It’s the eternal question: do misogynists spend their entire lives looking for excuses to get mad at women, or are they so naturally enraged by any evidence of female autonomy that they can’t help but erupt in rage over the tiniest of things?
We may never know the answer to that question. What we do know: almost anything can provoke them, no matter how trivial it is, no matter how misguided their anger might seem to anyone who doesn’t actually, you know, hate women. Let’s look at some of the latest things to cause women-haters to lose their shit.
1) British tennis champ Andy Murray’s announcement this week that he was hiring former female tennis champion Amélie Mauresmo as his coach. Even though she’s, you know, a lady.
On Twitter, as Buzzfeed has chronicled, some have taken exception to Mauresmo’s status as a non-man.
https://twitter.com/zainmohammed786/status/475642785979449344
https://twitter.com/ollieman_95/status/475620687391260672
Others have suggested that maybe she’s more of a man than him – ho ho!
Amelie mauresmo to be andy murray's new tennis coach! About sums him up he plays like a woman only she's more man than he'll ever be.
— Paul Kemp (@53pkempy) June 8, 2014
Why it would matter to any of these people just whom someone who is not them wants as his coach remains unclear.
2) An article on the Huffington Post noting that on D-Day, one woman – war correspondent Martha Gellhorn – accompanied the 150,000 men who stormed the beaches.
It’s an interesting story: all the female correspondents who requested spots on the boats were turned down, so she ended up sneaking her way into the invasion by hiding in a ship’s bathroom.
But over on the A Voice for Men forums, someone called Humansplaining w/ Jarred is outraged that “Feminists can’t even let Men have D-DAY for themselves!”
Here we are on the 70th anniversary of a watershed moment in one of the bloodiest wars in human history, where thousands of men selflessly gave their lives, and some Feminist feels the need to devote an entire article to the fact that there was also ONE woman involved! There you go, it’s official – the ratio of worth from women to men, is 1:150,000. Those two are completely equal in the eyes of many Feminists, apparently. You can spend all your time relaying the experiences of that one female in great detail, without even the slightest nod to the individual experiences of those 150,000 other human beings that were involved, many of whom perished in the process. Because VAGINA.
Yep. That’s right. Telling the story of one woman on D-Day is an attack on all the men involved. Hell, let’s take that further. Any story told about any individual person involved in a collective effort should be considered a grave insult to all the others. Saving Private Ryan is an insult to all soldiers who weren’t Private Ryan!
3) LEGO is launching a new series of scientist minifigures – only this time, they’re women!
On the Justice for Men & Boys (and the women who love them) website, British MRA and would-be politician Mike Buchanan sniffs that this move by LEGO belongs in the
‘You couldn’t make this s*** up!’ file. Doubtless it will sell well to hatchet-faced mothers determined to quash any signs of femininity in their unfortunate daughters.
Apparently acknowledging the existence of female scientists is somehow an injustice to men and boys?
4) Older women sometimes have sex with younger men.
There’s a certain kind of man who likes to loudly declare just which women – or categories of women – he “wouldn’t bang.” Our old friend Heartiste – the white-nationalist, purple-prose-writing pickup guru – is a member of a slightly smaller subgroup: he gets angry when other men have sex with the women he’s declared unsuitable, a group which apparently includes all but 0.1% of women his age and older.
In a recent post, Heartiste lambastes the dating site CougarLife.com as a symptom of our “rapid cultural collapse.” Its crime? Matching up “mangy cougars” and their “dusty muffs” with “inexperienced younger men hauling a knapsack of blue balls.”
While Heartiste directs most of his hate at the so-called cougars themselves – for the crime of having sex while female and forty plus – he’s indignant that younger men, in his mind, allow themselves to resort to
the shabby hole of a bottom shelf jezebel to alleviate your incel. … a tepid squirt of pallid pleasure in exchange for your dignity and psychologically distressing confirmation that this is the best you might ever do.
Apparently the idea that a younger man and an older women might actually enjoy having sex with one another is too much for his fragile misogynist mind to take.
