Sometimes I wonder if we’re being unfair to Men’s Rights Activists by allowing them to handle their own publicity. I mean, it’s pretty clear that they’re terrible at it. Worse than terrible, really. Terribler. Possibly the terriblest.
I mean, just this week we saw the official social media director of A Voice for Men’s conference in Detroit announcing the conference’s new venue with this:
https://twitter.com/JudgyBitch1/statuses/476822883881459712
Bloomfield now claims this was her attempt to “troll” people like you and me by tweeting what I guess she’s now saying is a thoroughly awful fake quote which for some reason she has decided to attribute to a real person. This makes so little sense by normal human standards that I find this explanation a little hard to believe — but I guess I’m just getting trolled by my own skepticism? Oh, Judgy Bitch, you got me!
https://twitter.com/JudgyBitch1/statuses/476822883881459712
Whoops! I guess I got trolled a third time!
And … oh, for a second there I thought I was going to be trolled again, but I stood firm. For now.
Anyway, all this is just a long intro for some Actual Authentic I Didn’t Make These Up Honest to Goodness Men’s Rights Memes that I discovered on the blog of someone named Francis Roy, an MRA, an AVFM fan, and a bit of a meme enthusiast. The somewhat baffling meme at the top of this post? One of his best.
Which is to say, his memes basically suck, even by meme standards.
If a picture is worth a thousand words, these are all overvalued by at least 997 words. You can find them all in the meme section of his blog, though, be warned, he also posts a lot of graphic and disturbing pictures of dead soldiers and circumcised babies and other horrible things. (Note to MRAs: a lot of feminists, like me, are also troubled by and/or opposed to circumcision. Instead of derailing every discussion of female genital mutilation and alienating potential allies, you might try taking your message to the public at large?)
Anyway, let’s get to the memes. Note: A couple are mildly NSFW.
Here we learn that divorced mothers who have custody of the children are really just keeping them in order to enjoy all that sweet-ass child support cash!
Note: custodial parents who’ve been awarded child support actually receive, on average, about $300 per month. You can almost buy an XboxOne for that! Or, you know, you can try to feed and clothe and care for a child. And pay for child care, and babysitters, and doctor’s visits, and toys, and, you know, shelter. Huh. $300 actually doesn’t sound like that much.
Frankly as a money-making proposition, “stealing me for daddy’s money” seems like kind of a bust.
But let’s just move on to this fine meme, which as far as I can figure it is some sort of attack on underwear models:
Really? Hath not an underwear model eyes? Hath not an underwear model hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions? If you prick an underwear model, do they not bleed? Does blood not run down their smooth, tight abs?
Pretty sure it does. Seriously. Underwear models need to eat, too! Well, maybe not as much as I do, but come on! Stop the hate!
Oh, did I mention that Mr. Roy apparently considers himself a Man Going His Own Way?
Yeah, let’s just move on.
Lol wut
Oh, come on!
I’m not even a Christian, but, seriously?
I’m going to post two quotes here. One will be from Jesus. The other from a rather well-known Man Going His Own Way. See if you can tell the difference.
Here’s the first quote. See if you can tell if this is Jesus, or MGTOW elder Christopher in Oregon.
Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
Here’s the other quote:
I’m going to be blunt. Have you ever smelled a vagina? Seriously. I mean in it’s natural, unwashed state? Really stuck your nose right down there and taken a deep breath?
Once.
My G-d. The stench could have knocked a buzzard off a shit wagon at fifty paces. To this day I swear there was a cloud of flies buzzing around that portal of doom. Sometimes when riding my Harley-Beasties around the rural roads here in Oregon, I encounter dead skunks. Road kill. We have a lot of them here, and when they’ve been baking in the summer sun, you can smell them a long way off even at sixty miles per hour.
Vaginas tend to be even nastier.
SPOILER ALERT: The first quote was the one from Jesus.
Let’s see what else Mr. Roy has got.
Wait, is that one of Mr. Roy’s memes, or did I just accidentally post a pic from my extensive collection of FemDom porn?
By which I mean, yes that was one of his memes and forget what I said about that other stuff.
Ok, one more.
Yaaagh!
Sorry, I didn’t mean to spring that on you. Hopefully you weren’t eating.
But in the unlikely event that you would like to print out your own high-quality color poster of a glowering Paul Elam to hang over your bed, or wherever you hang such pictures, I’ve got some good news for you! Mr. Roy has helpfully provided a downloadable pdf version!
All of the above graphics are by Francis Roy and under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License.
BWAHAHAHA Anarchonist, I tell you, it came as a shock seeing this pic in colour the first time – goodness knows if it was painted that way (could be, given both Louis and de Champaigne were pretty modest), but I’m scratching my head over his toes showing like that if he’s wearing hose. I wish he wasn’t, a glimpse of leg is always welcome …
He’s superhero enough for me, anyway. As for tights … well, we’d better not go there. 😉
thewatchingdog, thank you!
