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Dizzy With Success: Paul Elam announces triumphant move of AVFM conference to less convenient venue

Quick, look over there!
Quick, look over there!

So A Voice for Men, having lost or abandoned the original venue for their “Men’s Issues” conference in Detroit, has announced its new location: A VFW post some 18 miles away from the original hotel where, presumably, most of the conference’s attendees will be staying.

According to Paul Elam, they made the move in large part to spare conference-goers the terrible inconvenience of having to watch the no-doubt riveting presentations from an “overflow room.”

No, really.

In a post last night, Elam declared that all the media attention given to the conference

has produced is a hell of a lot more interest in the conference, and more ticket sales. So much so, as a matter of fact, that we have opted to move to a venue that will seat more people and provide more security than was available previously.

While we apologize for any inconvenience that the move is going to cause, it is nonetheless a positive move for the conference. Because seating capacity was misrepresented to us at the previous venue, we were forced to plan for an overflow room where we would pipe in live events to a monitor at reduced ticket prices.

With the change of venue we will be able to accommodate all attendees in the same space at the same time.

Naturally, the first thing some critics of Elam did when they saw this announcement was to look up the seating capacity of the largest rooms at both venues. The largest room at the Doubletree Fort Shelby, where the conference was originally scheduled to take place, seats 300, with a maximum capacity of 310. The largest room at the VFW post … also seats 300. Or maybe 350. The VFW website isn’t clear.

In other words, Elam expects us to believe that in order to avoid the inconvenience of having to resort to “overflow rooms,” AVFM moved its convention to a venue 18 miles away from the original hotel that might not even offer rooms any bigger than the original venue.

Meanwhile, in the comments to Elam’s post, one would-be conference attendee reports that the Doubletree has canceled his reservation. If Doubletree has decided to wash its hands of the conference attendees now that they are no longer hosting the conference, and Elam is telling the truth about the number of people planning to attend, this could mean hundreds of people scrambling for hotel rooms.

Still, Elam and his troops are eager to present this as a great victory.

It’s weird. You might think that this sort of reality distortion would be impossible in a democratic country in the internet age. Sure, back in Stalin’s day, the Soviet Union’s propaganda machine could present massive failure as success and get away with it – at least to some degree, at least within their own country.

In the wake of a disastrous program of “forced collectivization” of rural agriculture in 1929-30, which left many peasants dead or imprisoned and paved the way for future famines, Stalin famously announced in an article in Pravda that the program had been so amazingly successful that he needed to call a temporary halt so that everyone could catch their breath. The title of his article: “Dizzy With Success.”

The only way you can get away with bullshit this brazen is if you’re a dictator or the leader of a cult – something that A Voice for Men has increasingly come to resemble. AVFMers are expected not only to accept Elam’s leadership; they’re expected to accept his distinctly non-consensus reality – a world turned upside down in which men are the real victims of domestic violence and rape and pretty much everything else, a world in which the Southern Poverty Law Center is a collection of evil bigots and his motley collection of misogynists is the true human rights movement of the twenty-first century.

Like a lot of cult leaders, Elam keeps his troops too busy to think straight in a continual frenzy of pseudo-activism. AVFMers are forever brigading comment sections of newspaper articles and YouTube videos in little squads (AVFMers almost always travel in packs), all reciting the same few talking points.

Weirdly, the dynamics of internet discussions can actually reinforce this kind of intellectual conformity, much as Stalin’s control of the media did in his day. No, AVFMers can’t avoid being exposed to facts that contradict the shared (un)reality of their ideological bubble.

But in internet discussions you don’t have to be right in order to convince yourself you’ve won an argument. You just have to be loud and persistent and unwilling to ever give in. You don’t have to convince anyone else of your arguments so long as you convince yourself. MRAs don’t win many arguments on their merits, but they manage to convince themselves they win every one.

The trouble is that when they step outside of their regular stomping grounds on the internet, this strategy – so effective in generating ideological conformity amongst cult members – falls completely apart.

