Woah! Just wanted to pass along this news from the Motor City Muckraker:
A controversial conference for a men’s rights group in Detroit appears to be in jeopardy after a fallout with downtown’s Hilton DoubleTree, which planned to host the event from June 26-28.
The inaugural conference at the DoubleTree has been canceled for unknown reasons, and organizers of the first International Conference on Men’s Issues haven’t said yet whether it will be moved to another hotel and conference center.
“At this time, they are not booked with us,” Larry Brown, manager of the DoubleTree, said this morning. He declined to elaborate on the cancelation.
There’s nothing on A Voice for Men about this latest development, though Esmay hinted during his Fox News appearance that they were possibly going to reconsider the Doubletree. But as of right now, AVFM is still selling tickets, as if the Doubletree convention is still a going concern.
Are they going to try to book the convention elsewhere? Or are they going to take the $29,000 they raised for “security” and, I dunno, send Esmay to a better stylist?
One other, ah, interesting detail in the Motor City Muckraker story:
When asked Tuesday whether the event would be moved, an organizer responded: “The DoubleTree GM (general manager) actually said that he has ‘feminist phobia’ and sort of laughed but in a nervous way. So its being discussed.”
It’s questionable whether this conversation ever occurred because the general manager is a woman.
Yeah. Seems like a lot of things about this convention have been pretty questionable from the start.
UPDATE: Well, one thing’s a bit clearer now, though. I called the Detroit Police and they confirmed that the Doubletree did indeed report to them that it had received threats. Who sent them, we still don’t know, but I think we can all agree that whether the threats came from some misguided feminist or “progressive” or from an MRA trying to stir shit and make feminists look bad, whoever made the threatening calls is a shithead who deserves to face the legal consequences for what they did.
UPDATE 2: According to the Detroit News, Elam says they’ve got another venue:
“We have scheduled another venue and will make an announcement on the site this evening,” group founder Paul Elam said in an email Wednesday.
So far no announcement on AVFM; I’ll post about it when there is one.
Oh JB, even your attempts at sarcasm fail.
This is from way back on the first page and the conversation has moved on but I just gotta
“Maintenance?” Assface, do you not understand the difference between living, breathing children and your goddamn car? Here’s a hint: your children are human beings who depend on you to survive. Your car is an inanimate fucking object.
And wow, it is so weird that a group of people who believe they should only have to take care of their kids if they get what they want aren’t (or claim not to be) granted as much time with their kids as they feel they deserve. It is so strange that nobody seems to recognize what phenomenal parents they are!
Have MRAs not yet developed object permanence, is that the problem? Do they not understand that their children continue to exist even when they don’t see them? Is this a very confusing idea when you have an ass for a face?
Sorry, was that humour?
Hookers and blow would be a more worthy cause to donate to than AVfM though.
She wants so badly to be cool and fails so embarrassingly. I feel kind of bad for her.
Pauly will surely applaud her effort and feed her a doggy biscuit (paid for by his ladyfriend.)
God you’re weak. Hookers and blow would be more bang for your bucks than a bunch of middle-aged dudes gathering to figure out pester women more effectively.
^how to
I need more coffee.
Viscaria – “child maintenance” is another term for child support. The term still gets used in UK and Australian English, for example.
I mean I know it was a reference back to one of our silly commnets but, damn, that fell flat. Poor JB.
Have fun playing pulltabs at the VFW.
Yes, but it was a top quality slam by Viscaria, never the less. I applauded.
Of all the people to be making an ass of yourself trying to impress, too. Couldn’t she at least aim a little higher?
Hello, first time poster long time lurker and fellow Brit here. Just wanted to add my 2 cents about Buchanan’s ramblings: If he actually knows of any company which has a gender quota for hiring, he should immediately report them to the police as that is illegal in the UK!
Positive discrimination is considered to violate the principle of equal treatment so is prohibited across Europe. The only exceptions in the UK are in the Civil Service (which is allowed to discriminate in favour of those form low income backgrounds) and the Police Service of Northern Ireland (which is allowed to discriminate to ensure a roughly equal number of Catholic and Protestant police officers). Notice how neither of those involve gender.
Other than that I just wanted to say that you guys are awesome, that you David are doing a fantastic job and I really enjoyed watching this conference debacle unfold!
Oh, true, true, I just didn’t want anyone mistakenly thinking the MRM came up with it.
Object permanence was a perfect comment.
So, Hellkell, do I gather that VFW (?) is the new venue? At work so no way am I clicking on JBs link.
I don’t have a screenshot of it on my phone, but last night Janet tweeted:
” our new venue manager: “let those Wayne State cunts fuck themselves up their own asses”
I’m sure that will be something the management of the VFW (especially the ladies auxiliary ) would not want associated with them.
titianblue, it is.
For those not in the U.S., the VFW is the Veterans of Foreign Wars, a social club for veterans, but they also do more:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_of_Foreign_Wars
Then renting out their spaces for parties and gatherings is not unheard of, but I think at least one person would have to be a member.
Oh lawd, from TheBluePill subreddit (contains misogyny): http://i.imgur.com/Sh3SRiM.jpg
Incredible* how AVfM seem to find such crudely and vocally anti-feminist venue managers wherever they go, producing such quotable quotes for them.
*as in unbelievable
I thought that was just a joke about VFWs (I used to work at one, so I loled) but I too donotclicky the JB’s link, so I didn’t think it was really the new venue? Really?
VFW = Veterans of Foreign War, btw. Mine was a bingo hall slash dive bar that served mostly Miller Lite out of a can.
I’m guessing that a “banqueting hall” isn’t costing them $25k to rent …
The one my Dad goes to is the same, except there it’s bottles of Bud.
http://vfw1146brucepost.org/VFW%20Hall%20Price%20Guide.jpg
http://motorcitymuckraker.com/blog/2014/06/12/odd-twist-controversial-mens-rights-conference-in-detroit-moves-to-suburban-vfw/
I can see the men’s issues conference taking place in such an establishment but definitely not if it’s primarily populated by ‘Nam vets. The conference too would likely feature such beverages as Bud and Miller Lite.