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Is The Mankind Initiative's #ViolenceIsViolence video a fraud?

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The ManKind Initiative, a UK organization devoted to fighting domestic violence against men, recently put out a video that’s been getting a lot of attention in the media and online, racking up more than six million views on YouTube in a little over a week.

The brief video, titled #ViolenceIsViolence, purports to depict the radically different reactions of bystanders to staged incidents of domestic violence between a couple in a London plaza. When the man was the aggressor, shoving the woman and grabbing her face, bystanders intervened and threatened to call the police. When the woman was the aggressor, the video shows bystanders laughing, and no one does a thing.

The video has been praised by assorted Men’s Rights Activists, naturally enough, but it has also gotten uncritical attention in some prominent media outlets as well, from Marie Claire to the Huffington Post.

There’s just one problem: The video may be a fraud, using deceptive editing to distort incidents that may well have played out quite differently in real life.

A shot-by-shot analysis of the video from beginning to end reveals that the first “incident” depicted is actually a composite of footage shot of at least two separate incidents, filmed on at least three different times of day and edited together into one narrative.

A careful viewing of the video also reveals that many of the supposed “reaction shots” in the video are not “reaction shots” at all, but shots taken in the same plaza at different times and edited in as if they are happening at the same time as the staged “incidents” depicted.

Moreover, none of the people depicted as laughing at the second incident are shown in the same frame as the fighting couple. There is no evidence that any of them were actually laughing at the woman attacking the man.

The editing tricks used in the video were brought to my attention by a reader who sent me a link to a blog entry by Miguel Lorente Acosta, a Professor of Legal Medicine at the University of Granada in Spain, and a Government Delegate for Gender Violence in Spain’s Ministry of Equality. He goes through the video shot by shot, showing each trick for what it is.

The post in Spanish, and his argument is a little hard to follow through the filter of Google Translate, so I will offer my own analysis of the video below, drawing heavily on his post. (His post is still worth reading, as he covers several examples of deceptive editing I’ve left out.)

I urge you to watch the video above through once, then follow me through the following analysis.

The first “incident” is made up of footage taken at three distinct times, if not more. The proof is in the bench.

In the opening shot of the video, we see an overview of the plaza. We see two people sitting on a bench, a man in black to the left and a woman in white to the right, with a trash can to the right of them. (All of these lefts and rights are relative to us, the viewers.) The trash can has an empty green bag hanging off of it.

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As the first incident begins, we see the same bench, only now we see two women sitting where the man was previously sitting. The trash can now has a full bag of trash sitting next to it.

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In this shot, showing bystanders intervening in what is portrayed as the same fight, and supposedly depicting a moment in time only about 30 seconds after the previous shot, we see that the two women on the bench have been replaced by two men, one in a suit and the other in a red hoodie. The full trash bag has been removed, and the trash can again has an empty trash bag hanging off of it.

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Clearly this portion of the video does not depict a single incident.

What about the reaction shots? The easiest way to tell that the reaction shots in the video did not chronologically follow the shots that they come after in the video is by looking at the shadows. Some of the video was shot when the sky was cloudy and shadows were indistinct. Other shots were taken in direct sunlight. In the video, shots in cloudy weather are followed immediately by shots in roughly the same location where we see bright sunlight and clear shadows.

Here’s one shot, 9 seconds in. Notice the lack of clear shadows; the shadow of the sitting woman is little more than a vague smudge.

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Here’s another shot from less than a second later in the same video – the timestamp is still at 9 seconds in. Now the plaza is in direct sunlight and the shadows are sharp and distinct.

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If you watch the video carefully, you can see these sorts of discontinuities throughout. It seems highly unlikely that the various reaction shots actually depict reactions to what they appear to be reactions to. Which wouldn’t matter if this were a feature film; that’s standard practice. But this purports to be a depiction of real incidents caught on hidden camera and presented as they happened in real time.

The issue of non-reaction reaction shots is especially important when it comes to the second incident. In the first incident, we see a number of women, and one man, intervening to stop the violence. There is no question that’s what’s going on, because we see them in the same frame as the couple.

In the second incident, none of the supposed laughing onlookers ever appear in the same frame as the fighting couple. We have no proof that their laughter is in fact a reaction to the woman attacking the man. And given the dishonest way that the video is edited overall, I have little faith that they are real reaction shots.

The people who are in frame with the fighting couple are either trying resolutely to ignore the incident – as many of the onlookers also did in the first incident – or are clearly troubled by it.

I noticed one blonde woman who looked at first glance like she might have been laughing, but after pausing the video it became clear that she was actually alarmed and trying to move out of the way.

