So, hoping to find out any more information I could about those threats the A Voice for Men gang has apparently been getting lately, I forced myself to listen to 45 minutes worth of a regular AVFM YouTube show with the highly ironic name Intelligence Report. The topic of the show was ostensibly the “Death Threats in Detroit.” But somehow, AVFM’s Paul Elam, Dean Esmay and Tara Palmatier managed to reveal much less about this subject than they did about their own obsessions and insecurities.
At one point in their rambling conversation they began talking about how unfair it was that the Southern Poverty Law Center had profiled the AVFM gang as a bunch of woman-haters, when really the SPLC should be putting mean feminists on their Hatewatch list instead. And somehow this segued into a discussion of gendered slurs against women, and why it was just fine to use them, so long as you didn’t use them to refer to every single woman on planet earth.
And yes, I’ve saved a sound clip of this edifying discussion for you. You’re welcome!
Oh, just a little FYI, when Pauly says they never ever ever ever use the words “cunt” or “bitch” to describe women as a group — as if using those words is totally fine otherwise — he’s lying. At least when it comes to “cunt.”
With “bitch,” well, they’re awfully fond of the word, but technically I can’t recall a writer there calling literally every single woman on planet earth a bitch. I mean, granted, Elam once wrote an article titled Princess Miserable and the Great American Bitch Machine, in which he suggested that
feminism, consumer products, psychology, media, advertising, politics and social custom [have] all merged into one Great Big Bitch Machine; [and] the modern female psyche is nothing more than a product of that machine
But technically he’s not calling all women bitches there. Just saying that “modern female psyche” is the product of a “Great Big Bitch Machine.”
Not the same thing at all.
@Emmy Rae: Where is the Great Big Bitch Machine,
Far beyond the Manly Mountains, deep in the Swamps of Twatly, and guarded by the Shrieking Harridans of Feminism.
and can I ride my menstruation high horse to it?
Mandatory for the Swamps of Twatly, as I understand it.
Or should I convince a white knight mangina to drive me there under the auspices of sleeping with him, but reject him once we arrive?
I believe you’re supposed to sacrifice him to the GBBM when you arrive.
Why hasn’t anyone ever written a “Lord of the Swastika” style parody of MRA ranting?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Iron_Dream)
I wonder what the length of Dean’s pants were during this discussion.
Carriekube
I remember this response this girl gave (back when I was in middle school) when some guy called her a bitch: “Dogs are man’s best friend so you just complimented me.”
http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3q6wqp
I want a pre menstrual pegasus pony to fly my bitch vibe, spreading misandry wherever I go.
Cloudiah,
Curried pony sounds delicious! Thanks!
Can you choose a breed from the Great Big Bitch Machine? I’d like a standard poodle in chocolate brown, please.
I watched an old Louis Theroux piece last night. Whilst hanging with Khalid Abdul Muhammad he encountered a pair of pony skin britches he was alarmed by. Khalid Abdul Muhammad proceeded to accuse him of caring more about the ponies than black people,
And I used a comma instead of a period. How embarrassing.
Could’ve been worse, could’ve been a two-dot ellipsis. 😉
Marinerachel,
Have you heard! Puncution, speling and proper gramer are missandry
I’m off to self-flagellate. I must do so as a penance. I can’t bear the shame of improper punctuation and the suffering it causes les menz.
YOU CAN’T EAT THE PONY.
The pony is for you to ride around your neighborhood, purchasing take-out curry.
@ kittehserf
I would say I want a Husky, a Malamute, or a Newfie, but if she’s going to be protecting me from Elam & co maybe I should get a Rott instead.
@ talacaris
Very excitable religion will save you from puking your guts out in the street as a result of drinking too much and then being shot by elves? I got nothing, man.
@cassandra
I’m just reading a book where there’s a very protective standard poodle called Lamb, and he reminds me of one I knew, called Ruby, so that was the first breed that came to mind.
I wouldn’t mind a retired greyhound, if I were actually looking for a dog, though given their reputation as couch potatoes, it could mean competition for seating room, and I don’t think I’d win.
@Talacaris: All I can say is that I was expecting the protagonist to turn into a werewolf for literally the entire video.
Ooh, there’s a greyhound rescue somewhere around here (as well as one for the sled dog breeds), so I see former racing greyhounds walking around with their people sometimes. They seem to be super sweet dogs, though yep, apparently rather lazy. You could think of them as an extra blanket for when it’s chilly at night?
A Malamute might work, actually. My old friend’s Malamute was the sweetest dog most of the time, would let kittens treat him like a climbing frame, but the one time a stranger tried to enter a room while she was asleep the dog went right for the guy’s throat. Lucky the dude was able to shut the door before the dog got to him, but he was terrified afterwards.
cloudiah! Telling David what to do with his pony is clearly misandry. As is recommending take-out.
Good work!
Gad, I wouldn’t let a greyhound sleep on my bed! 😀 I used to get serious Cat Back when Katie took up 3/4 of the bed, I daren’t think what it would be like with a big dog.
Dogs are all hypothetical, though. There’s neither room nor money for one, and I’d much sooner get another kitty, but even that’s not happening. ::gnashes teeth::
talacaris – add me to the “nope, no idea” club for that video.
I just kept thinking most of the collection plate would be going to preacher dude’s hairdresser and tanning salon.
piratejennie, love your new kitty gravatar. Is that your Furrinati overlord?
Shame the preacher wasn’t around for our “products for curly and wavy hair” thread the other day.
Also kind of funny to be trying to decode Talacaris’ video while Mr C is sitting watching the NHL playoffs and bemoaning the retirement of Teemu Selanne.
Well what was all that talk about currying its coat then?
Can I have pony pizza at least? Or microwaved Pony Puffs? I mean, they barely have any real pony in them at all. I think they’re mostly burro.
Rescue greyhounds are the sweetest.
My aunt has one. He’s totally a couch potato, but if you’re there first he’s very dainty about picking out a spot without stepping on anyone.
The little rat-terrier though, that girl has absolutely no concept of personal space. She likes standing on peoples chests, to better lick the inside of their noses.
David, NO EATING THE PONY.
… You can have a pony-cookie.
They’re made of mostly peppermint. Ponies like them, and as a person, they’re still pretty good.