. They keep the evil of the species going by continually choosing these guys.

If being an asshole didn’t get women, there would be no assholes left. If women chose nice guys over assholes we would have a glorious and peaceful world in one generation. Women determine the personality traits of the men because women choose who to have sex with, and who to have children with, and who to expose those children to. …

Your dad is who he is fundamentally because your mother was willing to fuck him and have you. Willing and eager to fuck the monster. Stop fucking monsters and we get a great world. Keep fucking monsters, we get catastrophes, we get war, we get nuclear weapons, we get national debt, we get incarcerations … Women worship at the feet of the devil and wonder why the world is evil. And then you know what they say? We’re victims!

Stefan Molyneux is a scheduled speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men.

Stefan Molyneux is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Molyneux’s quote. NOTE: The text above is a more complete version of the slightly truncated quote used in the video, which was edited for clarity, for length, and to remove some repetition.

Erin Pizzey has said:

If you’re referring to Paul’s statement that many or most women fantasize about being taken, I’m sorry but that’s the truth. That doesn’t mean they want to be raped, but it’s a fantasy I think almost all women have. And I think he went on to say that feminists like Andrea Dworkin who were and are so obsessed with rape are really projecting their own unconscious sexual frustration because men don’t give them enough attention. Andrea was a very sad lonely woman like this–I didn’t know her but I knew of her, and I knew Susan Browmiller and you can just read her stuff to see it there.

Erin Pizzey is a scheduled speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Erin Pizzey is a voice of hatred

SOURCE of Pizzey’s quote. NOTE: The text above is a complete version of the slightly truncated quote used in the video, which was edited for clarity.

Karen Straughan has written:

I used to live under a young couple with a baby. I’d listen as she followed him from room to room upstairs, stomping, slamming things, throwing things, screaming. After about an hour, he’d eventually hit her, and everything would go quiet. An hour after that, they’d be out with the baby in the stroller, looking perfectly content with each other.

A man I know who has experience with men in abusive relationships would get his clients to answer a questionnaire. Things like, “after the violence, did you have sex?” “If so, how would you rate the sex?” 100% of men in reciprocally abusive relationships said “yes” to the first, and “scorching” to the second.

He also posited that the much-quoted cycle of violence–the build-up, the explosion, the honeymoon period–correlates with foreplay, orgasm and post-coital bliss.

Erin Pizzey called it “consensual violence”, and said in the main, that was the type she’d see at her shelter. It is also the type that results in the most severe injuries in women, surprise surprise, likely because our “never EVER hit a woman” mentality has those men waiting until they completely lose control of their emotions before giving their women what they’re demanding.

Karen Straughan is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Karen Straughan is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Straughan’s quote.

Warren Farrell has said:

The worst aspect of dating from the perspective of many men is how dating can feel to a man like robbery by social custom …

Evenings of paying to be rejected can feel like a male version of date rape.

If a man ignoring a woman’s verbal “no” is committing date rape, then a woman who says “no” with her verbal language but “yes” with her body language is committing date fraud. …

We have forgotten that before we began calling this date rape and date fraud, we called it exciting.

Somehow, women’s romance novels are not titled He Stopped When I Said “No”. They are, though, titled Sweet Savage Love, in which the woman rejects the hand of her gentler lover who saves her from the rapist and marries the man who repeatedly and savagely rapes her. …

It is important that a woman’s “noes” be respected and her “yeses” be respected. And it is also important when her nonverbal “yeses” … conflict with those verbal “noes” that the man not be put in jail for choosing the “yes” over the “no.” He might just be trying to become her fantasy.

Warren Farrell is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Warren Farrell is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Farrell’s quote.

Warren Farrell has said:

Incest is like a magnifying glass. In some circumstances it magnifies the beauty of the relationship, and in others it magnifies the trauma. …

When I get my most glowing positive cases, 6 out of 200, the incest is part of the family’s open, sensual style of life, wherein sex is an outgrowth of warmth and affection. …

[M]illions of people who are now refraining from touching, holding, and … caressing their children, when that is really a part of a caring, loving expression, are repressing the sexuality of a lot of children and themselves. Maybe this needs repressing, and maybe it doesn’t.