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There is one other thing to note about the two incidents. In the first case, the onlookers didn’t intervene until after the man escalated his aggression by grabbing the woman by her face. In the second video, the screen fades to black shortly after the woman escalates her aggression to a similar level. We don’t know what, if anything, happened after that.

Is it possible that the first part of the video, despite being a composite of several incidents, depicts more or less accurately what happened each time the video makers tried this experiment? Yes. Is it possible that onlookers did indeed laugh as the woman attacked the man? Yes.

But there is only one way for The ManKind Initiative to come clean and clear up any suspicion: they need to post the unedited, time-stamped footage of each of the incidents they filmed from each of their three cameras so we can see how each incident really played out in real time and which, if any, of the alleged reactions were actual reactions.

In addition to the editing tricks mentioned above, we don’t know if the video makers edited out portions of the staged attacks that might have influenced how the bystanders reacted.

The video makers should also post the footage of the incidents that they did not use for the advert, so we can see if reactions to the violence were consistently different when the genders of attackers and victims were switched. Two incidents make up a rather small sample – even if one of these incidents is actually two incidents disguised as one.

Domestic violence against men is a real and serious problem. But you can’t fight it effectively with smoke and mirrors.

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emilygoddess
10 years ago

Anand, if you’re trying to learn about feminism from AVfM, you’re just gonna set yourself back. The version of feminism they claim to be working against is a creation of their own fevered imaginations, so I have no idea what they could possibly teach you. But I suspect you’re bullshitting us about that detail, anyway…

cloudiah
10 years ago

Does anyone need brain bleach?

emilygoddess
10 years ago

Basically, reading MRA sites to learn about feminism is like reading Answers In Genesis (Wikipedia page) to learn about the theory of evolution. They’re not only wrong about the issue at hand, they can’t even discuss it properly because they’re so massively wrong about their opposition’s point of view.

Anand
Anand
10 years ago

Emilygoddess, i dont really spend much time on avfm. I dont really learn things from there. I just try to understand their perspective. I have a habit of never dismissing something without going to its core. I need to convince myself that avfm is completely misogynistic before i can dismiss them as a joke. Im being genuine here but you still have a right to not believe me and i respect that.

Cheers to all readers. Have a nice day. 🙂

emilygoddess
10 years ago

So AVfM is ” Its one of the many sites that i visit when i read up on feminism “, but not because you’re trying to learn from them. You just want to “understand their perspective”.

Are you even trying to keep your bullshit consistent?

thehazelbee
thehazelbee
10 years ago

He IS the supreme information master. So neutral, much unbiased, very rationality!

brooked
10 years ago

There a famous quote from Carl Sagan about how you should have an open mind, but not so open that your brain falls out. You don’t have to go by personal experiences, academics and experts have studied DV for decades and there is a ton of research out there. AVFM isn’t offering a well-researched counter argument, they’re rejecting an entire field of study solely by claiming it’s a feminist conspiracy of liars. It’s crank bullshit.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

So, Anand doesn’t give a fuck that he hurts people who have experienced misogyny by playing devil’s advocate and arguing that it’s similar to the pain men experience. Yet he wants us to feel bad for not coddling his fee fees?

Anand, you have the male privilege of leaving this site to not hear what you deem offensive things about you and your privilege and your blindness to it.

I don’t have that privilege. I hear offensive shit about women constantly. Misogyny is everywhere in our culture and it is overwhelming.

This is one of the few spaces I can be sure the vast majority of people will be opposed to misogyny. That’s why we have each other’s back here and don’t coddle trolls. You can safely spew your crap elsewhere. So fuck off.

Faint Praise
Faint Praise
10 years ago

Has anyone reached out to The Mankind Initiative for comment?

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Thanks for the kitten hugs Fruitloopsie!

Anand’s understanding of feminism kind of reminds me of white conservative’s understanding of Martin Luther King Jr. The people who think the his preference for non-violent resistance meant that he was all cuddly and sweet to assholes, the people who don’t know anything he talked about besides the quote about being judged by content of character instead of skin color. The people who completely gloss over his radical politics.

Is that making sense to people?

I just think boiling down feminism to wanting everyone to be equal is a gross oversimplification that doesn’t quite cover it.

bunnybunny
10 years ago

I need to convince myself that avfm is completely misogynistic before i can dismiss them as a joke.

You must be reading very slowly if you haven’t figured that out yet.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Anand: Aw, did I hurt your feels? Trust me, I find what you’re saying to be orders of magnitude more offensive than anything I could come with.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

I need to convince myself that avfm is completely misogynistic before i can dismiss them as a joke.

Seriously? Just how full of shit are you?

Ally S
10 years ago

Most of what i read there is extrememly boring or filled with inaccuracies and sometimes sprinkled with misogyny.