Elan!
::blushes::
@Kittehs
Thanks for the info! Always hard to tell. Did seriously consider something lovelock-y when still attached to my very long hair post-high school but just went for a shoulder-length thingo. First heard of the option while looking up who the hell the Charles I my deputy principal (rather unkindly, in retrospect) told me I looked like.
I do still tell anyone who asks why I keep long hair and a long moustache that it’s to complement my cavalier attitude. . .
And now I desperately want to see a photo of lowquacks, because that combination sounds awesome.
Do you own pirate-style boots or a pirate-style shirt as well?
Lowquacks Montoya has a nice ring to it..
No, but I have been mistaken for Spanish by actual Spaniards a few times if that helps. Dad’s very ethnically ambiguous-looking and it rubbed off on me. Moustache recently had a trimming accident and is now probably best pitched as “what if Stalin did porn”, and is hidden in a beard right now, so I don’t know if I can live up to expectations.
Be careful, pallygirl! Last time lowquacks showed a pic of himself Argenti and I had to exile ourselves to the corner of shame after “would stare at cavalier-styled person in public” confessions.
::snerk:: Well if Stalin had done porn, we know he’d have looked fairly good in it, going from the Young Hunk Stalin pics.
I saw a website the other day that was all about “why is it that so many dreadful genocidal dictators were so HOT when they were young?” 😛
He was short, too, which apparently is something casting types go for because, well, other things look bigger in comparison.
Dictatorial or pseudo-dictatorial types who looked good when young – not as familiar with the right-wing or pre-20th-century ones, but really only Che and Stalin come to mind. Who else?
Delurking briefly to participate in poodle gushing. Their intelligence has come up quite a bit, but they can also be pretty badass. My parents took an adult off of the hands of a family who wasn’t able to cope with her energy levels, and it didn’t take her long to clear a family of possums out of the woodpile. She would have brought one of their corpses inside as a trophy if we’d have let her. The poodles they have now haven’t had as much success exterminating the squirrels that pop in the backyard from time to time, but it certainly isn’t for lack of trying. Yeah, I’m really not going to be insulted by someone calling me a poodle.
They’re such lovely dogs! And I say this as someone who is really not a dog person. Fluffy ears are probably the best bit.
The more I hear about poodles, the more impressed I am!
lowquacks – surprisingly enough Bin Laden, Ceaucescu, Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein all made the list.
There are a few sites about this … why am I not surprised. :eyeroll:
Well, well … the pic of young Stalin is everywhere, but I haven’t seen the matching one (I presume they’re mugshots) of him in profile. Damn, he looks even better there. What a pity the inside was so rank …
http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxyu2fzniE1r9qdpio1_500.jpg
bin Laden and Hussein I understand, I guess. (G/Qu/K)addaffi has always been an odd-looking dude to my eyes, though.
@Kittehs
Maybe it’s just me, but you should see the moustachioed pics of the dude in his bank-robbing days! Or the later smirking mugshot with the moustache and beard.
. . . I had a friend who literally took the “hunky Stalin” pic to the hairdresser’s with him. Turned out pretty well, really.
I’ve seen one mugshot of him with just the mo – he looks older than this one and has started to get that beady-eyed look, but he’s still not bad looking. Must find the other ones.
The pic they use of Gaddaffi is this one – he doesn’t do anything for me but I can see that yeah, I guess he could be called good-looking.
http://www.sickchirpse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/young-gaddaffi-hot.jpg
But later! Yeesh, he looked like he was starring in The Mummy in some shots.
Oh, a whole Stalin style gallery. :{
http://www.thebookshop.ie/ekmps/shops/bookshop/images/sebag-montefiore-simon-br-young-stalin-%5B2%5D-7639-p.jpg
Okay, I am a bad person. This made me laugh aloud.
LOL oh I am a bad person too.
lowquacks, you sound badass, in a really nice way.
Young Gaddafi looks like Yuri Geller, or is that just me?
Oh good, it’s not just me then. 😛
It’s so long since I looked at a pic of Uri Geller, I had to go check! But yeah, there was a resemblence when he was young – he was better looking though, I think (the hair helps).
http://disinfo.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/uri_geller.jpg
David, I am not seeing many mra trolls on here. i am rather seeing a lot of aficionados of your blog trolling and writing useless, extremely juvenile stuff like there was no tomorrow.
i am also seeing someone like you, with your profile, trying to clearly put mra, and avfm, in the same place with PUAs??! Are you serious? This is extremely irresponsible. this is the kind of stuff that then goes on to generate hatred and trolls.
