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The 5 most ridiculous things causing misogynists to lose their sh*t this week

 

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It’s the eternal question: do misogynists spend their entire lives looking for excuses to get mad at women, or are they so naturally enraged by any evidence of female autonomy that they can’t help but erupt in rage over the tiniest of things?

We may never know the answer to that question. What we do know: almost anything can provoke them, no matter how trivial it is, no matter how misguided their anger might seem to anyone who doesn’t actually, you know, hate women. Let’s look at some of the latest things to cause women-haters to lose their shit.

1) British tennis champ Andy Murray’s  announcement this week that he was hiring former female tennis champion Amélie Mauresmo as his coach. Even though she’s, you know, a lady.

On Twitter, as Buzzfeed has chronicled, some have taken exception to Mauresmo’s status as a non-man.

https://twitter.com/zainmohammed786/status/475642785979449344

https://twitter.com/ollieman_95/status/475620687391260672

Others have suggested that maybe she’s more of a man than him – ho ho!

Why it would matter to any of these people just whom someone who is not them wants as his coach remains unclear.

2) An article on the Huffington Post noting that on D-Day, one woman – war correspondent Martha Gellhorn – accompanied the 150,000 men who stormed the beaches.

It’s an interesting story: all the female correspondents who requested spots on the boats were turned down, so she ended up sneaking her way into the invasion by hiding in a ship’s bathroom.

But over on the A Voice for Men forums, someone called Humansplaining w/ Jarred is outraged that “Feminists can’t even let Men have D-DAY for themselves!”

Here we are on the 70th anniversary of a watershed moment in one of the bloodiest wars in human history, where thousands of men selflessly gave their lives, and some Feminist feels the need to devote an entire article to the fact that there was also ONE woman involved! There you go, it’s official – the ratio of worth from women to men, is 1:150,000. Those two are completely equal in the eyes of many Feminists, apparently. You can spend all your time relaying the experiences of that one female in great detail, without even the slightest nod to the individual experiences of those 150,000 other human beings that were involved, many of whom perished in the process. Because VAGINA.

Yep. That’s right. Telling the story of one woman on D-Day is an attack on all the men involved. Hell, let’s take that further. Any story told about any individual person involved in a collective effort should be considered a grave insult to all the others. Saving Private Ryan is an insult to all soldiers who weren’t Private Ryan!

3) LEGO is launching a new series of scientist minifigures – only this time, they’re women!

On the Justice for Men & Boys (and the women who love them) website, British MRA and would-be politician Mike Buchanan sniffs that this move by LEGO belongs in the

‘You couldn’t make this s*** up!’ file. Doubtless it will sell well to hatchet-faced mothers determined to quash any signs of femininity in their unfortunate daughters.

Apparently acknowledging the existence of female scientists is somehow an injustice to men and boys?

4) Older women sometimes have sex with younger men.

There’s a certain kind of man who likes to loudly declare just which women – or categories of women – he “wouldn’t bang.” Our old friend Heartiste – the white-nationalist, purple-prose-writing pickup guru – is a member of a slightly smaller subgroup: he gets angry when other men have sex with the women he’s declared unsuitable, a group which apparently includes all but 0.1% of women his age and older.

In a recent post, Heartiste lambastes the dating site CougarLife.com as a symptom of our “rapid cultural collapse.” Its crime? Matching up “mangy cougars” and their “dusty muffs” with “inexperienced younger men hauling a knapsack of blue balls.”

While Heartiste directs most of his hate at the so-called cougars themselves – for the crime of having sex while female and forty plus – he’s indignant that younger men, in his mind, allow themselves to resort to

the shabby hole of a bottom shelf jezebel to alleviate your incel. … a tepid squirt of pallid pleasure in exchange for your dignity and psychologically distressing confirmation that this is the best you might ever do.

Apparently the idea that a younger man and an older women might actually enjoy having sex with one another is too much for his fragile misogynist mind to take.

Indeed, it’s hard not to wonder if Heartiste actually likes sex at all  – or if his own alleged lovemaking prowess extends much beyond a “tepid squirt.” This, after all, is a guy who thinks going down on a woman is “beta,” because burying your face in what he calls that “fetid, humid mess” is sort of icky, and might lead her to think that you think she’s hot.