We’ve seen several spectacular examples in the past couple of weeks. First, we watched a concert organized by Canadian Men’s Rights group CAFE implode after musicians and sponsors realized what they’d been roped into; the pathetically unconvincing attempts by the group to explain away this failure were amazing to behold.

Then we saw AVFM’s Dean Esmay reduce himself to a caricature on Fox (local) news as he rapidly regurgitated standard AVFM talking points like some sort of fanatical ideological auctioneer, apparently unaware that to everyone outside of the Men’s Rights bubble everything he was saying was obviously utter nonsense.

And now we have Paul Elam trying to convince the world that AVFM changed its venue for its conference because, hey, we needed more room!

The trouble with having your head up your ass most of the time is that when you take it out, people tend to notice the smell.

But, hey, as long as the AVFMers are happy with their new venue, I’m happy for them. Janet Bloomfield, the official “social media director” for the conference, posted this triumphant tweet lat night:

https://twitter.com/JudgyBitch1/status/476822883881459712

She has assured me that this is an actual quote. The “Wayne State cunts” remark is apparently a reference to the Wayne State sociology professor who, er, debated AVFM’s Dean Esmay on the local Fox affiliate the other day. Esmay has also posted a slightly shorter version of the same quote in the AVFM comments section.

So, yes, both the official PR representative for the conference and AVFM’s “managing editor” both apparently think it’s a great idea to refer to women who disagree with them as “cunts.”

Oh, and Bloomfield also thinks it’s hilarious to joke about Elam scamming his supporters of the $29,000 raised for additional security:

https://twitter.com/BhasChat/status/476907717194702848

You can’t buy this kind of publicity, largely because as far as I know there are no PR firms that offer organizations help in destroying the last tiny shreds of their credibility.

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judgybitch
10 years ago

@Hellkell “lapdog” – LOL – so you don’t think I have agency or the ability to make decisions on my own, huh? Yep. That’s feminism right there. Women: utterly helpless victims at all times everywhere.

le sigh and no thanks

bunnybunny
bunnybunny
10 years ago

Not sure why JB is treating the fact that no one has any idea what she’s going on about as a feminist conspiracy. Feminism is not responsible for you being terrible at communicating.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

So, you’re saying you lied about a VFW employee? Do they know you did that?

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

JB: thinks that a criticism of her is a criticism against all females.

The idiocy is strong with this one.

Try again.

Mike Buchanan
10 years ago
Reply to  cassandrakitty

Hi JudgyBitch, good to see a top ‘Honey Badger’ here. I see Dave’s intrepid band of followers have found out about MRA Island – damn! – and they’ve also guessed the internet connections there are unreliable, at best. AVfM will have to do another fundraiser to sort that out. At least they don’t know yet about the wife-beater stick production line at the Patriarchy factory on the island. I understand the sticks are manufactured to a thickness just 0.001″ less than the average man’s thumb, to avoid the obvious legal risks.

bunnybunny
bunnybunny
10 years ago

So, you’re saying you lied about a VFW employee? Do they know you did that?

Based on her panicked posts here, they do now, or they’re about to. Yikes. What a shame when things like that come back to bite you in the ass.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

LOL – so you don’t think I have agency or the ability to make decisions on my own, huh? Yep. That’s feminism right there. Women: utterly helpless victims at all times everywhere.

No, honey. I think you’re a misguided asshole. Learn to read. Learn to communicate. Just…learn.

Colette Wedding
10 years ago

Not only does the fallen soldier-exploiting Michael Buchanan display zero personality in his posts but never appears to be talking to anyone in particular.

And what the hell is JB talking about?

Anarchonist
Anarchonist
10 years ago

Aww, I do find it adorable how they’re acting all smug. Not sure what they’re feeling smug about, but I guess it’s not as important as smugness itself*. Just as it is more important to score rhetorical points and boost one’s ego by patting each other on the back than it is to make a single coherent point.

BTW, didn’t JudgyBitch comment here before, pretending to be all super cereal and totes worried about a protester? What’s with this new tactic?

*In reactionary land, acting smug and superior is the equivalent of engaging in rational dicourse and using logical arguments that are rooted in the real world.

