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"Stealing me for daddy’s money hurts me too," and other nuggets of wisdom from some dude’s MRA memes

Woah, dude, that's like ... incomprehensible.
Woah, dude, that’s like … incomprehensible.

Sometimes I wonder if we’re being unfair to Men’s Rights Activists by allowing them to handle their own publicity. I mean, it’s pretty clear that they’re terrible at it. Worse than terrible, really. Terribler. Possibly the terriblest.

I mean, just this week we saw the official social media director of A Voice for Men’s conference in Detroit announcing the conference’s new venue with this:

https://twitter.com/JudgyBitch1/statuses/476822883881459712

Bloomfield now claims this was her attempt to “troll” people like you and me by tweeting what I guess she’s now saying is a thoroughly awful fake quote which for some reason she has decided to attribute to a real person. This makes so little sense by normal human standards that I find this explanation a little hard to believe — but I guess I’m just getting trolled by my own skepticism? Oh, Judgy Bitch, you got me!

https://twitter.com/JudgyBitch1/statuses/476822883881459712

Whoops! I guess I got trolled a third time!

And … oh, for a second there I thought I was going to be trolled again, but I stood firm. For now.

Anyway, all this is just a long intro for some Actual Authentic I Didn’t Make These Up Honest to Goodness Men’s Rights Memes that I discovered on the blog of someone named Francis Roy, an MRA, an AVFM fan, and a bit of a meme enthusiast. The somewhat baffling meme at the top of this post? One of his best.

Which is to say, his memes basically suck, even by meme standards.

If a picture is worth a thousand words, these are all overvalued by at least 997 words. You can find them all in the meme section of his blog, though, be warned, he also posts a lot of graphic and disturbing pictures of dead soldiers and circumcised babies and other horrible things. (Note to MRAs: a lot of feminists, like me, are also troubled by and/or opposed to circumcision. Instead of derailing every discussion of female genital mutilation and alienating potential allies, you might try taking your message to the public at large?)

Anyway, let’s get to the memes. Note: A couple are mildly NSFW.

Here we learn that divorced mothers who have custody of the children are really just keeping them in order to enjoy all that sweet-ass child support cash!

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Note: custodial parents who’ve been awarded child support actually receive, on average, about $300 per month. You can almost buy an XboxOne for that! Or, you know, you can try to feed and clothe and care for a child. And pay for child care, and babysitters, and doctor’s visits, and toys, and, you know, shelter. Huh. $300 actually doesn’t sound like that much.

Frankly as a money-making proposition, “stealing me for daddy’s money” seems like kind of a bust.

But let’s just move on to this fine meme, which as far as I can figure it is some sort of attack on underwear  models:

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Really? Hath not an underwear model eyes? Hath not an underwear model hands, organs, dimensions, senses, affections, passions? If you prick an underwear model, do they not bleed? Does blood not run down their smooth, tight abs?

Pretty sure it does. Seriously. Underwear models need to eat, too! Well, maybe not as much as I do, but come on! Stop the hate!

Oh, did I mention that Mr. Roy apparently considers himself a Man Going His Own Way?

 

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Yeah, let’s just move on.

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Lol wut

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Oh, come on!

I’m not even a Christian, but, seriously?

I’m going to post two quotes here. One will be from Jesus. The other from a rather well-known Man Going His Own Way. See if you can tell the difference.

Here’s the first quote. See if you can tell if this is Jesus, or MGTOW elder Christopher in Oregon.

Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Here’s the other quote:

I’m going to be blunt. Have you ever smelled a vagina? Seriously. I mean in it’s natural, unwashed state? Really stuck your nose right down there and taken a deep breath?

Once.

My G-d. The stench could have knocked a buzzard off a shit wagon at fifty paces. To this day I swear there was a cloud of flies buzzing around that portal of doom. Sometimes when riding my Harley-Beasties around the rural roads here in Oregon, I encounter dead skunks. Road kill. We have a lot of them here, and when they’ve been baking in the summer sun, you can smell them a long way off even at sixty miles per hour.

Vaginas tend to be even nastier.

SPOILER ALERT: The first quote was the one from Jesus.

Let’s see what else Mr. Roy has got.

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Wait, is that one of Mr. Roy’s memes, or did I just accidentally post a pic from my extensive collection of FemDom porn?

By which I mean, yes that was one of his memes and forget what I said about that other stuff.

Ok, one more.

