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#EndFathersDay: Trolls being trolls, or "black propaganda" designed to tear apart feminism?

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Not actual feminist

You all got the memo about #EndFathersDay fiasco, right – the phony “feminist” hashtag, seeded and spread by 4chan trolls, that aroused so much consternation on Twitter the other day, and that took in so many who’re already given to thinking the worst about feminism?

It would be nice if we could just dismiss this whole thing as trolls being trolls – no harm, no foul. But there’s a bit more to it than that.

For one thing, the troll campaign worked. At least on some people: While feminist writers quickly rushed in to point out that the whole thing was an antifeminist hoax, more than a few in the right-wing media were taken in utterly.

On the National Review Online, Molly Wharton warned that “Twitter anti-fatherists” were taking aim at a holiday that they said “glorifies rape, patriarchy, and child abuse.” The Washington Examiner railed against #EndFathersDay as “the latest ridiculous hashtag from the feminist outrage machine.”

On Fox News’ Fox & Friends, antifeminist author and “Princeton Mom” Susan Patton went further:

They’re not just interested in ending Father’s Day, they’re interested in ending men. …That’s really what they want.

A similar warning came from the self-proclaimed leader of the self-proclaimed Men’s Human Rights Movement:

https://twitter.com/AVoiceForMen/status/477679872761135104

The Daily Caller tried to play it a bit cooler, acknowledging that the phony campaign had started with 4chan but contending that “feminists quickly picked it up and ran with it.”

The evidence? The alarmists cited tweets like this one, from “Phoebe Kwon” a self-proclaimed “Lesbian, Korean American, Feminist” from “San Fransico.” [sic]

https://twitter.com/PhoebeKwon/statuses/477262894552195072

Kwon was also responsible for this charmingly subtle Tweet – I’m not sure how the right-wingers missed this one.

https://twitter.com/PhoebeKwon/status/477294012492431362

Had any of these commentators looked closely at the “outrageous” tweets cited as evidence of this feminist anti-fatherite uprising they might have figured out that something was up: They all seemed to come from a tiny handful of Twitter accounts, most with only a few followers, many of them festooned with elaborate Social Justice Warrioresque self descriptions, like this one, from @CisHate11

Polyamorous Pansexual Otherkin (faerie), Marxist Misandrist. Fucker of the patriarchy. I majored in womyns studies and procrastination

Phoebe Kwon, one of the most-quoted of all the alleged anti-fatherites, not only spelled the name of her alleged home city wrong; as one We Hunted the Mammoth reader pointed out to me, her avatar was actually a stock photo:

Phoebe Kwon, feminist Tweeter
Phoebe Kwon, feminist Tweeter
Phoebe Kwon, stock photo model
Phoebe Kwon, stock photo model

And, oh yeah, 4channers – at least those in on the joke – have acknowledged her as one of their own.

As the Daily Dot noted, this was not the first time 4channers had angered the gullible and annoyed real feminists with a fake feminist #hashtag campaign. In January they got some traction with a phony “thinspo” campaign “BikiniBridge,” celebrating what one Tumblr blog called “the graceful space created by a woman’s hip bones suspending bikini bottoms from their abdomens.”

This was followed by the even more ridiculous Operation Freebleeding, which denounced tampons and sanitary pads and all devices used to staunch the flow of menstrual blood as tools of the patriarchy.

So, some trolls trolled some people. Big deal right?

Well, not exactly. Because this isn’t just trolling for the sake of trolling. This is trolling with an agenda.

If you scroll back through “Phoebe Kwon’s” tweets, you’ll see that “her” account originated back in August of 2013, in the midst of a Twitterstorm around the hashtag #SolidarityIsForWhiteWomen. While that hashtag was a real one, started and promoted by feminist/womanist women of color to critique white allies (and “allies”), 4channers jumped into the fray with fake Twitter accounts in an attempt to poison the discussion and further divide feminists along racial lines.

“Kwon” and other faux accounts also jumped into the more recent #YesAllWomen hashtag with deliberately and sometimes ridiculously inflammatory tweets.

https://twitter.com/PhoebeKwon/status/367766686503407616

https://twitter.com/PhoebeKwon/status/367460519776485376

The trolls behind these campaigns aren’t just trolls out to create chaos, though they are that. They’re also racist, homophobic, transphobic bigots out to fuck over feminism.

Indeed, a few months ago, a writer for Roosh Valizadeh’s Return of Kings blog who goes only by Douglas reported that he’d gotten a mysterious message from someone called “Bavarian,” who told him that 4chan’s antifeminist campaigns were all part of something called “Operation Lollipop,” a “black propaganda” campaign to fracture feminism. Bavarian wrote:

I was told you are interested in my group’s (Codename: Lollipop) ongoing operation against the PoOs (People of Oppression). My group poses as feminists on twitter. We bait other PoOs into agreeing with us as we subtly move them more and more to the extreme. The purpose is to make moderate feminists turned off with the movement, as well as cause infighting within the group. …

We manly pose as women of color and argue with white feminists. We “check their privilege” to the point that they are fed up. For example, if they say “it’s not our time to talk, white ladies, it’s our time to listen,” we say “the last time white women just listened, George Zimmerman walked free.”