Colette Wedding
10 years ago

Yes, she wanted to “trick” us into rallying ’round a woman they decided sent threats to DoubleTree.

Athywren
Athywren
10 years ago

@Mike B

David, thank you for your public challenge. My response:

http://j4mb.wordpress.com/2014/06/12/david-futrelles-response-to-our-public-challenge/

So, I’ll be honest, I hadn’t bothered to follow your links before this one. I followed this one, because I thought there might be some comedy gold behind it. You’re clearly unaware of the difference between there being no possible response to your challenge and your simply being dismissed as irrelevant, but that’s not the point of this comment.

Do you understand that website design is important? You’re trying to get a message out, I get that, that’s fine. What the hell is up with your links bar? You should do something about that. People aren’t going to scroll through a screen’s worth of header to get to your body. Get yourself some drop downs, or a nice little javascript area to categorise them, because they look like a mess. Seriously, people will be more likely to read your body text if you tidy that header up.

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
10 years ago

Women in war:

http://www.militarydegreeprograms.org/women-in-war/

There is Mulan, Joan of Ark, Amazonia women, Mongolian women and others that fought in war. I also read about people who taught their children about war so they could fight at the age of 7 I think it was Greek or Sparta I can’t remember but I do know that ALOT of civilians died and were raped in wars.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

It’s so sad when they attempt humor.

judgybitch
10 years ago

So, you’re saying you lied about a VFW employee? Do they know you did that?

Why don’t you call and ask them? 🙂

contrapangloss
10 years ago

Can we retire the phrase honey badgers?

Honey is too sweet, badgers are too adorable, and honey-badgers are just too hardcore to demean so rudely by associating them with someone who thinks a gendered slur is a good handle.

Honey badgers, way awesome:

http://youtu.be/wPKlryXwmXk

Loved them ever since I saw a particular movie, with a brief subplot with a honey badger, a boot, and a long suffering veterinarian.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Why are the assholes always so in love with emoticons? Is it the closest they get to showing human emotion or what?

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

hellkell:

Christ, who’s sadder, Judgybitch or Mikey?

I…I don’t know. Between JB trying to act all mysterious and really just ending up incoherent, and Mikey so transparently begging for attention, I can’t tell.

Colette Wedding
10 years ago

If JB or any MRA get called on lies you know they’ll just say it was saaaaaatire.

Puddleglum
10 years ago

Am I really the only one who looked at the lovely pic at the top of the article and thought it was a pic of Elam trying to summon Cthulhu (glancing at cyrillic is a lot like glancing at gothic font lovecraftian, Iä! Iä! Cthulhu Fhtagn!)?

It’s all kittehserf’s fault for introducing me to the Unspeakable Vault…

karl
karl
10 years ago

We are growing. Get used to it. 🙂

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

JB is like a bratty child chanting “I’ve got a secret! I’m not telling! Na na na boo boo stick your head in doo doo!”

I knew that MRAs were regressive but I didn’t realize that aligning with them sends your emotional and mental age back to 10 years old.

Mike Buchanan
10 years ago

Colette, plenty of demonstrable lies told by feminists (and their male poodles) here:

http://j4mb.wordpress.com/our-public-challenges-to-feminists

What do they say in defence? Satire? Parody? No. They say nothing, because they know the mainstream media will never hold them accountable for lying. I invite you to find even one lie I’ve stated on my five blogs, my three books, my numerous articles and countless blog posts and comments. If and when you do, I’ll retract it in a heartbeat, because MHRAs have integrity, while feminists don’t – they never have, they don’t now, and they never will.

Tulgey Logger
Tulgey Logger
10 years ago

Puddleglum, I think you may be on to something. Here’s an image of a Men’s Rights Old One ranting about the dangers of Communism:

http://i0.wp.com/vigilantcitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/tumblr_lu0gq2iYy21qaxtrf1.jpg

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Mikey, please stop trying to push your blog on us. Boundaries–respect them.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

And Mikey’s back to some old trope that only females can be feminists, male feminists are “poodles”.

Are they purple poodles? Inquiring minds need to know!

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