And last but not least:

5) Some people are trying to get colleges to take rape more seriously.

In a column in the Washington Post, George Will sniffs that colleges, by addressing what he calls “the supposed campus epidemic of rape” are bestowing upon “’sexual assault’ victims” a “coveted status that confers privileges,” thus encouraging others to jump aboard the victimhood express.

Others have already torn apart Will’s argument pretty thoroughly. So I’ll just note one not-so-little irony: the headline for Will’s column, as it ran in the Post, was “Colleges become the victims of progressivism.”

Why is it that the people who most loudly condemn the supposed “cult of victimhood” are the first to claim that they’re the ones who are really being victimized – by “progressives,” by feminists, by female tennis coaches, by stories about women in war, by LEGO figurines of female scientists, by women they don’t like having consensual sex, by anti-rape activists trying to create a climate in which more than 12% of rape survivors on campuses feel safe enough to report their rapes?

 

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emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

It is unfair that Americans bogart all the racoons, skunks and porcupines. Australia sends our cute animals to other countries to share the joy, but do you share yours? No! Selish.

We did. You aussies are at war with them.

Haha, good point. Kim, would you like some rabbits?

@emilygoddess
If I was to make that “animal directory” site you requested, would you object to it being called Animals for Emily? It has a nice cadence to it. 🙂

Wow, that would be awesome. I could probably help with research – there’ll be a lot of it!

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

You guys spend an aweful lot of time writing articles about things people said in the ‘comments’ section of sites you don’t like, instead of attacking their philosophy directly.

First of all, you are impressing no one with your terrible spelling. Here’s a helpful hint. If you type a word and it has red squiggles underneath it, it’s misspelled. Second of all, to attack MRA philosophy they would have to have a philosophy. All they do is spout a secular version of the argument that women are the root of original sin because Eve ate the apple.

It’s a playground for children playing at biased gynocentric social justice to ridicule the other team.

We get MRAs trolling by claiming to be above the fray and neutral quite often. You are most definitely one of them. Use of the word “gynocentric” is a tell. Only MRAs talk like that. We aren’t nearly as stupid as you think we are.

You aren’t going to scare us into thinking that we ruined feminism that easily. We’ve dealt with people like you before.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

Hey Paul, here’s a tissue. In case you get a nosebleed from sitting atop that high horse of feigned neutrality.

katz
6 years ago

It’s a playground for children

Just because we were talking about four square…

Binjabreel
Binjabreel
6 years ago

Re: Paul
No, we can totally tell that it’s clear he’s a hard-core social justice warrior.

Only someone so enlightened would use “sister” in such a belittling and sexist way, because he’s totes being ironic you guys!

I’m willing to bet he necroes this thread when he thinks we’ve all moved on so it can look like he got the last word.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

We get MRAs trolling by claiming to be above the fray and neutral quite often.

Those sorts of trolls are the most pathetic and dishonest of all. I’d rather fight a troll who’s upfront about their misogyny, instead of one who pretends like they’re descending from the clouds to bestow Super-Evolved Advanced Wisdom on the lowly mud-dwelling rabble. Invariably, these Demigods of Neutrality lack any sort of ethical compass or critical thinking skills, which is what allows them to skate through life thinking they’re superior to people who have the courage to take a moral stand.

Winter Walker
6 years ago

Off topic of discussion, but on topic for the article: in my recent attempts at online dating, I have hit the milestone of my first cougar hunter. He was very polite and charming, and pretty in that 22yr. old Asian boy way. I was howling with laughter about his desire for a “mature, adult woman”.
Did I ever call myself mature anywhere?

Binjabreel
Binjabreel
6 years ago

And, seriously, we don’t even have to go to the mani sphere to find “killallwomen” comments, because they’re kind enough to put them in every comment section of every major newspaper’s website.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Wait a minute did you found any killallmen comment on jezebel?

I did actually see a comment like that Jezebel a few days ago. Except it wasn’t from a feminist. It was a misogynist troll who was satirizing feminists in what he thought was a most amusing way. The funniest part of the whole thing was that another misogynist troll thought he was serious and started fighting with the first troll. Never grasping that the first troll was one of his own kind.

