Does anyone here understand string theory and dark matter and all that physics crap? Because I am seriously beginning to wonder if Men’s Rights Activists literally live in an alternate universe that only partially intersects with our own.
In the universe I live in, Canada is a lovely and somewhat uncannily polite country to the north, the home of Rush and Kate Beaton and, I’m pretty sure, a lot of bears. To MRAs it is a land under the bootheel of a radical feminist gynarchy in which men cower in elevators because they are deathly afraid of being accused of sexual harassment.
No, really.
I was skimming through an old interview with good old Erin Pizzey, A Voice for Men’s pet domestic violence expert, probably because she’s the only one who thinks jokes about eating “battered women” — you know, like batter fried chicken — are hilarious.
In the interview, she was telling Dean “Long Tie” Esmay about a speaking tour she’d made in Canada — a place she describes as “one of the worst countries in the world.” No, really. Here’s what she had to say about her harrowing ordeal:
I did a six week tour, with Senator Anne Cools, all across Canada. And there were some wonderful … uh, men’s groups, just struggling to keep going. And as we traveled and talked to men’s groups, we realized how terribly dangerous it is because it’s almost as though the entire government and the judiciary–the same people–had been infiltrated by very radical feminists out to get men. And I talked to people all the way across Canada. You know my mother was Canadian, and I’m half Canadian, and it hurt actually. See I was a child in Toronto, and my feeling as we went through is real fear. I remember I was working with Anne in the Senate and I walked in to the lift, and this man who was in the lift with me was cowering over in the corner. And I came out and I said to Anne, “What on earth was that about?” And she said, “Men are frightened. They just don’t know when they’re going to be told they’re sexually harassing somebody.”
I’ve highlighted several of the passages which I think may have entered our universe from the Bizarro Men’s Rights multidimensional wormhole of misandry.
But, seriously, what planet does this woman live on? Does she actually think something like this really happened? Was there really a man in an elevator with her who was literally cowering in the corner because he thought she would accuse him of some sort of sex crime? Was there a man there at all? Was there even an elevator? Is Canada a real country? THEN WHO WAS PHONE?
he was probably standing in the corner with his eyes completely averted. You used the most exaggerated of possibilities.
I’m feeling good today. Ontario has finally just elected out first female Premiere, and she’s gay, too! Only one of her opponents was a man, and he was the Conservative representative. (Go figure.)
I feel proud to live in a province where the people will vote for who they think is the best person for the job, with gender and sexuality virtually a non-issue in the campaign. It was wonderful to see our new Premiere bring her partner onstage during her acceptance speech, and to see them cheered like any straight couple in their position would be.
And I couldn’t be happier that World Pride will descend on my fair city at the end of the month, in a cloud of rainbow glitter, to celebrate the beauty of love and diversity. I’ll be walking in the Trans March, as an ally with my awesome BFF.
All this beautiful equality has something to do with the Canadian MRM, I think. There are no doubt plenty of tightie-whities tying themselves in manly knots today, knowing that the people actually voted for a (gasp) GAY WOMAN. This obviously means that hunting season on bigots starts tomorrow. I kid, but some of them probably actually believe it. I think they’re running scared. They better be, because the people have spoken.
If we’re talking about amazing CanCon, I’ve been absolutely glued to Orphan Black.
Winter Walker — I applaud my northern neighbors 🙂
Athywren and titianblue — I was thinking of the recent movie, but I’d forgotten about the show. My blood to coffee ratio has been off lately.
It’s nice to hear about provincial politics from provinces other than Alberta :). Here, I feel tempted to join the Conservatives just so I can have a voice in the leadership race, which is pretty much the only way to influence our government.
Congratulations to Ontario!
Men with Brooms is brilliant. For a different sort of CanCon “Bon Cop, Bad Cop” is a dark, funny, warped, bilingual film (run it with the English Subtitles) about an OPP/SQ cop working together (somewhat reluctantly) to solve a crime of questionable jurisdiction.
Kitteh: Washington, DC actually, but the complaints about the lifts being slow are valid here, too. The ones in the parking garages at some stations are often faster than the ones in the stations!
I adore Orphan Black! My favorite clone is Allison ever since the singing Meredith Brooks scene.
God, I love Bon Cop, Bad Cop.
Man, Orphan Black. Watched the first season all out of order, and it didn’t matter, it was brilliant.
Can’t wait till disk 2 hits DVD. Can’t wait. (no spoilers!!!)
Howard, I think season 2 is on Hulu. They’ve been advertising it pretty aggressively.
Bon Cop, Bad Cop was a good one! And I will forever love Forever Knight, my favourite pre-Buffy vampire show.
Viscaria – I’m so sorry to hear that you have to deal with Alberta politics, it must be downright painful! At least that’s the impression I’ve gotten from visiting Alberta and from keeping up with National politics to a decent degree.
