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Is The Mankind Initiative's #ViolenceIsViolence video a fraud?

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The ManKind Initiative, a UK organization devoted to fighting domestic violence against men, recently put out a video that’s been getting a lot of attention in the media and online, racking up more than six million views on YouTube in a little over a week.

The brief video, titled #ViolenceIsViolence, purports to depict the radically different reactions of bystanders to staged incidents of domestic violence between a couple in a London plaza. When the man was the aggressor, shoving the woman and grabbing her face, bystanders intervened and threatened to call the police. When the woman was the aggressor, the video shows bystanders laughing, and no one does a thing.

The video has been praised by assorted Men’s Rights Activists, naturally enough, but it has also gotten uncritical attention in some prominent media outlets as well, from Marie Claire to the Huffington Post.

There’s just one problem: The video may be a fraud, using deceptive editing to distort incidents that may well have played out quite differently in real life.

A shot-by-shot analysis of the video from beginning to end reveals that the first “incident” depicted is actually a composite of footage shot of at least two separate incidents, filmed on at least three different times of day and edited together into one narrative.

A careful viewing of the video also reveals that many of the supposed “reaction shots” in the video are not “reaction shots” at all, but shots taken in the same plaza at different times and edited in as if they are happening at the same time as the staged “incidents” depicted.

Moreover, none of the people depicted as laughing at the second incident are shown in the same frame as the fighting couple. There is no evidence that any of them were actually laughing at the woman attacking the man.

The editing tricks used in the video were brought to my attention by a reader who sent me a link to a blog entry by Miguel Lorente Acosta, a Professor of Legal Medicine at the University of Granada in Spain, and a Government Delegate for Gender Violence in Spain’s Ministry of Equality. He goes through the video shot by shot, showing each trick for what it is.

The post in Spanish, and his argument is a little hard to follow through the filter of Google Translate, so I will offer my own analysis of the video below, drawing heavily on his post. (His post is still worth reading, as he covers several examples of deceptive editing I’ve left out.)

I urge you to watch the video above through once, then follow me through the following analysis.

The first “incident” is made up of footage taken at three distinct times, if not more. The proof is in the bench.

In the opening shot of the video, we see an overview of the plaza. We see two people sitting on a bench, a man in black to the left and a woman in white to the right, with a trash can to the right of them. (All of these lefts and rights are relative to us, the viewers.) The trash can has an empty green bag hanging off of it.

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As the first incident begins, we see the same bench, only now we see two women sitting where the man was previously sitting. The trash can now has a full bag of trash sitting next to it.

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In this shot, showing bystanders intervening in what is portrayed as the same fight, and supposedly depicting a moment in time only about 30 seconds after the previous shot, we see that the two women on the bench have been replaced by two men, one in a suit and the other in a red hoodie. The full trash bag has been removed, and the trash can again has an empty trash bag hanging off of it.

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Clearly this portion of the video does not depict a single incident.

What about the reaction shots? The easiest way to tell that the reaction shots in the video did not chronologically follow the shots that they come after in the video is by looking at the shadows. Some of the video was shot when the sky was cloudy and shadows were indistinct. Other shots were taken in direct sunlight. In the video, shots in cloudy weather are followed immediately by shots in roughly the same location where we see bright sunlight and clear shadows.

Here’s one shot, 9 seconds in. Notice the lack of clear shadows; the shadow of the sitting woman is little more than a vague smudge.

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Here’s another shot from less than a second later in the same video – the timestamp is still at 9 seconds in. Now the plaza is in direct sunlight and the shadows are sharp and distinct.

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If you watch the video carefully, you can see these sorts of discontinuities throughout. It seems highly unlikely that the various reaction shots actually depict reactions to what they appear to be reactions to. Which wouldn’t matter if this were a feature film; that’s standard practice. But this purports to be a depiction of real incidents caught on hidden camera and presented as they happened in real time.

The issue of non-reaction reaction shots is especially important when it comes to the second incident. In the first incident, we see a number of women, and one man, intervening to stop the violence. There is no question that’s what’s going on, because we see them in the same frame as the couple.

In the second incident, none of the supposed laughing onlookers ever appear in the same frame as the fighting couple. We have no proof that their laughter is in fact a reaction to the woman attacking the man. And given the dishonest way that the video is edited overall, I have little faith that they are real reaction shots.

The people who are in frame with the fighting couple are either trying resolutely to ignore the incident – as many of the onlookers also did in the first incident – or are clearly troubled by it.

I noticed one blonde woman who looked at first glance like she might have been laughing, but after pausing the video it became clear that she was actually alarmed and trying to move out of the way.