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Yaaagh!

Sorry, I didn’t mean to spring that on you. Hopefully you weren’t eating.

But in the unlikely event that you would like to print out your own high-quality color poster of a glowering Paul Elam to hang over your bed, or wherever you hang such pictures, I’ve got some good news for you! Mr. Roy has helpfully provided a downloadable pdf version!

All of the above graphics are by Francis Roy and under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License.

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AIT
AIT
7 years ago

1. Find a phrase (not required to be coherent)
2. Find a picture (any will do)
3. ?????
4. PROFIT!!!

Crip Dyke
Crip Dyke
7 years ago

I was eating, thank you very much!

Not anymore….

also?

If you prick an underwear model, …

is now going to be my go-to, nonsensical innuendo of the month.

Puddleglum
7 years ago

Some people should *not* be cartoonized.

Puddleglum
7 years ago

I also liked how he used the word ‘contents’ rather than, you know, ‘people’. Way to dehumanize everyone.

Wait, if everyone’s dehumanized… who’s left?

Shaun Day
Shaun Day
7 years ago

Wow. Just…wow.

Please let them keep representing themselves. It’s the best way to keep others from falling for their poison.

Gaebolga
Gaebolga
7 years ago

Actually, that first meme is surprisingly accurate (completely unintentionally so, of course, but still…). After all, the implication is that we’re looking at the “stars” of men’s privilege but ignoring the vast amount of space that is “not men’s privilege” (I think; possibly it’s supposed to be women’s privilege).

Of course, the thing about space is that it’s almost entirely devoid of anything at all. So it’s basically saying that “not men’s privilege” (or perhaps women’s privilege) is, in fact, nothing.

Way to not make the point you’re trying to make, bunky.

Kootiepatra
Kootiepatra
7 years ago

Hm. I wonder what MGTOWs think of the fact that Jesus had long theological conversations with a woman, let a woman sit at His feet like a disciple, and was good friends with three siblings, two of whom were women. Or how He refused to condemn an accused adulteress. Or how He let a woman with a bad reputation anoint Him, at a fancy meeting of all dudes, no less. Or how He appeared to women first after His resurrection.

Jesus may have remained single, but He was pretty cool with women.

LBT (with writeathon poll!)

I love that this dude’s depiction of “female privilege” is LITERALLY putting a woman on a pedestal.

Pedestals are horribly restrictive places to live, and you invariably fall off. I haven’t met many feminists who ache to be on the damn things; last I checked, the fucking First Wavers a century ago FOUGHT this idea!

Lids
7 years ago

You know, when I want to be taken seriously I don’t post memes to get peoples’ attention. Maybe I just Don’t Understand The Great Burden Of The White Man.

Anyways, I thought memes in general were terrible (well, okay I like farming, asbestos removal, and equestrian memes) , but these pretty much take the cake. Their memes are proof that they can’t even do the simplest thing right.

Also that picture of Elam was very unsettling.

Shaun Day
Shaun Day
7 years ago

Is it just me, or does the anti child support poster imply that MRA’s don’t care if their daughters are “stolen”?

Mike Buchanan
7 years ago

David, thank you. You’re truly the gift that keeps on giving. Even by your standards, your comment on the second meme was a gem:

“But let’s just move on to this fine meme, which as far as I can figure it is some sort of attack on underwear models:”

That’s as far as you can figure it? Why am I not surprised? I’m about to do a blog post linking to this one, and I’ll then put up a live RSS link on my website to your latest 10 posts, so visitors to J4MB can see what male feminists (and their poodles) look like.

Have a nice day.

Mike Buchanan
http://j4mb.org.uk

Luzbelitx
7 years ago

I’ drinking tea and smoking pot.

I might have nightmares about Paul Elam crawling out of the poster in my bedroom. But then again, I there’s always beer:

Luzbelitx
7 years ago

so visitors to BEEP! can see what male feminists (and their poodles) look like.

I thought male feminists were the poodles.

*scratchs head*

The Orginal Sarah
The Orginal Sarah
7 years ago

Mike, please enlighten us, what on earth is he getting at it in that meme?

leftwingfox
7 years ago

I kind of agreed with the underwear one, we aren’t entitled to anything strictly because of our gender.

But then I thought about it. We are ALL entitled to security, regardless of our gender. We’re ALL entitled to happiness, just not at the expense of others. Same with sex, as long as we’re talking masturbation. Money, I think we all should be entitled to as well, at least enough to stay out of poverty. (I’m increasingly sold on the idea of Guaranteed Income).

