Men’s Rights Activists continue to make strategic use of the media attention they’ve gained as a result of the Elliot Rodger killings. Yesterday, Al Jazeera America ran an interview with A Voice for Men’s “US News Director” Robert O’Hara in which he touched upon numerous important Men’s Rights issues, like the fact that he doesn’t hate women because his mother is one, and how it was totally an amazing publicity coup for AVFM to be singled out as a misogynistic hate site by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Let’s look at some highlights from his Q and A. (The block quotes are direct quotes from the man, the legend, himself.)
Men aren’t having a giant patriarchy party all the time:
The idea of male entitlement is almost entirely a fabrication of feminist ideology. The idea that men kind of run the show – this patriarchy theory – and that we’re having a big huge party at the expense of women is really a hateful idea.
I don’t have the statistics with me but I’m totally sure that rape almost never happens:
We hear all these silly lies: there’s a rapist behind every corner; all men are potential rapists. …
I don’t have the exact statistics with me right now, but you’ll see it’s usually around 2 percent of women in their lifetime will have some kind of problem with sexual assault. …
[T]his whole rape things has been used by feminists to garner political power, lots of it, and money. The whole thing has been used as a scam.
(O’Hara’s claim about the rareness of rape was such a whopper that Al Jazeera felt obligated to note that a recent large-scale study by the Centers for Disease Control found that one in five women in America had experienced rape or attempted rape. Not one in fifty.)
When feminists talk about rape it apparently causes homophobia or unhealthy gay sex or something:
There’s no doubt that male sexuality has been demonized in our culture. And that’s a real shame. I think that inhibits a lot of men’s sexuality to the extent where it’s not healthy – especially homosexuals, especially gay men.
The Southern Poverty Law Center is totally irrelevant and besides they did us a favor by calling us hateful:
The SPLC, they’re not a credible organization, not like they once were. And I think the whole this of them listing us, or targeting us as a hate group didn’t work out too well for them. It worked out much better for us [in terms of publicity] than it did for them.
All you need is love:
I love women. My mom is a woman. … What I do not like is that we live in a culture and in a legal environment where if you do choose to have a relationship with a woman, it makes things very complicated and oftentimes dangerous.
Great job, Bob! Another flawless victory for the Men’s Rights Movement!
All mocking aside, I have found video proof of this last claim. Marriage can be very dangerous for men. Heck, they don’t even have to be the one getting married.
O’hara, every mother is a woman and you can still hate them. Examples: denying rape, confusing calling out harassment with ‘demonizing mens sexuality’ and saying having a relationship with a woman will be complicated and dangerous.
You just said that you hate women but you actually do. Epic fail
http://youtu.be/XoMlibeoin0
Oh and poor boy in that video. I think he stood too long and lost circulation in his legs.
What do feminists’ ‘silly lies’ about rape have to do with gay men?
Is being asked not rape women turning men gay?
Also I’m glad to hear that the vast majority of presidents/heads of state are feminists! Thats a turn up for the books!
Daintydougal
“Also I’m glad to hear that the vast majority of presidents/heads of state are feminists! Thats a turn up for the books!”
I didn’t know that! I’m glad too!
fruitloopsie: Every mother isn’t necessarily a woman, but I doubt mr O’Hara would recognise that anyway.
We just learn so much from them!
Daintydougal
“fruitloopsie: Every mother isn’t necessarily a woman”
Oh yeah that’s right
“but I doubt mr O’Hara would recognise that”
I doubt that too
This is such a great club!
What’s the difference between an MRA and a Chua? Chua are generally intelligent and capable of understanding science. (… I swear, that’s funny if you’re into the same stuff I am.)
I’d like to see his numbers for this… I’ve managed to reach the age of 28 without raping a single person, but I still find women attractive. Am I immunised by failing to identify as male, or am I walking a tightrope here, with an endless drop of rape beneath me, and becoming gay on the platform ahead of me?
And, seriously, I hate, hate, hate, this ridiculous idea that criticising harassment and rape is “demonising male sexuality.” No. They are not aspects of normal male sexuality, and claiming them as such is demonising male sexuality. I don’t understand how they make the exact generalisations that they accuse feminists of making, and still manage to pretend to be reasonable, rational people.
Speaking as a representative of AVFM O’Hara says that most rape accusations are lies.
Then he says demonizing male sexuality turns men gay and being gay is unhealthy.
Then he denies that AVFM is a hate group.
MRA manly STEMlogic continues to be unassailable!
Nezumi
I looked up chua and this is what I got:
https://forums.wildstar-online.com/forums/index.php?/topic/50615-looking-for-some-chua-style-inspiration/
Chua are from the game Wildstar is this what you’re talking about?
Zoon echoing Logan
Mgtow start off young I suppose
I’ve always read mother as “female parent”. Would a parent who isn’t a woman identify as a mother?
Also, “I don’t hate women! Some of my best parents are women!”
Wouldn’t a trans man or non-binary person with a vagina/uterus who has given birth be a mother? If you look at mother as the one who provided the egg and the father as the one who provided the sperm.*
Obviously the vast majority of misogynists have a woman for a mother, but it is theoretically possible for a misogynist to have a mother who isn’t.
* To be clear, I am not saying adoptive or step parents who didn’t provide the egg or sperm aren’t mothers and fathers.
IIRC Thomas Beatie (a trans man who was briefly famous for being pregnant) identifies as a father. I wouldn’t call a non-woman a mother unless they said iy was OK. To me the word is so inherently gendered and I wouldn’t want to misgender the person.
Good to know.
I wouldn’t personally call a non-woman parent a mother without permission. I was more thinking along the lines of how the kids identify their parents if that makes sense? I figured every family might be different and use different terms.
I suppose ‘mother’ is just a title. I was thinking the egg/supplier/incubator is just ‘mother’ but that isn’t the case I guess. I really shouldn’t start these things I know nothing about. Sorry chaps and chapesses and chapinis
Stupid ‘words’ with their stupid ‘meanings’.
Oh dog, Thomas Beatie. The founder of /r/MensRights repeatedly misgendered him the other day, purposefully. It was so terrible even the other misters downvoted him.
For some reason, I found the idea that Robert O’Hara is a pedicab driver (operator?) amusing. I just picture him pedaling around, hating women.
So, um, according to this dude, rape is such an essential part of male sexuality that criticising it (that’s criticising *rape*) demonises male sexuality and inhibits men to the extent they might turn gay – which is “unhealthy”?
There can be no “WHUT?” emphatic enough for this.
Remind me again – who are the man-haters? People who criticise rape, or people who claim that that’s just what guys are like, folks, what can ya do? (Yes, ALL guys except for the “unhealthy” ones, obvs).
Oh, and being gay is the result of a guy’s naturally rapey instincts being inhibited to an unhealthy degree…
Whats even more brilliant (not brilliant) is this guy is the “US News Director” saying these things in an actual interview that potentially anyone can get hold of! It’s not some random reddit post they can sweep under the carpet, this guy is officially saying what they believe! I wonder if there’ll be a response from elam.
Off topic: A guinea pig PUA! This might be the first cute PUA ever.
http://www.itv.com/news/2014-06-06/guinea-pig-to-become-father-to-400-after-breaking-into-female-enclosure/
weirwoodtreehugger,
The funniest bit is the idea that the father-to-be was so busy that he lost weight.
No, no, he was spermjacked!