Indeed, it’s hard not to wonder if Heartiste actually likes sex at all – or if his own alleged lovemaking prowess extends much beyond a “tepid squirt.” This, after all, is a guy who thinks going down on a woman is “beta,” because burying your face in what he calls that “fetid, humid mess” is sort of icky, and might lead her to think that you think she’s hot.
And last but not least:
5) Some people are trying to get colleges to take rape more seriously.
In a column in the Washington Post, George Will sniffs that colleges, by addressing what he calls “the supposed campus epidemic of rape” are bestowing upon “’sexual assault’ victims” a “coveted status that confers privileges,” thus encouraging others to jump aboard the victimhood express.
Others have already torn apart Will’s argument pretty thoroughly. So I’ll just note one not-so-little irony: the headline for Will’s column, as it ran in the Post, was “Colleges become the victims of progressivism.”
Why is it that the people who most loudly condemn the supposed “cult of victimhood” are the first to claim that they’re the ones who are really being victimized – by “progressives,” by feminists, by female tennis coaches, by stories about women in war, by LEGO figurines of female scientists, by women they don’t like having consensual sex, by anti-rape activists trying to create a climate in which more than 12% of rape survivors on campuses feel safe enough to report their rapes?
Of course, I’m using the term “reasoning” in connection with Mikey B. very loosely.
Mikey’s a Brit. Sometime, somehow he must surely have heard of Dame Julia Slingo who’s the Chief Scientist at the Met Office. In Britain.
In Australia, the head of the CSIRO is a woman geologist, Megan Clark.
Both women currently occupy those positions and have done so since 2009. Does that count as “modern”?
Also in the UK, Jil Matheson is the UK National Statistician, Head of the Government Statistical Service (GSS) and Chief Executive of the UK Statistics Authority (she was also appointed in 2009). This includes executive responsibility for the UK Office for National Statistics (ONS). You know, the ONS that produces all those statistics that Mikey B. deliberately mishandles to try and promote his bigotry.
He probably just blames Dame Julia Slingo for the weather and as for statistics, well, you know what lying liars statisticians are, saying more than one in a million women’s ever been raped. It’s all part of the feminazi gummint conspiracy, I tell you!
Well, now it all makes sense. A woman is MISANDERING with statistics in the UK!
Oh my god this is pure gold. And none of it is in the least surprising. Women in sports has always been something that has been treated as a joke, women daring to get mentioned for their bravery is always misandry, LEGOS ARE TOYS FOR BOYS DAMMIT AND SCIENCE IS THE FOR THE MENZ WOMEN ARE STUPID AND SHOULD PURSUE ART AND NURSING, cougars are looked down on in a moment of delicious hypocrisy for doing the same thing a much larger number of men do, and we’ve all seen how men (and a lot of society in general) get their panties in a twist about trying to deal with campus rape.
And gosh, could that Mike guy have shamelessly promoted himself any more in his comments on here. “It’s me. Mike. Mike Buchanan. Mike Buchanan and j4bm.wordpress. Hey. Look at my site. Please. I can’t get enough views I’m so desperate I’ll pathetically attempt to get people who think I’m a knob to view my shitty misogynistic blog.”
That’s just how I saw it, maybe I’m wrong.
Lids, nope, that was dead accurate. 😀
@enhancedvibes
Well it’s not an insult that I’m familiar with, and basically all I could get from it is big, sharp nose, such as is found on antisemitic charicatures. I’m not really sure where else you could go with it, to be honest.
@Kitteh
Ok… I guess that works. It doesn’t seem to fit what I know about any of the mothers of women I know who were feminists or wanted their children to be scientists, though.
Why, it’s almost as if they’re just making (irrelevant) shit up to shore up their (irrelevant) opinions, isn’t it?