Just remember that most of the rest of the country isn’t always so bad, and stand strong. We’ve got your back. 🙂
Awesome news from Ontario! 🙂
@ncc1707d
I’m only ashamed that we here, with all of our oil money, so rarely have the rest of the country’s (and the world’s) back. But that’s a bit of a digression.
Here’s a thing I recently learned about Alberta (yeah, I’ve only lived here pretty much my whole life): northern-ish Alberta was populated* mostly by immigrants directly to Canada from Europe. southern-ish Alberta was populated mostly by the scions of rich American families. It was apparently a cheap option for expanding the family empires, and an out-of-sight place to stick their useless, scandalous sons. Also, manifest destiny. This explains (to me) a LOT about the differences in Alberta-ness between the north and south.
*by populated, I of course mean the dominant white population, which is obviously the only population that matters /sarcasm
(In fact, Amber Valley was mostly populated by escaped slaves smuggled to Canada by the underground railway. So OF COURSE, the close-by townships, settled much later by european immigrants, are noticeably racist and think those black folks should go back to africa.)
And I’m probably blowing a lot of details, because my brain is swiss cheese.
@Winter Walker *fistbumps* Busband and I were over the moon when the results came in… and a majority at that! After all the crap with the mayor (I am in TO), my faith in humanity has been restored, at least temporarily.
@Unimaginative, didn’t know that about AB. Interesting.
Bon Cop Bad Cop is fantastic! Another hilarious CanCon is Tucker & Dale vs Evil – highly recommend if you like comedy horror. It’s on US Netflix, not sure about UK or other Netflixes (Netflixi?)
Re: the OP – I read the transcript of the interview, and it’s one of the worst interviews ever on both sides. It read like Erin and Dean were in the same room, but having two totally different conversations; neither of them really addressed anything the other said. Like they were having a conversation while playing Sudoko and texting or something. And kudos to Dean for preparing for the interview by at least reading part of her book, well done.
Also, Passchaendale: if we are looking for Paul Gross. The ending is a bit over the top, but other than that it’s pretty solid. Depressing, but good.
I came across this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2074284/Domestic-violence-To-say-emotional-abuse-bad-insults-battered-wife.html
I’d say she was the lowest form of life, but parasites have certain values. Bleh. I do find it interesting that she thinks throwing a glass of wine at someone is acceptable. Or screaming vicious comments at people. I suppose she could just be trying to rationalize the kind of abuse she throws at people as well.
@Toolbox
My hatred for Erin Pizzey has just skyrocketed. I have been emotionally abused for as long as I can remember, and she says this shit to an audience that includes victims of emotional abuse. I am so triggered by that article. I hate her so fucking much. She is fucking ruining lives with this nonsense. And she doesn’t even care. She is evil.
[CN: graphic description of domestic abuse]
Oh, and she talks about throwing wine glasses at people. Yeah.
GUESS WHAT, YOU ABUSIVE PIECE OF SHIT? ABUSERS HAVE THROWN OBJECTS LIKE SCORCHING HOT CERAMIC BOWLS AT WALLS CLOSE TO ME FOR THE SAKE OF INTIMIDATION, AND THEN MADE TO CLEAN UP THE FUCKING MESS WITH NOTHING BUT PAPER TOWELS. I NEARLY BURNED MY OWN HANDS TRYING TO CLEAN IT UP. IT’S NOT FUCKING OKAY. IT’S FUCKING TRAUMATIZING AND NO ONE DESERVES TO GO THROUGH IT. GO FUCK YOURSELF ERIN PIZZEY
“I mean sure, that guy killed his kids too, but obviously that’s his wife’s fault.”
I can’t even mock Erin Pizzey anymore. She is too much of a threat for me to want to just call her out through ridicule. Anyone who engages in abuse apologia, of course, contributes to a culture of abuse, but her words and her advocacy work directly harm the lives of abused people. She is actively harmful.
Sigh, asking someone to stay off the phone because you are expecting a call is not abuse, and honestly not that much of an issue thanks to cell phones and call waiting.
Telling someone they can not have access to a phone so that you can cut them off from any potential help is abusive.
Who the hell thinks that chucking an object at another person just because you’re mad at them is a healthy response? If you wouldn’t do said action to your boss because it would get you fired is a pretty damn good reason not to do to the person you love.
There are no winners in the abuse Olympics. All abuse is terrible and just because one might break a bone does not make it better, worse or the same as abuse that breaks your spirit.
Also, while I’m by no means an expert, doesn’t most emotional abuse eventually amp up to physical abuse?
ALL THE TRIGGER WARNINGS
“To me, the definition of domestic violence is quite clear: if you are not in fear of your life, you are not suffering it.”
The fuck is this fucking shit?! I don’t even…
Ally’ straight. This isn’t just apologia, Pizzey is actively harmful. And terrifying.