What is it about misogyny that makes you completely unable to tell satire, hyperbole, and seriousness apart from each other.

I’m going to go with stupidity as the causal link.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

And, seriously, we don’t even have to go to the mani sphere to find “killallwomen” comments, because they’re kind enough to put them in every comment section of every major newspaper’s website.

We don’t even need to go to the comment section. We only need to read the editorials in the Washington Post this week. They found it acceptable to publish the opinion that women need to stop “taking lovers” and get married if we don’t want to get raped and abused. Can anyone imagine them publishing a “misandrist” editorial that is at all equivalent to that?

Ledasmom
Ledasmom
6 years ago

From paul:

The sad fact is the femosphere and manosphere have a lot of important issues they want to solve, but have become so holed up in their gendered trenches

Is a “gendered trench” one in the shape of either the female symbol with the circle and cross or the male symbol with the arrow? Might be a bit cramped.

Fnoicby
Fnoicby
6 years ago

weirdwoodtreehugger, I went down a rabbit hole on this topic the other day. Quite interesting. I wish I could remember what it was called but apparently it’s a fairly well-known “thing” that trolls frequently don’t recognize other trolls and get into fights with them. It was quite hilarious, and it’s due to both of their mistaken beliefs about the extremism of whatever subject they’re trying to “satirize”.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

Our trench is pink and sparkly and smells like strawberries!

fruitloopsie
fruitloopsie
6 years ago

“All they do is spout a secular version of the argument that women are the root of original sin because Eve ate the apple.”

Here is a link talking about it

http://www.soldierofchrist.com/learn/fault-of-the-fall.htm

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

I like our gendered trench because it’s decorated with pretty hard backed chairs and scented fucking candles. Also there are kitties frolicking everywhere.

The MRA trench is probably full of nothing but barely legal porn, used and abused tube socks and long ties. I’ll pass.

sebhai
sebhai
6 years ago

“I did actually see a comment like that Jezebel a few days ago. Except it wasn’t from a feminist. It was a misogynist troll who was satirizing feminists in what he thought was a most amusing way. The funniest part of the whole thing was that another misogynist troll thought he was serious and started fighting with the first troll. Never grasping that the first troll was one of his own kind.”

That’s not surprising to hear, I remember a guy complained that women were very mean towards him in the online dating world, and then I recall another guy who admit posing as girls in online dating to trolling around,basically making very cruel comments towards any guys who interested in his girl persona.It makes me wonder how many troll out there who posing as girls are actually doing this….
Men can really be their own worse enemy at times..
By the way how did the misogynistic troll fighting going on at Jezebel?

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

Whoops, just saw Paul’s comment.

You guys spend an aweful lot of time writing articles about things people said in the ‘comments’ section of sites you don’t like, instead of attacking their philosophy directly.

1) MRAs and other manosphere types have a tendency to screen negative comments.

2) Have you ever tried to argue with these idiots? You’d have better luck debating a brick wall.

3) “Philosophy” implies they’ve ever given this shit any thought.

If social justice warriors on sites like these buried the hatchet and realized both genders are oppressed by a priviledged financial class in north america, and focused their energies on fighting gender crimes in other countries and dismantling real sexism in western culture

“SJWs”, “Class > everything”, “women elsewhere have it worse” and “let me mansplain you about real sexism”: you basically scored BINGO in one sentence. Not sure if that’s something to be proud of, but “A” for effort!

Well, since your mission in life is to ‘make fun of’ then you’re not really relevant to the gender rights movement at all.

False dichotomy.

Athywren
Athywren
6 years ago

Hang on… if we’re in a gendered trench… do I have to climb out?
But I don’t want to. It’s all muddy up there… and it smells funny! 🙁

Ledasmom
Ledasmom
6 years ago

Everybody’s welcome in our gendered trench! It’s Bring Your Own Candle Night!

daintydougal
daintydougal
6 years ago

‘You should shut this site down because shining a light on all the terrible things we say and do hurts our fee-fees….cough…I mean because you’re hurting feminism. HAH!’