But of course, the whole point of the MRA is to confuse rights with privileges, so they can claim the privileges they fight for are “rights” and the rights feminists fight for are “privileges”.

The Orginal Sarah
The Orginal Sarah
7 years ago

Mike, please enlighten us. What on earth is that meme supposed to mean?

Chaos-Engineer
Chaos-Engineer
7 years ago

My interpretation of the first poster is that it’s saying, “Yes, men have a vast amount of privilege, but there’s even a greater amount of privilege that they could have but don’t.” The image itself calls one to mind; Men aren’t allowed to travel faster than the speed of light, and all the stars in the picture have been cruelly placed out of their reach.

I think “stealing me for Daddy’s money” is an anti-kidnapping PSA. I’d change “hurts me too” to “hurts Daddy and/or Mommy too”. Obviously the primary victim in kidnappings is the victim. That’s very nearly a tautology.

I’m stumped by Lawnmower Lad, though. Is he gay? Or does he just want to finish his chores before he goes out for malteds? Or maybe he and the girl have a backstory we’re not aware of, and he doesn’t want to talk to her? Either way, he needs to open his eyes and look forwards before he slips and cuts his foot off.

maistrechat
7 years ago

These are some of my favorite posts. They’re like sexist zen koans.

LBT (with writeathon poll!)

Actually, the more I think about the “stealing children” one, the more creeped out I am. I think I mentioned in a different post that one of my neighbors here, his wife actually DID swindle him out of a huge chunk of child support money. She also refuses to take care of the kids and tried to get one of them removed from school. (Thankfully, dude has been able to keep the kids at his house, because. Uh. Did I mention there’s also molestation going on?)

The thing is, she didn’t do this out of “female privilege.” She did this because she’s a TERRIBLE PERSON. They exist. Everything I’ve heard about this woman is that she’s a financially and verbally abusive parent and spouse. But it wasn’t female privilege that got her there, it was her abusive behavior!

RE: Mike Buchanan

You really, REALLY like adding the parenthetical expression (and their poodles), don’t you? Seriously, you do it every time. Do poodles require parentheses all their own? Am I truly that astounding an occurrence?

MaudeLL
7 years ago

I’m amused by the mgtow delusion that women are begging to date them.
I’m also amused that the leader of a small political party spends hours every day in comment sections in a sad attempt to plug his website.

Mitur Binesderti
Mitur Binesderti
7 years ago

You have to wonder why people would be so upset that anyone would want their rights protected, be they female or male.

If you’re upset that anyone stands up for themselves then that’s just you admitting you want to violate their rights.

Ally S
7 years ago

That underwear ad is pretty transphobic. Privilege is determined by genitalia shape? Yeah…no.

Hyena Girl
Hyena Girl
7 years ago

Hey Mike, ever going to answer that question?

maistrechat
7 years ago

I choose to interpret the underwear one as referring to their abdomens. “The contents of your intestines don’t entitle you to special treatment” as an attack on people with food allergies.

bbz
bbz
7 years ago

On the underwear pic, I thought approvingly “That’s right! Having once been granted access to my vagina does not entitle you to sex (continued access to my vagina), security (of a long-term relationship), money (I like to manage mine myself, not let guys cadge it), or happiness”. If your happiness can only be found in my panties, then you might want to re-think the state of your soul. Convincing yourself that your happiness depends on another person granting you sexual favours is a fool’s road.
Not sure what the guy’s underwear pic was about, but hey, I believe in equal rights for men and women, so I’m perfectly fine with it. What I can’t figure out is how this supports the MRA world view. Are the misters just playing cadavres exquis to produce these things?

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
7 years ago

Kootiepatra

“Hm. I wonder what MGTOWs think of the fact that Jesus had long theological conversations with a woman, let a woman sit at His feet like a disciple, and was good friends with three siblings, two of whom were women. Or how He refused to condemn an accused adulteress. Or how He let a woman with a bad reputation anoint Him, at a fancy meeting of all dudes, no less. Or how He appeared to women first after His resurrection.
Jesus may have remained single, but He was pretty cool with women.”

They really need to read the bible. Jesus showed compassion and love to everyone and he didn’t judge them.