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There is one other thing to note about the two incidents. In the first case, the onlookers didn’t intervene until after the man escalated his aggression by grabbing the woman by her face. In the second video, the screen fades to black shortly after the woman escalates her aggression to a similar level. We don’t know what, if anything, happened after that.

Is it possible that the first part of the video, despite being a composite of several incidents, depicts more or less accurately what happened each time the video makers tried this experiment? Yes. Is it possible that onlookers did indeed laugh as the woman attacked the man? Yes.

But there is only one way for The ManKind Initiative to come clean and clear up any suspicion: they need to post the unedited, time-stamped footage of each of the incidents they filmed from each of their three cameras so we can see how each incident really played out in real time and which, if any, of the alleged reactions were actual reactions.

In addition to the editing tricks mentioned above, we don’t know if the video makers edited out portions of the staged attacks that might have influenced how the bystanders reacted.

The video makers should also post the footage of the incidents that they did not use for the advert, so we can see if reactions to the violence were consistently different when the genders of attackers and victims were switched. Two incidents make up a rather small sample – even if one of these incidents is actually two incidents disguised as one.

Domestic violence against men is a real and serious problem. But you can’t fight it effectively with smoke and mirrors.

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cloudiah
10 years ago

You know, I wish we could have a real discussion about how to deal with female-on-male IPV, that doesn’t hand-wave away the actual facts that female victims of male violence are still overwhelmingly disbelieved/not supported, that women are much more likely to be the victims of the most serious forms of IPV (battery, murder), that VAWA is in fact gender-neutral, and that many of the male “victims” of female violence are in fact the aggressors and are either making up the accusations or reporting defensive actions on the part of their female victims.*

But dishonest videos, trolls, and “well-intentioned” people who simply refuse to deal with facts make that really fucking hard.

*[Content note for violence] Someone brought this up earlier in the thread, I think, but an incident from Lundy Bancroft’s book illustrated this so well. The man described (as I recall) choking his female partner and slamming her against a wall. Trying to get away, she attempted to knee him in the groin. This made him so mad he hit her hard enough that she was permanently scarred. He described her as the aggressor in this incident, and he was the victim.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

Linked on Pharyngula, so credit to PZ for finding this one. Does not appear to be a series as I glanced at their other videos.

Enjoy 🙂

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

This video is pretty much a reenactment of every troll we’ve ever had here!

Ally S
10 years ago

@pallygirl

“There are no lesbians in the Gilmore Girls”

xD

That was fantastic.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

I’m glad you enjoyed it, and I didn’t get the Gilmore Girls reference at all as I have never seen the show. I don’t even know what the show is about. Maybe more than one female with the surname Gilmour?

Ally S
10 years ago

I forgot most of the show, but I used to be planted in front of the TV as a child while my mom and my sister watched the show, so I’m vaguely familiar with it.

Ally S
10 years ago

But yeah, it was/is a pretty hetero show, so the fact that some people may think it has lesbians is quite amusing.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
10 years ago

It was a pretty hetero show, and yet one of the femslashiest fandoms. I’ve been re-watching it and I’m not as enthused as I was the first time around, but I was inspired to rewatch by some really good Rory/Paris fic, so…

Viscaria
Viscaria
10 years ago

12 year old me was all about that show. Kelly Bishop is fantastic.

katz
10 years ago

But it is knowingly conveying something false – namely, by presenting a video that this heavily edited and therefore does not depict actual real-life hidden-camera events. That is dishonest no matter how one looks at it. If they just edited it and said “Hey, we’re making this video that doesn’t actually show real-life situations but is nevertheless used to highlight the problem of male victims being mistreated in public”, then their video wouldn’t be dishonest at all. But that’s simply not what they did.

This. “These are the authentic reactions of real people” is the implication of a hidden-cam scenario, and that’s dishonest because that’s not what’s happening.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
10 years ago

So this quote has been going around Tumblr, and I hope it’ll kind of clarify why this video in particular rubs me the wrong way”

“Men get raped and molested,’ should be a whole sentence. If you have to tack on the word ‘too,’ then you’re using the experience of male victims to silence females instead of giving them their own space.”

(it’s attributed to a user called theresalwaysalwayssomething, but the blog looks like it’s been stripped or something)

hrovitnir
hrovitnir
10 years ago

Oo, that’s good emilygoddess. I hate that it’s *hard* to talk about things that suck for men because (a) you actually get cis men arguing against you outside of social justice circles but also (b) these arseholes have made it so much of a competition that it seems to be impossible to try and normalise supporting men when they’re victimised without hurting women. Fucking bullshit.