And now I know they deliberately say that feminism is just the other side of the coin to mra’s, I’ll get less annoyed over it. If it’s ignorance, it makes you want to explain, but deliberate assholery is another matter.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

Sorry: false dichotomy, because one can spend an hour or two mocking misogyny AND ALSO do “real” activism. There’s still 22 hours to work with.

I mea, Paul Elam’s satire pieces are dreadful, but he id’s them as satire at least (the scum manifesto didn’t, but it apprently is satire).

I don’t think A Modest Proposal came with a disclaimer, either.

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I devote large amounts of my time to doing this sort of thing

Wow. The point went so far over your head, it’s a threat to future space missions.

And neither of you are willing to speak up against extremism amongst your ‘allies’.

False. Demonstrably false, if you’ve been reading the site for a couple of months.

Also, you fail as hard at leaving as you do at logic and understanding. But thanks for giving us something to chew on (*squeak squeak*)

Distrust any ideology that requires the invention of new words, or a redefenitions of old ones.

Yeah, ideologies that adapt themselves to new climates, new developments, and new contexts should never be trusted. I know some creationists who would agree with you.

and don’t worry kids — I’m just as harsh on the MRA’s.

Liar.

i can guarantee you i ain’t no mysogynist

Except the part where you said feminist sites were worse than AVfM, with its “bash a violent bitch months” and register-her and “always acquit men accused of rape” and “FTSU”.

Pants on fire.

since i disagree with grand poobah futralle clearly that is a ball faced lie

No offense to David (you know I love you), but he’s not as important to feminism as you MRAs like to think. We managed for decades – centuries – without him, most feminists haven’t even heard of him, and we’ll continue to do fine without him when he’s gone. I think I know why you assholes are so eager to ascribe importance to male feminists, but you said you ain’t no misogynist, so I must be wrong…

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

“Men and women are just as bad as each other but the worse usually comes from left leaning web enabled social justice gender and radical feminists”

“Gender feminists”. Is Christina Hoff Sommers on the BINGO cards? She ought to be.

@Lea.. That’s an aweful lot of assumptions and insults you are hurling at me in not very many words. Who is the horrible angry human being, and the whiny bigot?

“I know you are, but what am I?” And you still don’t understand why we’re mocking you?

Has anyone gotten sebhai a welcome package? I don’t have the link.

@Fnoicby,

I wish I could remember what it was called but apparently it’s a fairly well-known “thing” that trolls frequently don’t recognize other trolls and get into fights with them. It was quite hilarious, and it’s due to both of their mistaken beliefs about the extremism of whatever subject they’re trying to “satirize”.

So they’re extra-susceptible to Poes?

Buttercup,

Our trench is pink and sparkly and smells like strawberries!

Have you been vajazzling again?

Athywren
Athywren
6 years ago

No offense to David (you know I love you), but he’s not as important to feminism as you MRAs like to think.

I honestly had no idea who he was before I came to this site… actually, I don’t think I knew who he was for a while after I started coming here. Obviously I knew there was a Futrellian David who posted the articles, but he was just a name. Could’ve been a bunch of cats and ferrets in a David costume for all I knew!

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
6 years ago

I can’t believe anyone honestly thinks the Gynocratic Hivemind would let a man be our Grand Poobah!

ncc1707d
ncc1707d
6 years ago

Did anyone else notice the epic spelling/usage mistake Paul made about “ball faced” liars? Ball faced! I had to wipe a big mouthful of tea off my screen at that one!
From now on, I know the perfect term for MRAs with “statistics”. They’re obviously BALL FACED LIARS!!! XD

Ally S
6 years ago

Misandry is very real. Feminism has decided to change it’s definition into something that arguably isn’t. Let’s reel the discussion back to a time before we started changing the defnition of words to suit our political needs.

Feminist discourse has never changed the definition of misandry. All it has done is shifted the focus from individually held prejudice to prejudice on a systematic scale. Because oppression functions in terms of hierarchical systems, not an interplay of gender stereotypes in which no one benefits. Of course misandry exists, but not as oppression.

Like mysogyny being ‘institutionalized’ sexism — when the term patriarchy already covers that term. Mysogyny and mysogynyst always applied more to the individual, until feminism needed something to disarm ‘misandry’ with and suddenly changed the definition to suit that.

