Is A Voice for Men's conference kaput? Doubletree says "they are not booked with us." [UPDATE: Elam says they have another venue.]

Yep, and the screaming pissbabies will get treated as the chewtoys they are, too.

I love this site. 🙂

LOL and apparently an icon too, as well as a state of mind.

It’s banned in Australia, for what it’s worth.

I didn’t know this. When did it happen? I mean, I knew if was less common in younger guys but I didn’t know it was law rather than fashion.

Wrong thread. How friggin’ embarrassing. Rejection mindfuck brain, sorry.

I misspoke slightly on the illegality of circumcision in Australia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision_and_law#Australia

It’s *banned* for cosmetic reasons in public hospitals (not private), and *could* be considered assault under a strict interpretation of state law in Queensland.

So, I screwed up on that one, sorry. But at least in Australia, doctors are definitely on notice they better have a good reason, and be careful, if they don’t want to end up sued or prosecuted for assault.

I’m sorry but that’s just f****g hilarious! I am actually seriously starting to think that some of these guys have serious mental illness, maybe we should be taking pity LOL! Nope! I got over that, they are just a bunch of sociopaths/psychopaths trying to manipulate an otherwise ridiculous situation.

– discrimination in employment (quotas for women – well, in the well-paid pleasant lines of work, anyway)

So how come it’s mostly women wiping the chins, noses and bottoms of all those frail and/or dementing old folks in nursing homes?

Or is that a pleasant, well-paid line of work by the standard here. In which case, I’m not going to rely on any description of any job.

@kmcorby

Hi, recent blog follower, first-time commenter here. I don’t really think all this gloating is becoming.

Welcome. I’m sure someone will be along with a welcome package shortly. I should warn you though, you’ll find that most of us don’t give a flying fig about what is “becoming” or expected of us, especially if those expectations are based on restrictive gender norms of what good little women are supposed to be – never angry, never overly emotional, never upset or critical or, god forbid, triumphant.

Let them have their stupid little conference. Forty paunchy guys sitting around have a massive bitchfest in a hotel conference room. Wow, radical. They say sunlight is the best disinfectant. The more MRAs expose themselves in public, the more the public will see how pathetic and foolish they are. Conference on, guys! It’s no skin off my nose.

And you might want to read that welcome package carefully because:

“paunchy!? No to the fat shaming!
“bitchfest”? And no to the gendered slur!

@strivingally I think a lot of the redpill audience is young guys that are having trouble with women for whatever reason and they tend to use it as a way to overlook their issues. “Hey it’s not me specifically that’s having trouble, it’s because feminism poisoned society and now only %20 of men can have sex, while women are slutting it around!!” which is obviously and absolutely farcical. I would direct them to HookingUpSmart, she has quite a few “Spit out that red pill” posts that she back with data showing actually how similar men and women are in this aspect and really it is no different if a woman wants to have sex with multiple partners then when a man wants it. It doesn’t affect men in a bad manner, so why would you even treat women differently and ,most of the time, worse for the same actions? Also, there is this trope that “women could have sex with anytime if they wanted to”… Nobody wants to have sex with just anybody, not even the guys desperate enough to believe red pill ideologues. Just because you have to make adjustments, doesn’t mean that sex is something unattainable. The women whom you consider to be able to have sex anytime, do more work on their appearance in a day than a lot of these guys do in a week.

Or I would try to show them how much the world, media, computer games, movie is male-oriented and maybe they don’t understand women and feminism as much as they think they do(take this cracked article’s point #2 for example), but I don’t know if they’ll listen.

@Athywren Awesome comment, man, thanks. In real life, these rabid antifeminists are nowhere to be seen. The case is probably as you said.

@ceebarks Really? Matt Forney, THE Matt Forney said that? wow.

@freemage I have the feeling that a lot of people can be more logical about feminism if shown the right way, but it takes so much time, effort, emotional drain to be the one doing so.

And that’s why I will always appreciate sites like these and people like David.

And also makes me look over my shoulder for the queue of desperate men apparently falling over themselves to have sex with me, an average looking woman. So far they have not materialized.

XD XD XD

@Shadow Nirvana: yes! Or, more or less. Perhaps I have interpreted him too charitably, though. http://mattforney.com/2014/04/14/the-manosphere-is-dead-and-you-have-killed-it/

“Over the weekend, I also met a French girl who was hitchhiking to California, bunked with a Chinese backpacker who was toting a full-on PC across America, and finished reading four books.

According to the manosphere, the French girl is a hypergamous slut, Annie Clark is a feminist bitch and the Chinese guy is a hopeless beta. Yet somehow, I can enjoy the richness of the human experience without feeling the need to pick nits. The world is screwed up, yet I leave my house every day looking forward to what happens next. There are people to meet, books to read, songs to record and asses to kick.”

He’s probably still a mean and ignorant little shit but getting out of the house is usually a step in the right direction.

Just saw this article today, Women in Construction: Still Breaking Ground, from the National Women’s Law Center.

I recall Mikey bringing up workplace discrimination up thread and thought I’d post this as a piece of evidence. There’s a reason women are underrepresented in more dangerous, male dominated fields, and it isn’t feminism.

Sorry for the tl;dr, but these are some pretty important parts below. The stats are bad enough, but the stories are especially alarming.

Even if women are ultimately hired for construction jobs, they
are often subject to gender stereotypes that make it harder for
them to retain their jobs, such as employer assumptions about
actual or perceived caregiving responsibilities or women’s
physical capabilities in the field. Even worse, women face
extreme sexual harassment and denigration. A study by the
U.S. Department of Labor reported that 88 percent of women
construction workers experience sexual harassment at work,
compared to 25 percent of women in the general workforce.
Another study referred to construction as “the industry that time
forgot” due to the employment practices related to women.
Some of the practices cited include: negative stereotypes about
women’s ability to perform construction work; sexual tension
injected into work contexts; intentions to reserve well-paid
employment for men, “who deserve it”; and reluctance by
supervisors and other officials to discipline perpetrators of
discrimination. These discriminatory work environments
persist despite the fact that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 has
prohibited such practices for 50 years.

Jenny, a single mother of two, broke a three-generation reliance on public assistance when she began her electrical apprenticeship. She was met with harassment and
hazing, but hoped that once she passed the apprenticeship stage and became a journeywoman, it would stop and her coworkers and supervisors would respect
her. Instead, the hostility increased. Men exposed
themselves, sexually harassed her, and accused her of
sleeping with the boss when she was promoted to
forewoman. On her way to earning $85,000-plus per
year as a journey level electrician, Jenny considered
taking an entry-level job as a daycare worker with an
annual salary of $35,000 just to escape
the hostile work environment.