LBT

“I love that this dude’s depiction of “female privilege” is LITERALLY putting a woman on a pedestal.
Pedestals are horribly restrictive places to live, and you invariably fall off. I haven’t met many feminists who ache to be on the damn things; last I checked, the fucking First Wavers a century ago FOUGHT this idea!”

IKR We don’t want to be treated like fragile flowers or trash just treat us like human beings! Is it really that hard to do!? And seriously what world does this guy live on? Because sign me up!

Shaun day

“Is it just me, or does the anti child support poster imply that MRA’s don’t care if their daughters are “stolen”?”

I seen little girls in their posters but not in the way that seem like they care.

Das Pink
7 years ago

Mike Buchanan, the underwear comment is obviously a joke and is quite in line with DF’s humor throughout this blog.

Chaos-Engineer
Chaos-Engineer
7 years ago

I couldn’t stop obsessing over Lawnmower Lad, and then I remembered that Google has a “search for similar images” function. I found the original is here: http://au.pfinance.yahoo.com/photos/photo/-/15888681/the-bizarre-world-of-vintage-ads/15888706/. So it’s just that using the lawnmower is more fun than going out for malteds.

Puddleglum
7 years ago

So it’s just that using the lawnmower is more fun than going out for malteds.

IMHO using a powered lawnmower is actually a lot of fun (assuming it’s not too freakin’ hot out). Malteds after, that’s the ticket!

weirwoodtreehugger
7 years ago

Of course, the thing about space is that it’s almost entirely devoid of anything at all. So it’s basically saying that “not men’s privilege” (or perhaps women’s privilege) is, in fact, nothing.

Or maybe he’s saying that female is mysterious and vast like dark matter. I can’t give him credit for that level of physics knowledge though. That probably isn’t it.

You have to wonder why people would be so upset that anyone would want their rights protected, be they female or male.

If you’re upset that anyone stands up for themselves then that’s just you admitting you want to violate their rights.

Men already have rights. They aren’t a marginalized group. Fighting for men’s make no more sense than fighting for white rights. The MRM is actually fighting for men’s privilege.

titianblue
titianblue
7 years ago

Poor Mikey. No reading comprehension, no sense of humour, just desperation and pomposity.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
7 years ago

Mac… A dame? Ya nuts? A plan: Panama! A man, Ap na— lp! A stunay mad Acam!

Andrea Harris (@SpinsterAndCat)

Re: poodles. They were actually bred as a type of “water dog” (a dog who assisted hunters by retrieving game from the water) so maybe the description is apt, but not as uncomplimentary as Mr. Buchanan was trying for.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
7 years ago

Auggziliary

“Is it bad that I don’t understand most of these? Like… What does the “star” one mean? Or the underwear? At first I thought it was telling people they can’t use sex as manipulation.”

You are not the only one. I think the stars is mens rights and privileges and the space is women.

The underwear models represents no matter your gender no one is entitled for sex, money, etc. Of course that’s true. I agree with ally s, it does look transphobic.

The diet is I guess a man is saying to his friend named ‘Mac’ “a dame? Are you nuts?” Macadamin is a type of nut.

The men going their own way dream of women suffering when their out of the dating market. But we are actually really happy hopefully they won’t turn into PUAs. Using Jesus like that? He’s not happy.

Like I said we DONT want to be treated like flowers or trash just human beings. And seriously women don’t even get to be put on pedestals pretty much the opposite actually more like cactus.

Puddleglum

“Some people should *not* be cartoonized.”

He was bad enough before cartoonized

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
7 years ago

As a pro-feminist man, I’m very proud of my water-proof skin, my ability to retrieve small game from aquatic conditions, and the fact that I’m not quite as pathetic as Mikey B.

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
7 years ago

Mac… A dame? Ya nuts? A plan: Panama! A man, Ap na— lp! A stunay mad Acam!

🙂

There was some humour magazine back in the 1980’s that purported to have created The Longest Palindrome! The previous record-holder had been “A man, a plan, a canal: Panama.”

The new one: A foof, a man, a plan, a canal: Panama Foofa!

So of course now, decades later, members of my family randomly erupt with “Panama Foofa!” And it makes perfect sense. Way more sense than Mikey.

pallygirl
pallygirl
7 years ago

My only serious question about poodles: aren’t there three types (erm, maybe toy, minature, and standard)? And that the standard is quite a large dog? Help me Emily Goddess.