Warren Farrell is a speaker at the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit organized by A Voice for Men

Warren Farrell is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Farrell’s quote. I have removed a word that appears in the original interview but that Farrell insists he did not say.

Paul Elam has said:

In the name of equality and fairness, I am proclaiming October to be Bash a Violent Bitch Month.

I’d like to make it the objective for the remainder of this month, and all the Octobers that follow, for men who are being attacked and physically abused by women – to beat the living shit out of them. I don’t mean subdue them, or deliver an open handed pop on the face to get them to settle down. I mean literally to grab them by the hair and smack their face against the wall till the smugness of beating on someone because you know they won’t fight back drains from their nose with a few million red corpuscles.

And then make them clean up the mess.

Now, am I serious about this?

No. Not because it’s wrong. It’s not wrong.

But it isn’t worth the time behind bars or the abuse of anger management training that men must endure if they are uppity enough to defend themselves from female attackers.

Paul Elam is the central organizer of the “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit, and the founder of A Voice for Men

Paul Elam is a voice of hatred

SOURCE for Elam’s quote.

For a detailed look at the homophobia of Anne Cools, another speaker at the conference, see here.

Big thanks to everyone who helped with the video!

 

 

 

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Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
10 years ago

I miss the old trolls. The out there ones. The ‘divide America down the Mississippi and put women on one side and men on the other ones. The ‘all sex acts should be recorded and filed with a central government agency as a precaution against false rape allegations’ ones. The bizarre, wacky ones.The current batch are pure defensiveness and soooo boring with their tortuous circular nonsense. Hell, even someguyboredwithyourschtick at least had a theme that he stuck to.

Now its all ‘say something defensive about the MRA, get taken apart, get defensive about self, dig hole deeper until banned.’ Yawn.

kittehserf
10 years ago

Marie – only if you’re Mr Gumby.

http://youtu.be/o7Ixe95CZOE

Auntie Alias
Auntie Alias
10 years ago

Help, Police! I’m being oppressed!

dustedeste
dustedeste
10 years ago

Omg, going to the police to deal with oppression? I’mma be over here, laughing my way into next week. Like really, wth, is England ON MARS now or something? Or in Bizarro World, maybe?

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@ELIZABETH

@Marie and I’m not saying you should be nice to your oppresser at all. I am talking about the feminist movement only not dealing with oppressors, I would have thought going to the police or smth would be the way to deal with being oppressed but obviously I’m no expert and I’m not trying to be. I’m just talking about how the feminist movement could achieve gender equality fastest.

okay, guys, I’m 2 panic pills today, thats a lot of drugs, does this make any sense to the non-judgement impaired?

kittehserf
10 years ago

I would have thought going to the police or smth would be the way to deal with being oppressed but obviously I’m no expert and I’m not trying to be.

LOL LOL oh fuck that’s moronic even by troll standards.

Oppression isn’t about lawbreaking, you idiot. Bullshit you were ever a feminist when you don’t even know what the goddamn word means.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

Elizabeth

In the past I have tried to be nice to people and sometimes it doesn’t do any good. There were times that I to deal with people who shout and were just plain rude but I always kept calm and told them off and they backed away and other times I had to get in their face and tell them what their doing is wrong.

No matter what I did I get different reactions because everybody is different you don’t know what you’re going to expect. It’s random. But the best you could do is stand up for others and yourself don’t let them walk over you or others, be the bigger person and let them know that their behavior is NOT acceptable!

kittehserf
10 years ago

Help, Police! I’m being oppressed!

Because I Have To

http://youtu.be/l8ukak8P2vY

elizabeth
elizabeth
10 years ago

@Auntie Alias

(example of things MRA said)
“Nothing wrong with masturbation Alias. Maybe give it a shot.