Toolbox
Toolbox
10 years ago

I think that’s pretty much the crux of the issue. There’s too much of a competition being force fed, with that video just being another piece of the puzzle.

Besides, Erin Pizzey is associated with ManKind, so a middle finger to Women’s Aid is hardly unexpected.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

although after a bit of reading (thanks for the links) my support for the Mankind Institute is a little shaky now. The video itself, though, is a genuinely good addition to the discussion of gender-based violence (even while it sucks that MRAs are latching onto it with their slimy little paws).

Are you really not seeing why A is part of the reason that people think B is a bit questionable, and both are contributing to the fact that C is now happening?

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Also, in addition to what emilygoddess said, this isn’t actually a good clip. It’s trying to look real and failing, which inevitably leads to people debating the fakeness and details thereof rather than what they actually wanted people to be talking about. As activism it’s pretty ineffective. There’s nothing wrong with making PSAs that are obviously staged, but pretending to be documenting reality when you’re actually staging things is a no-no.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

It’s not like actual viral marketing campaigns for real life services and products ever went wrong:
http://www.lakestarmccann.com/blog/technology/the-top-10-viral-marketing-disasters-part-1-10-6/

http://www.lakestarmccann.com/blog/general-news/viral-marketing/top-10-viral-marketing-disasters-part-2-5-1/

So how could the Mankind Initiative have ever realised that people don’t like this type of ad?

/headdesk

pecunium
10 years ago

Azurain: You didn’t answer my core question here. Do you believe that the message the ad is conveying is likely to be false? It’s only dishonesty if it’s knowingly conveying an untruth.

And it is. Even if the data weren’t being bastardised the implication that this was a single pair of events being filmed and garnering honest response from the audience is a knowing untruth.

pecunium
10 years ago

Blanch: . Most of the feminist domestic violence advertising is filmed in a studio using actors for every role according to a script which always shows men as the perpetrator and women as the victim – its called propaganda.

Is is possible they are looking to reach women who have been abused? If so then the use of that as the message is what one would expect. They also make it plain they are dramatising. I, for one, don’t expect someone trying to sell me a pickup truck to be telling me how much pull at the the towbar a kingpin diesel has.

Just saying’.

pecunium
10 years ago

Azurain: Once again, the video was intended to illustrate something

And the “something” was a lie. You, however, seem to think that lying in a good cause absolves the person perpetrating the untruth. It doesn’t. One cannot do evil in the service of good.

Yes! Overwhemlingly so! In fact, over 90%. Somewhere around 95% of reported violence is committed by men (reported, but still, it’s a compelling statistic). I agree completely. The problem is, the small minority of victims who are male are more likely to be ridiculed for it than offered support, and if you disbelieve me on this I honestly don’t know what world you’re living in.

And you admit the inherent dishonesty in the message. As to what world I live in, this one. The real one, where men who make a complaint are treated more seriously than women who do. The one where people don’t say that a filmed attack on a woman was “blown out of proportion” and that perhaps she did something to, “provoke” the man who choked her in a public place.

Buy hey… go ahead trumpeting the value of a Truthy ad because it’s “honest” even if it’s fake.

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

And Ally Fogg is having a go at David’s post

http://www.donotlink.com/framed?42558

I recommend not reading the comments – they are, of course, swarming with MRAs determined to smear Womens Aid.

marinerachel
marinerachel
10 years ago

Ally Fogg’s been a tool on various occasions.

pallygirl
pallygirl
10 years ago

He’s not a tool, tools are useful (by definition).

He’s another MRA with a soapbox site. He brings nothing insightful to conversations.

ToolBox
ToolBox
10 years ago

If they actually watched the video they’d notice that the eye-lines are a mess, that there’s a dozen or so continuity errors, and that the people at the fence – the ones supposedly reacting – are the same between events. I think all we’ve done here, honestly, is say that it’s a little fishy.

I do like how they can’t help but try to take down Women’s Aid.

marinerachel
marinerachel
10 years ago

I do think Ally has the capacity to be useful. That’s what bums me out. He just isn’t. Demonising women for laughing at creepy dudes who approach them with “ur hot, can i fart on your tongue” and suggesting it might lead to them killing themselves and that we should feel sorry for them is just ridiculous. I am no one’s parent. It’s the parents’ job to teach their kids not to approach people like that, not the people are the targets of their unwanted sexual advances.

ToolBox
ToolBox
10 years ago

Also something else I’ve noticed in a lot of the debates springing up from this video is how much a lot of MRAs seem to despise “women’s only” aid. There’s been a few bellyaching that Women’s Aid only has male help because they’re ‘required to’ yet mention nothing about groups like ManKind having no services for women.

*rubs sore head*

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