I have been musing (for 0.5 seconds) on the way Mikey keeps coming here and leaving his blog information. Given that:
– David has a lot of international traffic, which obviously includes UK voters, and
– I assume that most of the visitors to this site (and there will be more viewers than commenters) are here because they’re opposed to MRA ideology, and
– David’s site visitors won’t overlap much with Mikey’s site visitors

Then Mikey’s posts here are more likely to lose him voters than gain them.

MRAs: suck at political strategy as well as PR, humanism, social sciences, STEM fields, arts fields…

Puddleglum
7 years ago

He was bad enough before cartoonized

Lol.

Though I want to add, what was the meme maker thinking?? I mean, if you modify a pic, and it turns your guy into a bad imitation of one of the Three Stooges, you scrap it and start over. With a different pic or a different style. Sheesh.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

Ok, can Mike get a moderation ban in line with trolls of yore? No more posting your damned link, NO ONE CARES!

“I think “stealing me for Daddy’s money” is an anti-kidnapping PSA. I’d change “hurts me too” to “hurts Daddy and/or Mommy too”. Obviously the primary victim in kidnappings is the victim. That’s very nearly a tautology.”

Ah, let me translate that one out of MRA —

Mommy, when you applied for sole custody and the judge granted it, you made me not see daddy anymore and that makes me sad…even if you did make up some really outlandish accusations against him and get enough of his income to buy me all the cool toys, since you went and spent it on bonbons, and now I can’t see daddy or get cool toys!

…and I just figured out why it’s never a little girl. Mommy will spend her bonbon money on the girls, gonna train ’em young!

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
7 years ago

About that star picture. I can’t find it now, but I have come across an article where they magnified the blank space between the stars, and it’s actually CHOCK FULL of more stars, galaxies, and nebulae that are just too far away to be seen without zooming in. CHOCK EFFING FULL.

So, I’m thinking that it’s kind of like a 5 of cups in Tarot. MRAs are so focused on the privileges they (think) they don’t have, and are completely blind to the ones they do.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

Pallygirl — yeah, standard, minimum and toy. A standard poodle is, eh, sorta retriever sized? Ish? They’re not small dogs, but not huge either. Sorta, um, if it was standing in front of you, it’s back and your knees would probably be close. Whereas a toy poodle, well, “let me jump on you, see how I can almost put my paws on your knees? Aren’t I adorable?!” (It was)

bekabot
7 years ago

Swimming against the current here — I kind of like the Underwear Model meme. It’s true, in both cases. It’s exactly what somebody somewhere should at some time have let this guy know. But somehow, mysteriously, nobody ever broke the news, so the dude died ignorant. What a pity. What a shame.

pallygirl
pallygirl
7 years ago

I hate, hate, hate the one about “stealing me for daddy’s money”. It’s called child support or child maintenance or similar for a reason: the money is used for the child.

MRAs: hate their non-custodial offspring.

Seriously, don’t breed with these people. What damage do they think it does to the child, when the child thinks their father doesn’t love them.

Oh right, it’s not about the children at all, it’s about punishing the mother.

pallygirl
pallygirl
7 years ago

And pro-tip: if the court has awarded custody, or there has been an outside-of-court agreement written up, it’s not stealing. Because stealing is against the law. The custodial arrangement has been organised inside the law. How hard is that to understand?

Puddleglum
7 years ago

@bekabot, I’d agree, but the problem is that the intent of the meme is to say that the owners of ‘the contents’ (I still think it’s a dehumanizing way to phrase it) don’t have the right to use their bodies to get sex/money/happiness/etc. It’s an anti-hypergamy thing (though as aesthetic point, the meme maker really should have used rear views – that would have been more on topic).

The fact that the meme can be interpreted to mean that the viewer doesn’t have the right to own the viewee is a bonus, but it’s just too damned ambiguous overall to be useful.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

But, but, but…BITCHES BE LYING!!

(For extra hilarity, I was just reading about whelping boxes…to keep the bitch from lying on her pups…the only actual appropriate context for a discussion of where bitches lie! [Also, dear gods are mastiff puppies adorable!])

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
7 years ago

That was directed at pallygirl, regarding how a legal settlement could be “stealing” in MRAland.

kittehserf
7 years ago

The child “theft” one basically says that children are property, and that men shouldn’t have to pay for their food, shelter, education and so on if they don’t have possession (sorry, custody).

It says a whole lot more about MRAs’ attitudes than they realise.

magnesium
magnesium
7 years ago

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