Patriarchy and misogyny are two different terms. Patriarchy denotes a system wherein men oppress women on the basis of gender. Misogyny refers to the social prejudice against women, and it carries the connotation of power because feminists believe that misogyny is a function of power rather than merely a form of prejudice that some individuals have towards women. It’s true that the definitions are very similar, but they are still distinct. And even if they were effectively the same, who cares?

Distrust any ideology that requires the invention of new words, or a redefenitions of old ones.

Newspeak is not doubleplusgood.

Quite a few discourses invent new words and/or redefine old words. It happens with or without feminism and similar ideologies. And your allusion to the 1984 dystopia is way out of place because Newspeak was supposed to be a language that not only constrained thought, but also prevented the very possibility of social revolution. All language constrains thought, but not all language actually functions as a tool of enslavement. Like all MRAs, you don’t know shit about that book. George Orwell probably can’t even rest in his grave because of dumbasses like you using his literature for bad political talking points.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Funnily, you could call misandry an Orwellian term IMO. Since there is no such thing as systemic oppression of men the word is used not to highlight an actual, real problem but to perpetuate misogyny while sounding like the speaker is concerned about gender equality.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

They’re obviously BALL FACED LIARS!!!

That’s even worse than being a hatchet-faced female scientist Lego buyer.

Depending on the type of ball, of course. Tennis ball face wouldn’t be as bad as basketball face.

emilygoddess – We do have to keep our trench alluring and youthful-looking, otherwise it will end up as a SPINSTRENCH.

Do you suppose MRAs even have a gender trench, or is that too unmanly and modern? Maybe they have a gender motte-and-bailey?

Ally S
6 years ago

you then quote mine his articles, and some horse shit from the comments section and try to paint every man who frequents that site the the brush.

David doesn’t have to paint every man on AVFM with that brush. All he has to do to establish that AVFM is a misogynist shithole is to 1) point out various examples of misogyny anywhere on the website 2) point out that no one on the website cares about the misogyny and/or in fact supports it and 3) point out that the small minority of people on AVFM who call out the misogyny are jumped on by the majority. You’re just repeating the #notallmen bullshit all over again.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

We get MRAs trolling by claiming to be above the fray and neutral quite often.

Those sorts of trolls are the most pathetic and dishonest of all. I’d rather fight a troll who’s upfront about their misogyny, instead of one who pretends like they’re descending from the clouds to bestow Super-Evolved Advanced Wisdom on the lowly mud-dwelling rabble.

And why do trolls pretend to be “neutral,” anyway? They’re so transparent, it’s not like they’re fooling anyone. And I don’t see how the pretense of neutrality gives them any kind of advantage. “I’m completely neutral on the issue of whether or not women are human beings who deserve rights” makes you sound immoral and lacking in critical thinking skills, like Buttercup Q. Skullpants said.

Lea
Lea
6 years ago

We don’t even need to go to the comment section. We only need to read the editorials in the Washington Post this week. They found it acceptable to publish the opinion that women need to stop “taking lovers” and get married if we don’t want to get raped and abused. Can anyone imagine them publishing a “misandrist” editorial that is at all equivalent to that?

QFT!

enhancedvibes
enhancedvibes
6 years ago

Scuse my ignorance here but why do they keep calling Sarkeesian a fake feminist who was just out to make money?

Trolls and all MRAs for that matter, you’re all trolls!

@sparky

I think deny deny deny is part of trolling 101. They all get the handbook before being sent on their douchebro way, which must be true since they all copy and paste the same shite all over the interwebz. My current favorite claim by MRA trolls is that feminism is synonymous with traditionalism – how does one even argue against it it’s so ludicrous. Lack of self awareness is strong with them. They need to learn the lesson, that every time you point the finger, three are pointing back at yourself.

schwadevivre
schwadevivre
6 years ago

Mike Buchanan, do you serve any other purpose than making me ashamed that I share a nationality with you?

Now current female scientists
Lynn Margulis
Jill Tarter
Prof Hahn
Prof Bajcsy
Vera Rubin

Next, why are you scared that women are getting funding that levels out the “playing fields” in STEM.