[CN: rape]

Yeah, sprinkles of misogyny. Like telling a woman who dresses like a “slut” and drinks excessively is a “conniving bitch” literally asking to be raped. What world do you live in again?

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

Anand:

. I just try to understand their perspective. I have a habit of never dismissing something without going to its core. I need to convince myself that avfm is completely misogynistic before i can dismiss them as a joke.

So, you’ve spent more than five on their site, enough time to pick up some of their lingo (“white knight,” “patriarchy unicorn”), but aren’t convinced that AVFM is misogynist? Really?

Really?

Really?

Really?

And AVFM is not a joke, it’s a misogynist hate site.

Like weirwoodtreehugger said, we don’t have the luxury of maintaining a neutral stance or playing devil’s advocate with misogyny. We re living with misogyny and its consequences on a daily basis.

And FFS, no, childbirth cannot be compared to being kicked in the testicles!

Anand
Anand
10 years ago

Weirwoodtreehugger, the last paragraph caught my attention and as an uninformed person, i would like to know what you consider to be defenition of feminism other than ‘equality between the sexes’ and how such a defenition oversimplifies things. Of course, if you’re up for it but i have a hunch you are more intrested in calling me a misogynist rather than to express your views without resorting to name calling. I’d really appreciate that.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Anand,
We are not your tutors. Go and do your own homework. This is a sight for mocking misogyny and that includes yours. You’ve been insulting and sexist from the get go. Don’t expect any hand holding.

Somebody open a window. It reeks of entitlement in here.

bunnybunny
10 years ago

Weirwoodtreehugger, the last paragraph caught my attention and as an uninformed person, i would like to know what you consider to be defenition of feminism other than ‘equality between the sexes’ and how such a defenition oversimplifies things.

Shit, I think he’s on to us.

Anand, as you may have suspected, the true definition of feminism is equality between the sexes, and also a deep and burning hatred of men.

This is the answer you were looking for, no?

Anand
Anand
10 years ago

Bunnybunny, No, i still believe that feminism means ‘equality between the sexes’. I just wanted to know why wierdwoodtreehugger described it as too simple. Im really curious.

Toolbox
Toolbox
10 years ago

The aim of feminism is gender equality. It has no other definition. How we can come to equality is the point of feminist discussion.

Or would prefer a definition where we confess that Feminism is secretly about hating men and trying to ruin mens lives? That this is a plot to make them submit to the Will of the Women with the intent of then luring them into our secret hive where our Lesbian Broodmare Mother who spawned us shall feast on them.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

It’s too simple because it is context free. It ignores the systemic misogyny are culture is steeped in and it isn’t as simple as hating people is bad. You also can’t ignore how misogyny in our society intersects with racism, homophobia, transphobia, classism, ableism and any other form of oppression.

That’s all the tutoring you’re getting from me. Try Googling feminism 101. There’s plenty of educational material online.

I’m not sure why you think we should spend all this time educating you when you can do your own homework. I’m also not sure why you want to debate us when you are so uninformed and then get your fee-fees hurt when you get your ass handed to you.

Anand
Anand
10 years ago

Weirwoodtreehugger, Thanks for taking the time to write a response. I can understand what you’re trying to say. Maybe because i dont experience misogyny, I may be oblivious to the extent of it. I will keep that in mind. As for getting offended, i do get offended when im called names. It’s been a childhood trauma for me since i was bullied a lot in middle school. I try to remove myself from such situations and that is why i was reluctant to reply to your earlier comment. Its something im working on. Thanks again for your time. Have a great day.

Omnicrom
Omnicrom
10 years ago

Anand, I cannot speak for weirdwoodtreehugger, but I suspect they’re taking issue with how little you understand of the Feminist movement and feminist goals.

You are utterly blinkered to things like privilege and the strong patriarchal forces of society. Your understanding of misogyny and misogynistic culture forces are minute. Your knowledge of the anti-women tendencies in culture is so small that the absolute raging misogyny of AVFM is beneath your radar, like a massive iceberg of hate you’re blind to.

Your view of feminism is also so biased (without you even appearing to realize it) by the MRA movement that you seem to genuinely be unsure if the feminist movement is full of violent man-haters. See that bit where you are “unsure” if they’re the majority and see also your confusion of whether the goal of feminism is “still” equality. Yes anand, the MRAs are lying to you, Feminism is “still” about equality between the sexs and not about killing all men or whatever AVFM tells you.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Anand: your childhood traumas are not our business or our problem, and fuck you for trying guilt trip us. That is a manipulative asshole behavior.

Maybe if you weren’t so damn offensive, you’d get a better reception here.

Anand
Anand
10 years ago

Omnicrom, i dont believe anything anyone says without defenite proof. I still have faith in feminism and that is not something a few badly written avfm articles can take away. Thanks for your reply. 🙂

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