PUAs are just one huge freak of nature and a bad sad joke, one of the many examples of hatred in disguise operating at large in this fucked up world, just like there are opposite examples of hatred coming from women towards men. so what?! everybody knows that, and they deserve to be left to their own sad state.
But how would you react if a supporter of human rights labelled together the good causes of feminism with a nasty, pathetic, vile female men balls severing -hater, in a place as recognised and “official” as your blog?
It’s high time to stop this irresponsible, dangerous attitude. This is brewing and fostering hatred.
” find a lot of it in what’s called the “manosphere,” a loose collection of Men’s Rights, Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW), and Pickup Artist (PUA) sites. “
My child support award was less than $500 per month for four children. Not for each child, for the whole batch of them. Which went unpaid for years, so that eventually (after more years) the state had to go after him. Then again, I had a friend with two children who received over 1K per month in spite of having remarried a physician’s assistant. So there seems to be some discretion in the courts.
@scarlettpipstrelle,
wow, 125$ per children, per month is a very small amount of money. I don’t have kids, but even I grasp that choosing to divorce is not a decision a mother makes for financial reasons. The whole premise of the MRA that women divorcing do so for greedy motivations falls apart when looking at the difference between a two incomes household versus a one income household supplemented by child support.
Yeah, Isabelle, it’s like the MRAs can’t do math. My ex even moved out, left our children with me, and simultaneously cut off my access to all our joint accounts. Seeing as how he married me insisting that I be a “prairie muffin” type wife and not work outside the home, this put me in a bind. I consulted with an attorney, who informed me that according to state law, the only way I could do anything about this would be to file for divorce or legal separation and get a support order. I discretely consulted with social workers, and learned that if the children were harmed by deprivation, I would be held equally responsible and they would examine whether I had really done all I could. So, I pretty much had to initiate legal proceedings. He had already moved out and begun dating long before the legal papers arrived. Of course, he tells a different story – but I have our legal file and the older children’s memories to back up my side of things. Of course it’s all moot now. Everybody’s grown up. (Except him)
My mom was raped by her college teacher I don’t know how many times because I found that she had a miscarriage before me, and when she was pregent with me she took him to court.
For 8 years he got visits and that’s when he abuses me. my mom hired private investigators and guardians on my visits everything that she could and he’s still not in jail after all the evidence. He pays about $600-700 a month. Finally I had the right to choose to see him or not.
He would get everyone on his side of the family involved and one of the them has even sent a threat to my mom that she will take me away from her. They talk to me as if they knew everything about me but they hardly ever been in my life. My father is a real sociopath, he lies and he guilts me and my family.
When I see these mras complain about child custody and what not, I see my father and I really want to seriously pulverize them. I know I shouldn’t but that’s how I feel. I mean seriously my da- nightmare didn’t go to jail after all the evidence after everything! What makes them think that all it takes for a woman to take a man to jail is just by saying so!? It’s because they are abusers they have the sad that they can’t control them anymore. That exactly how my nightmare is.
I don’t hate him I’v forgiven him God has really helped me to get out more to be with family and friends and to meet people as well. I’m even starting to build a relationship with my half brother on my ‘sperm donor’s’ side of the family. I’m finally at peace and so is my family.
Ire
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-66Pb7yeqnuE/Tx6krbeWaNI/AAAAAAAAA0c/occSLSkqeCw/s1600/1-cute-animal-hugs-4-6-7-8-9-3-2-5-4-2-3-7-5-4-1.png
That’s terrible Fruitloopsie. Hugs and a basket of the furrinati of your choice to you.
There’s nothing wrong with feeling this way. The MRAs often do defend abusers. In their eyes being a man makes you automatically right.
One of their heroes is that guy who self immolated at a courthouse because he was denied custody and forced to pay child support. Do they care that he was denied custody because he punched his toddler daughter? Not one bit. I’m sorry I’m a brain fart and forgetting his name.
If I was a man and I got a woman pregnant I would help her and her children as much as I possibly can. Me and that woman made that child/children so we are going to raise them together because its hard work and a beautiful experience.
I can’t understand how anyone could abandon their children and simply not care about them.
Thanks WWTH
“One of their heroes is that guy who self immolated at a courthouse because he was denied custody and forced to pay child support. Do they care that he was denied custody because he punched his toddler daughter? Not one bit. I’m sorry I’m a brain fart and forgetting his name.”
Thomas Bell?
That last one…I know Paul thinks the MRM is all about him, but apparently his followers do too? That cult theory is looking more and more plausible.
Mikey sure is obsessed with David. But I’m sure he’s totally not threatened at all, nosirree.
Look, it’s just really important that he remind you how unmanly you are. How else is he supposed to shore up his own fragile masculinity?
Also: Oy, with the poodles already!
Correct. I know Argenti already told you this, but I’m just so excited to be someone’s go-to person <3