You are an MRA piece of … work who deserves no consideration except to think of you as a joke.

constellarmaid
constellarmaid
6 years ago

@athywren

I know this is a little old, but

I’m sure this is a terrible Beta thing to say, but I’d rather have a handful of deep and fulfilling notches than hundreds of shallow and meaningless notches. It’s like if you’re digging for gold… you may well find some prettily glittery stuff by scratching through the topsoil, but dig deep and you’ll find some real nuggets that are worth more than you could ever find from a lifetime of picking at the surface.

seems like a kind of counterproductive and slutshamey way to mock PUAs…I get the point you’re going for, though.

In other news, I’m hoping paul sticks the flounce.

Shaenon
6 years ago

Maybe LEGO should inspire young wannabe female scientists with a range of modern era ‘famous’ scientists rather than ‘female’ scientists?

Because Lego sets normally feature real-life celebrities and historical figures. HOLY SHIT HOBBITS ARE REAL

The Lego scientist line is the most recent winner of a contest where people submit their ideas for Lego sets and folks on the Internet vote on them. Having followed the contest, I’m pretty sure it won because nearly all the other entries that got voted in were, “Why don’t you make a line based on this nerd-friendly licensed property? How about this one? How about a Lego Big Bang Theory? I like the Big Bang Theory!” It was one of two finalists that was actually an original idea.

I have to admit that Lego is something of a hobbyhorse of mine, because I loved Lego as a kid, and it pisses me off that it’s turned into a “boy toy.” I feel similarly about science.

Shaenon
6 years ago

And I love that Lego is planning to market the science line (initially called “Female Minifigure”) as “Research Institute” and not make a big deal over the fact that all the scientists are ladies.

Incidentally, the line was designed by geochemist Dr. Ellen Kooijman.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Speaking of misters not understanding satire: Jezebel satirized the headline of yesterday’s terrible Wa Po editorial. http://jezebel.com/if-you-want-to-stop-violence-against-women-ban-men-1589233029/all

Predictably the comments sections is fall of whiny not all menzers who didn’t get that it is satire.

Athywren
Athywren
6 years ago

@constellarmaid

I know this is a little old, but

I’m sure this is a terrible Beta thing to say, but I’d rather have a handful of deep and fulfilling notches than hundreds of shallow and meaningless notches. It’s like if you’re digging for gold… you may well find some prettily glittery stuff by scratching through the topsoil, but dig deep and you’ll find some real nuggets that are worth more than you could ever find from a lifetime of picking at the surface.

seems like a kind of counterproductive and slutshamey way to mock PUAs…I get the point you’re going for, though.

I see your point. Though, to clarify my position, it’s not that having hundreds of “notches” is a bad thing, or even their being shallow. I have no problem at all with strings-free sex – it’s not my thing, but it’s a perfectly acceptable thing. What I do have a problem with, though, is the idea that pursuing one night stands is the only acceptable thing; that preferring long term, deep relationships is somehow something to be ashamed of, that it makes you less of a man. I don’t care about being a man anyway, personally, but it’s still ridiculous to consider those who do to be less worthy of the label just because they don’t approach sex the same way that PUAs do.

Athywren
Athywren
6 years ago

For the record, I recognise that this part is a false dichotomy:

I’d rather have a handful of deep and fulfilling notches than hundreds of shallow and meaningless notches.

BabyLawyer
BabyLawyer
6 years ago

Robert –

The MRM has little to no understanding of the role of govt, how govt works, the law, or the constitution…

This shit pains me every single day. And not just in the MRM context, either. If I had a nickel for every confidently asserted and patently false “legal conclusion” I’ve seen on social media…(especially the FREEZE PEACH, PC POLICE!!1! types.) Like, no one expects regular folks to understand the subtleties of say, the Internal Revenue Code, but seriously. We’re talking First Amendment shit here. And of course, it never crosses their minds that there is also this thing called “case law” of which there is quite a lot and which has a lot to say about what’s Constitooshunul and what’s Unconstitooshunul.