The campaign began during Hugo Schwyzer’s public meltdown, which Bavarian described as filtered through his own racist lens:

This group started when the hashtag #solidarityisforwhitewomen started trending. It referred to an incident where the feminist Hugo Schwartz [sic] had a mental breakdown and revealed on twitter that feminism was a fraud. He further revealed that WoC were incompetent and only got in the way of the movement. Some white women offered him sympathy and told him to get help. The WoC got angry and started the hashtag.

Bavarian pointed him to a page documenting the phony tweets, many of which come from the same accounts that posted the most outrageous #EndFathersDay tweets. (The site he linked to is now down, but this blog, still available through the Wayback Machine, appears to be some sort of mirror.)

Douglas, for his part, was delighted by the deviousness of it all.

I can only imagine the chaos such an operation would wreak upon the feminists. I look forward to seeing how it all works out. Maybe it will cause the level of mistrust to skyrocket to levels that would hinder the feminist machine. Maybe it will give me more things to laugh at on the internet. All I know is this concept is quite dastardly and funny.

It’s all a bit ridiculously cloak and dagger, but I don’t think we can dismiss it as a joke. The people behind it are trolls, sure, but they are also nasty bigots obsessed with fucking up feminism and “progressives” in general. And people still get fooled by these campaigns.

Now that we know what they’re up to, the trolls may find it harder to fool quite so many people in the future. They may keep trying, to lesser and lesser effect. Or they might come up with something a bit more sophisticated. I guess we’ll see.

EDITED TO ADD:  Check out the Twitter hashtag #YourSlipIsShowing, devoted to exposing these fake accounts; so far they’ve IDed 200 or so. This Storify is useful, too.

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thehazelbee
10 years ago

This strikes me as classic abuser behavior, namely gaslighting, on a larger scale and via social media.

fromafar2013
10 years ago

@ sparky

I can understand his confusion. Both feminism and GOT are totally awesome. Easy to get mixed up. /snark

saintnick86
10 years ago

So, I shared this article online and a “friend” of mine on Facebook decided to reply. As you may be able to tell – he doesn’t know what he’s fucking talking about. Well, that and he’s completely disingenuous in his claims (especially since they contradict each other):

Over thinking it. Feminism is doing just fine IRL DESPITE online ‘feminism’ thankfully. Go ask your friends, co students/workers, or other people who don’t hang out online about this and nobody will know what the fuck you’re talking about. FFS, we in the US are gearing up to elect our first female president. Who cares that a bunch of gender studies refugees got trolled. Trolled well I might add. This article is a great example of the paranoia resulting from dwelling in the identity politics bunker too long.

[…]

Oh man, Futrelle really wandered off the reservation into Tinfoilville with this one. I thought he was smarter than that. Thinking 4chan are anti feminist political operatives is just fucking ridiculous. I especially liked the unsourced and unverifiable ‘Deep Throat’ Futrelle is trying to push as a smoking gun. He doesn’t fucking get it or he’s purposely trying to paint 4chan as an MRA black ops unit. It’s just more proof that online ‘activism’ is a fucking joke.

Funny how he claims it is “paranoid” one moment, only to then admit it was trolling…just to go back to claiming it is “paranoia”. He also seems incapable of clicking on links within the articles, since he thinks those cited sources were “unverifiable.”

It’s also quite bewildering that he derides it all pointless, though he personally loves to get into fights online – as was the case with this response.

…I don’t know why I bother going on Facebook anymore…

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Oh dear, Renee and banshee. You’re not exactly covering your side of the political spectrum in glory with that kindergarten-level political analysis.

LBT (with writeathon poll!)

RE: WWTH

This hashtag is really insulting for those of us feminists who have loving relationships with our fathers. I think my dad would be to surprised to find out I must hate him because I’m a feminist.

It’s also insulting to the feminists who DO have shitty relationships with their fathers. I didn’t leave my family because I’m a feminist; I left them because they ignore the mass amount of rape going on! Not gonna lie, I try and ignore Mother and Father’s Day as hard as I can, but for once, my politics have nothing to do with it. I don’t need to be a feminist to notice when folks are hazardous to my health.

RE: itsabeast

If it causes online feminists to be more wary about extreme comments from other feminists, maybe that’s not such a bad thing.

*raised eyebrow* You mean we aren’t already?

RE: Janet

Self parody, David. Self parody.

Incoherent non sequitur, Janet. Incoherent non sequitur.

RE: banshee

You act like everyone can get married. I will never be able to legally marry my husband, and I’m not particularly interested in legally marrying some random dude for economic reasons. (Because being trans means I can ONLY legally marry men in my state.)

