Most of those in the manosphere, whatever their real feelings, have been relatively circumspect about expressing sympathy with, or support for, Elliot Rodger. Sure, many manospherians – from MRAs to PUAs to MGTOWs – have long been half-warning, half-threatening those of us in the “blue pill” world that angry young men are going to rise up and take a sort of self-styled revenge upon their supposed female and feminist oppressors.
But when one man actually launches a “Day of Retribution” intended to punish the “blonde sluts” of the world (as well as any man who roused his ire or got in his way), most manospherians have tried to change the subject, denying any connection between his ideas and theirs, and in some cases even trying to pretend that the man who wanted to watch all women die in concentration camps wasn’t even a misogynist at all.
That’s not the case over at the CoAlpha Forum, a self-proclaimed “Reactionary Free Speech Forum” given over to a strange and scary patriarchal variant on manosphere ideology.
The main thing keeping the CoAlphas from celebrating Elliot Rodgers as an Incel Hero? He killed too many men – and didn’t “butcher” enough “sorority girls.”
In one thread immediately following the shootings, the CoAlphas wondered why Rodger didn’t kill more women. Cornfed complained:
Fschmidt, one of the site’s administrators, offered a distinct lack of sympathy to the victims, and indeed any victims of any killings in the United States.
Vegeta2 just came out and said it: In his eyes, Elliot would have been a true hero — if he had only killed more women.
Cornfed was also less than impressed with Rodger’s “haul” as a spree killer:
In a second thread started several days after the killings, fschmidt postulated that Elliot Rodger’s real problem was that he was a “man of integrity” who suffered because he was pressured to “try to fit into a depraved culture that he could never really be a part of.”
And suprisingly, he got some pushback from one commenter. Though Moralmoe91 made clear that he “agreed with most of Rodger’s criticisms of: women, society as a whole, and the messed up male/female dynamics that are rampant today,” he just couldn’t agree with the killing, which he thought was wrong because, you know, killing is bad, and also very likely to cause big problems for incels and antifeminists like him.
Fschmidt offered a rather chillingly blase response to Moralmoe91’s contention that killing people was not such a great idea.
I don’t understand the point of condemning his actions. I mean, I don’t approve but I am not particularly against the death of Americans.
In a series of coments, poor Moe did his best to explain to fschmidt that Rodger’s actions might end up hurting him too. And he repeated his apparently quite controversial notion that murder is actually bad.
No dice. Fschmidt was convinced by none of it. Not even the bit about murder.
Murder? Killing is only murder when one kills a member of one’s own culture. Modern Western culture is not my culture, so I do not consider killing its members to be murder.
That may be the creepiest thing I’ve read since Elliot Rodger’s manifesto.
According to her blog, she’s called the police – and quite rightly.
Not too surprisingly, the offending account has been deleted, but hopefully it’s still traceable.
I’m glad she’s contacted the police, Wetherby. I hope to God they charge this scum.
That evil shit-stain needs to be locked up until he realizes he’s not a fucking god, and that other people are just as important as he is. Just…ugh >:(
That kik harassment – wow, no entitlement there! Good for her that she stood up to that scum-sucker’s threats. I hope she can stay safe and comfortable.
What are all these guys going to do if they succeed in harassing women off the internet? Will they have a “Mission Accomplished” party? Or will they sit around and whine because they don’t have any girls to talk to, god, they were just kidding about all that skin suit stuff, why can’t women take a joke?
I hope the police actually take it seriously.
Cassandrakitty,
I have a daughter her age.
Miserable misogynist, harasser scum….
I hope the cops are on his doorstep asap, but I won’t hold my breath.
Nah, I’m sure he didn’t really mean it. He’ll assure them that it was all a prank, maybe admit that he got carried away, but he’s really sorry and he’ll never do it again. And the officers will say what a nice man he was and tell her not to worry her pretty little head.
*nods*
Look, there are millions of guys out there,like Rodgers, with “no game”, and you never notice them, or see them or even care about them, until something like this happens, and we suddenly say, “Gee. how do these things happen?”. Wake up!