A personal example: Mr. Baby’s virulently conservative, racist, and dumb as rocks coworker who informed me that the courts cannot overturn state gay marriage ban amendments because they were voted on by the people. Sir. SIR. I tried to explain what Madison said in Federalist No. 10, judicial review, Supremacy Clause, Equal Protection Clause…yeah, none of that sunk in. Lib-rul propaganda, all of it! (Well, he also confidently told me that the Civil War had nothing to do with slavery, so…)

I mean, that’s the level of understanding we are dealing with, and most of them have absolutely no clue how wrong they are. Pretty ironic, especially when it comes from self-declared PATRIOTS who love their Constitutooshun so much.

Whoa, that got off topic. Sorry, clearly I needed to get that off my ample lady-chest of misandric temptation.

BabyLawyer
BabyLawyer
6 years ago

And I lost to the blockquote monster. Undefeated no longer. Damnit.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
6 years ago

If social justice warriors on sites like these buried the hatchet and realized both genders are oppressed by a priviledged financial class in north america, and focused their energies on fighting gender crimes in other countries and dismantling real sexism in western culture

“SJWs”, “Class > everything”, “women elsewhere have it worse” and “let me mansplain you about real sexism”: you basically scored BINGO in one sentence. Not sure if that’s something to be proud of, but “A” for effort!

You got bingo — you missed “both genders are oppressed” // men have it just as bad. If guess you could fold it into the mansplaing, but I’d call it its own fallacy.

constellarmaid
constellarmaid
6 years ago

@Athywren yeah, that’s definitely a point I can get behind! The phrasing just made me uncomfy, thanks for understanding. 😀

(I’m always blown away when I can have a discussion like this and it doesn’t blow up within the first post. Discussion is a beautiful thing. :’D)

Robert
Robert
6 years ago

WWTH, that reminds me of an apocryphal episode during Golda Meir’s time as PM. There had been a series of rapes in Jerusalem, and someone in the Cabinet proposed a curfew on women being out after sunset as a preventive. Meir allegedly replied, “Why on the women? They’re not the ones doing the raping.”

Athywren
Athywren
6 years ago

(I’m always blown away when I can have a discussion like this and it doesn’t blow up within the first post. Discussion is a beautiful thing. :’D)

Oh yeah… I’d totally forgotten that we feminazis are dogmatic radicals…
How dare you question my words?! EN GARDE!!

constellarmaid
constellarmaid
6 years ago

Oh yeah… I’d totally forgotten that we feminazis are dogmatic radicals…
How dare you question my words?! EN GARDE!!

(insert quip about left-handedness here)

enhancedvibes
enhancedvibes
6 years ago

@babylawyer

I believe I made the comment you are responding to. Anyway, THIS all day long. What MRAs do not understand about govt and the law could fill all the many bodies of water of the world and then the unknown rivers and craters on Mars and then it could colonize LV-426 and…….

The free speech thing — after that silly Duck Dynasty fake attention grab by the network, i was awestruck by the conservatives, specifically all the elected officials, who were making hilariously stupid comments expressing their lack of understanding of free speech. It’s the same with these losers.

Patriot has hollow meaning for me given how the people who profess to be patriots the loudest, again, don’t seem to understand the constitution. There is NO non-religious argument against the right to choose or marriage equality. NONE. Every single anti argument is rooted within Christianity.

Winter Walker
6 years ago

It’s a wee bit late, but I just glanced over at my history bookshelf and noticed books by Margaret Murray and Rosalie David, both brilliant archaeologists. (Archaeology counts as a science, right?) Margaret Murray was studying the ancient dead at Cambridge at the turn of the last century, when most British women wouldn’t even dream of getting degrees. Rosalie David more or less invented the field of paleopathology, where the remains of ancient peoples are studied in order to learn what illnesses were prevalent in their times. She’s autopsied more mummies than anyone, as far as I know.

And of course, I must mention Mary Wolstonecraft, who wrote the first programming language for one of the first proto-computers. In a sense, she was also the grandmother of sci-fi, as her daughter, Mary Wolstonecraft Shelley, arguably created the genre when she wrote “Frankenstein”.

Ally S
6 years ago

@Winter Walker

I might be wrong about this, but I’m pretty sure that it was Ada Lovelace who invented the first programming language, not Mary Wollstonecraft.