There is nothing wrong with knocking the shit out of someone who assaults you. Women don’t get some kind of magical pass on this due to their gender. Maybe you should quit assuming men will give you a pass on violence and stop beating them if you have a problem with it.”

“Do you think being nice to these charmers is going to result in a happy chorus of Kumbaya?”

Honestly Auntie Alias you’re going to think I’m crazy but yes genuinely that is what I think, maybe not immediately, but have you tried that? honestly take me seriously pls I bet you I could handle the situation and get them onside in minutes.

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
10 years ago

Wait, no I stand corrected. ‘Oppression is best left to the police to deal with’ is sufficiently wacky. My faith in trolling is restored!

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@#lizabeth

sorry you are beign a jerk and you also don’t know how mras work your fucking ignorant.

sorry guys my second panic pill Juuuussssttttt hiiittttt meeee so I may be making less sense than usuall but can I still poke trollplz it will make me happy? 😀

dustedeste
dustedeste
10 years ago

I mean normally I’m left wondering whether our trolls have ever talked to an actual woman, but elizabeth here’s got me wondering whether they’ve ever talked to an actual fucking HUMAN.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Ffs Elizabeth. We told a troll to stop using ableist words and he called us names. Hateful people don’t return niceness.

Why are you still here?

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

I shall call the troll Ann Elk from now on:

brooked
brooked
10 years ago

This may sound off the wall, but I like to focus on expressing actual thoughts, ideas and arguments, rather than obsessing over niceness, when I discuss things like feminism and oppression. That’s why I need to get off this thread before I die of boredom. I don’t think this is Erin because he wasn’t this mind numbing, in fact feel a little nostalgic for that chicken loving feminist hero of lore.

I’ll check on this thread in the morning and suspect that elizabeth will still be here explaining how it’s nice to be nice to the nice.

dustedeste
dustedeste
10 years ago

GO FOR IT MARIE, ZE’S FROM MARS ANYWAYS

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

Elizabeth

“I would have thought going to the police or smth would be the way to deal with being oppressed but obviously I’m no expert and I’m not trying to be.”

Maybe you should look up ‘Oppression’ at a library (not the internet) if you don’t know much about it.

kittehserf
10 years ago

For fuck’s sake – go read those MRA blogs, “Elizabeth”. Go read what Elam & co want to do to us – and to YOU, if you’re really a woman – simply for existing while female. Go on, see if you really think being all sweetness and light is going to change the minds of men who want to own and hurt us without even the minimal comeback from the law they now face.

Are you really so naive/stupid you think it’s okay to expect women to be nice to men who do not think we are human?

dustedeste
dustedeste
10 years ago

Oh, oops, capslocked! My bad!

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@weirdwoodtreehugger

b/c if elizabeth doens’t stay how will she know that we are

f i failed that sentence

I can’t tpe atm.

because how will WE know that SHE thinks WE are big meanies.

big meanies if only we could fejminist like elizabeth hwo is erin could .

then we weould solve this gneder oppression thing.

sorry for the spelling this is harder when loopy

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

England is totes Mars! How dare you doubt Elizabeth’s words of wisdom? When I lived in London I used to call the cops and tell them that I was being oppressed every day. OK, so they laughed at me, and then after a while they would just say “it’s that girl again” and then hang up on me, but hey, the principle is sound.

Also, have a song.

kittehserf
10 years ago

Marie – poke the troll! Want a sharp stick to do it with?

Or is it time for number ninja?

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elizabeth
elizabeth
10 years ago

(I thought you meant oppression as in the R word, my mistake)

elizabeth
elizabeth
10 years ago

no way :O cassandra eg?

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@dustedeste

GO FOR IT MARIE, ZE’S FROM MARS ANYWAYS

yayaaa!!!! 😀 fun things to do while loopy!

@fruitloopsie

Maybe you should look up ‘Oppression’ at a library (not the internet) if you don’t know much about it.

Or a good 101 site. There are good sites on teh internet for thisstuff just that googling and clicking yahoo answers istn’ good.

also ur name is cute. Is it creepyto say that? I didn’t noitce until I took highly controlled substances.

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