Ally S
10 years ago

Men are our husbands, fathers and sons.

:: disappears into nothingness due to having an extremely shitty father, a complete lack of attraction to men, and a lack of any male children ::

katz
10 years ago

I bought a man crusher a few months ago. Now I have man smoothies every morning. I like them with some flax seed and bee pollen.

fluffypeony
10 years ago

I am reminded of how often very conservative members of my family breathlessly forward me emails with subject lines such as “Atheists want to ban Thanksgiving!” “Obama wants to ban the National Anthem!” etc. Being the known liberal of the family, I am forwarded these because my family members believe that they’ve finally provided a “gotcha!” that will make me do the Hokey Pokey until I turn myself around to their political point of view. Usually, I just respond with a link to Snopes’ issue page and hope that maybe they’ll bother to check some sort of reference before forwarding the next such email to me and others. Each time I respond, I think that perhaps pointing out the truth will help them to be less gullible, or give loopy conspiracies less credence. But I swear their gullibility is an armor, protecting them from reality and impervious to any facts. And it’s not exactly their fault; studies have shown that we tend to believe falsehoods that fit our views even when the (contradictory) truth is shown to us, and, in fact, providing the truth about an issue (infuriatingly) cements the belief in the untruth.

I once talked with my mother about this, why does she so readily accept mass-forwarded nonsensical emails as true? She said that she just trusts stories like this, it makes sense that they would be true based upon what she knows about atheists/ethnic group X/liberals/Obama. I get that we all tend to restrict information (and its sources) to those which will most closely align with our opinions and views, but haven’t we learned of the damage such restrictions can cause? Stories on far-right channels and websites routinely, and cynically, offer up such red-meat stories to their willingly gullible audience. Most of the time, the red meat is just a red herring.

Not sure who I’m more angry at: 4chan’s band of merry misogynistic trolls, the MRA who ate it up and spit it back at us, or news venues exploiting their audiences’ trust. Slimy lot, all of them. I offer them my scornful derision!

LBT (with writeathon poll!)

Ah, confirmation bias. My FAVORITE bias. (And also why I tend to be more comfortable with people who admit they know jack-all about multi, rather than those pains in the ass who took one psych course in college and now know everything.) I try to circumvent it in myself, but am never sure if I’m doing it properly…

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Maybe I should buy one of those man crushers too. My wood chipper is getting a little broken down because it wasn’t made to eat men.

fluffypeony
10 years ago

I have a tiny kitchen and don’t know where I’d put a ManCrusher ™. Will a mortar and pestle do the job?

Lids
10 years ago

I need a man crusher too, just not sure where to buy one. I desperately need one, my blender just doesn’t puree them quite right, and my man and banana smoothies have been a bit chunky lately.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
10 years ago

Manana smoothies? I like the sound of that….

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Oh the ironing in itsabeast’s comment. Every time some trolling dude and/or nice conservative lady attempts to impersonate a feminist, feminists notice that there’s something off about them and call them out. Other dudes/conservative ladies, otoh, fall for it every damn time. So apparently y’all are really good at fooling yourselves, but not so good at fooling us.

(And yes, it’s the “wait, what that person just said was fucking ridiculous” that outs you, every time.)

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

If you have a child and separate from the father, do you get to trade in your mancrusher for a manmeatgrinder?

katz
10 years ago

I have a tiny kitchen and don’t know where I’d put a ManCrusher ™. Will a mortar and pestle do the job?

I used a mortar and pestle before I got the ManCrusher. It worked fine but it just took so long and was so much effort. Also it tends to absorb flavors a bit so if you were, say, crushing garlic in it earlier, your man smoothies might taste garlicky.

leftwingfox
10 years ago

Gaebolga: Having PowerThirst flashbacks now.

LBT (with writeathon poll!)

I’m still boggled that someone would try and defend the good name of the Tea Party. Seriously, that party can take care of itself.

emilygoddess
10 years ago

LBT, IKR? And I’d live to see the evidence that it was just “infiltrators” trying to make them look bad. Was Glenn Beck one of them? Was Glenn Beck secretly a liberal!?!?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Glenn Beck is a super seekrit radical feminist operative. True fax. He reports to the ghost of Andrea Dworkin via ouija board daily.

fluffypeony
10 years ago

Smiling at katz! Now, if I were to get a Wesley Crusher, would it only crush Wesleys or will it work on any junior Starfleet member?

marinerachel
marinerachel
10 years ago

Does Glenn Beck exist any longer? I feel like he’s a character that’s lost it’s efficacy, been retired.

fluffypeony
10 years ago

If you listen to the audio format of any Glenn Beck book backwards, you’ll hear radical feminist propaganda! S’truth.

LBT (with writeathon poll!)

RE: emilygoddess

Was Glenn Beck secretly a liberal!?!?

Well, he sure fooled me! *gag*