@cassandrakitty
McConaughey. And that makes no sense to me… I guess the hard face thing might work, for certain definitions of hard, but sharp and grim? Not seeing it…
@Phoenician in a time of Romans
Oh, sure, taking it alone, it seems perfectly fine for a woman to be intelligent and independent, but think about it for a little while. For a woman to be intelligent, that means she’s going to be more intelligent than some men are. UNACCEPTABLE! For a woman to be independent, that means she’s not going to be forced to rely on a man. UNACCEPTABLE! For a woman to be both intelligent AND independent… she’ll be more intelligent than some men AND won’t be forced to rely on a man. Do you have any idea how awful such a world would be? Oh, the huge manatee.
Remember, an intelligent and independent woman is one who can challenge you intellectually, and who you can be sure would not spend private time with you if she didn’t enjoy your company. We must not stand for such things! Why should men be subjected to intellectual growth at the hands of women? Why should they have to be pleasant and fun people to be around? These developments will destroy civilisation as we know it!!!
@Kitteh
I’m sure this is a terrible Beta thing to say, but I’d rather have a handful of deep and fulfilling notches than hundreds of shallow and meaningless notches. It’s like if you’re digging for gold… you may well find some prettily glittery stuff by scratching through the topsoil, but dig deep and you’ll find some real nuggets that are worth more than you could ever find from a lifetime of picking at the surface.
Does ‘page view’ mean something different when you’re a screaming misogynist? Do they think they get a cake for every mystical ‘page view’?
Sorry losers, people becoming aware of your toxic views is good for us not you.
::shakes head sadly::
Sorry, Athywren, imma going to have to take your man card away now. Why, that’s not even beta stuff you’re talking there, it’s, it’s … talking about women like they’re people.
Talking about digging for gold had me thinking of carving one really deep notch in a bed post … which might not be a good idea, especially if you’re in a two-poster or something.
You guys spend an aweful lot of time writing articles about things people said in the ‘comments’ section of sites you don’t like, instead of attacking their philosophy directly.
@mildlymagnificent
I know it’s true, but can we stop saying this? It’s embarrassing.
@Kitteh
I know, I know, it’s irrational and smells of wee, but I just, you know, I do think women are people. I just can’t help it, I’m sorry… I think I need help.
No! Not my man card! NOOOO!
*Shrivels up and turns to dust, which blows away on the wind, briefly forming into a sad face before dispersing to the four corners of the earth.*
@paul
They don’t have a philosophy other than women cause all bad things for men, women bad, men have more problems than women. THAT is why we constantly mock their comments because they express quite clearly what their philosophy is in them. All they have is empty rhetoric so we shoot it back to them.
What, like the “philosophy” that women should be treated as inherently lesser than men?
paul, I think you’ve missed the point of this place entirely, but I’m guessing that’s not a new thing for you.
You might want to check the “about” section.
That said, there’s actually quite a lot of attacking their “philosophy” on this site, you’re just doing a thing called “cherry picking.”
XD
Trolls never seem to get the purpose of this blog, even with it stated right in the title.
Paul, this blog is about trying to understand the ideas (such as they are) and the atttitudes that permeate the misogynistic subculture of the internet. Comments reveal a lot about what rank-and-file MRAs, PUAs, etc etc believe. They’e certainly fair game,
Back when I was doing cutlural history in grad school, I would have killed to find good evidence of what ordinary people thought about the various ideas that were being written about in books and articles at the time. Now we have this kind of evidence. So I make use of it.
That said, while MRA ideas are interesting as a sociological phenomenon, they’re not that interesting as ideas.
The MRAs have very few ideas worthy of rebuttal — and almost none that I and other people have not already rebutted many times before.
I think I’ve grasped the point of this place quite accuratly. It’s a playground for children playing at biased gynocentric social justice to ridicule the other team. Sadly the ‘other side’ wastes a lot of cycles doing the same thing to you.
The sad fact is the femosphere and manosphere have a lot of important issues they want to solve, but have become so holed up in their gendered trenches, obsessed with lobbing cheap shots at the other side that not much happens — this is why the vast majority of the population finds feminism obnoxious and the men’s movement irrelevant — instead of talking about the issues, you lob mud-balls at each other like playground children.
If social justice warriors on sites like these buried the hatchet and realized both genders are oppressed by a priviledged financial class in north america, and focused their energies on fighting gender crimes in other countries and dismantling real sexism in western culture we could probably change the world pretty quickly, instead all we get are trite like this and to watch both sides expending all their energy railing each other.
It’s pathetic, as is almost every contributer to this site, and places like Jezebel, AVFM, name a hundred other, should feel ashamed of themselves for being utterly useless to society.
Real activism died with the birth of the internet. All we get now are coffee table argumenters who are more concerned with making fun of the other guy and coming across as funny while they do so.
Hey , everybody, while I’m here: I’m still looking for a few more volunteers to record brief statements for a little project I’m working on. It will all be anonymous.
If you’re interested and/or want to know more, email me (don’t post about it in the comments). It will definitely be worth it!
Actually you are all right. I should have read the description of the site. It clearly is about ‘mocking mysogyny’.. Well, since your mission in life is to ‘make fun of’ then you’re not really relevant to the gender rights movement at all.
I suppose you’ve ‘allied’ your selves with liberal feminists and have decided to take the approach of ‘we’ll just ridicule anyone who disagrees with us’ .. and for some reason feel that making a site to do it with some how contributes to the discussion.. It doesn’t. It just makes you seem like kids.
Basically, this site and its whole attitude is a shining example of why people are tuning out of the discussion.
My suggestion to mister Futrelle is to burn this site to the ground, and start a new one that actually talks about the real issues. But I know that won’t happen.
Have fun reading your troll fest circle jerk — it really is pathetic.
Paul, you do realize that feminists are actually out in the real world doing shit? They write books, write for real publications, run foundations, work at DV shelters and rape crisis centers, organize demonstrations that attract more than 30 people at a time, and so on and so forth.
Why would feminists want to “bury the hatchet” with men who think women are inferior, who write apologias for rape and domestic violence, and whose main idea of “activism” is harassing individual women? It’s a bit like asking civil rights activists to start working with the KKK.
*trigger warning*
So I saw some people posting this article about on FB earlier: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jun/05/law-graduate-guilty-falsely-accusing-boyfriend-rape
A few MRAs seem outraged that WAR are “taking the side of the woman” and are arguing that they are, in fact, defending falsely accusing men. They’ve been calling the response “propaganda” and “conspiracy theories”
This is WAR’s response to the case, where they argued the Police put more time and effort into finding the evidence of a false accusation over genuine rape cases:
http://www.womenagainstrape.net/content/rhiannon-brooker-%E2%80%93-victim-not-only-rape-miscarriag
I love chest hair. Am I really in the minority? It looks sexy and it tickles.
Look upon the loveliness of Pierce Brosnan in a sarong.
http://malecelebsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/pierce_brosnan7.jpg
See you are just trying to paint an entire movement with one brush. The only relevant, on-par reply would be for someone like me to say ‘why would i want to ally myself with a bunch of man-hating lesbians’.. When we all know that’s not what all femenists are like.
Why are all non-femenist gender rights activits, who may or may not have interest in some of what MRA’s are saying ‘men who think women are inferior’ .. because some idiot in the AVFM comments section is a bigot?
It’s unbelievable how you guys wear blinders about your own behviour, doublestandards and hypocricy on this site.
I mea, Paul Elam’s satire pieces are dreadful, but he id’s them as satire at least (the scum manifesto didn’t, but it apprently is satire). you then quote mine his articles, and some horse shit from the comments section and try to paint every man who frequents that site the the brush.
I’ve been following your site every day for months and see this in almost every article.
It’s pathetic.
You are pathetic.
Your site is beyond reprehensible.
“Paul, you do realize that feminists are actually out in the real world doing shit?” — I do, too bad you are not one of those feminists, nor is any serious reader of your site.
Anyways, I’m done here. Your opinion will never change. Go ahead and lambast me 🙂 I’ll keep fighting the good fight with a small minority while you kids duke it out and sully the whole movement in the eyes of the public..
Lol
unbelievable.