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Is The Mankind Initiative's #ViolenceIsViolence video a fraud?

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The ManKind Initiative, a UK organization devoted to fighting domestic violence against men, recently put out a video that’s been getting a lot of attention in the media and online, racking up more than six million views on YouTube in a little over a week.

The brief video, titled #ViolenceIsViolence, purports to depict the radically different reactions of bystanders to staged incidents of domestic violence between a couple in a London plaza. When the man was the aggressor, shoving the woman and grabbing her face, bystanders intervened and threatened to call the police. When the woman was the aggressor, the video shows bystanders laughing, and no one does a thing.

The video has been praised by assorted Men’s Rights Activists, naturally enough, but it has also gotten uncritical attention in some prominent media outlets as well, from Marie Claire to the Huffington Post.

There’s just one problem: The video may be a fraud, using deceptive editing to distort incidents that may well have played out quite differently in real life.

A shot-by-shot analysis of the video from beginning to end reveals that the first “incident” depicted is actually a composite of footage shot of at least two separate incidents, filmed on at least three different times of day and edited together into one narrative.

A careful viewing of the video also reveals that many of the supposed “reaction shots” in the video are not “reaction shots” at all, but shots taken in the same plaza at different times and edited in as if they are happening at the same time as the staged “incidents” depicted.

Moreover, none of the people depicted as laughing at the second incident are shown in the same frame as the fighting couple. There is no evidence that any of them were actually laughing at the woman attacking the man.

The editing tricks used in the video were brought to my attention by a reader who sent me a link to a blog entry by Miguel Lorente Acosta, a Professor of Legal Medicine at the University of Granada in Spain, and a Government Delegate for Gender Violence in Spain’s Ministry of Equality. He goes through the video shot by shot, showing each trick for what it is.

The post in Spanish, and his argument is a little hard to follow through the filter of Google Translate, so I will offer my own analysis of the video below, drawing heavily on his post. (His post is still worth reading, as he covers several examples of deceptive editing I’ve left out.)

I urge you to watch the video above through once, then follow me through the following analysis.

The first “incident” is made up of footage taken at three distinct times, if not more. The proof is in the bench.

In the opening shot of the video, we see an overview of the plaza. We see two people sitting on a bench, a man in black to the left and a woman in white to the right, with a trash can to the right of them. (All of these lefts and rights are relative to us, the viewers.) The trash can has an empty green bag hanging off of it.

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As the first incident begins, we see the same bench, only now we see two women sitting where the man was previously sitting. The trash can now has a full bag of trash sitting next to it.

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In this shot, showing bystanders intervening in what is portrayed as the same fight, and supposedly depicting a moment in time only about 30 seconds after the previous shot, we see that the two women on the bench have been replaced by two men, one in a suit and the other in a red hoodie. The full trash bag has been removed, and the trash can again has an empty trash bag hanging off of it.

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Clearly this portion of the video does not depict a single incident.

What about the reaction shots? The easiest way to tell that the reaction shots in the video did not chronologically follow the shots that they come after in the video is by looking at the shadows. Some of the video was shot when the sky was cloudy and shadows were indistinct. Other shots were taken in direct sunlight. In the video, shots in cloudy weather are followed immediately by shots in roughly the same location where we see bright sunlight and clear shadows.

Here’s one shot, 9 seconds in. Notice the lack of clear shadows; the shadow of the sitting woman is little more than a vague smudge.

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Here’s another shot from less than a second later in the same video – the timestamp is still at 9 seconds in. Now the plaza is in direct sunlight and the shadows are sharp and distinct.

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If you watch the video carefully, you can see these sorts of discontinuities throughout. It seems highly unlikely that the various reaction shots actually depict reactions to what they appear to be reactions to. Which wouldn’t matter if this were a feature film; that’s standard practice. But this purports to be a depiction of real incidents caught on hidden camera and presented as they happened in real time.

The issue of non-reaction reaction shots is especially important when it comes to the second incident. In the first incident, we see a number of women, and one man, intervening to stop the violence. There is no question that’s what’s going on, because we see them in the same frame as the couple.

In the second incident, none of the supposed laughing onlookers ever appear in the same frame as the fighting couple. We have no proof that their laughter is in fact a reaction to the woman attacking the man. And given the dishonest way that the video is edited overall, I have little faith that they are real reaction shots.

The people who are in frame with the fighting couple are either trying resolutely to ignore the incident – as many of the onlookers also did in the first incident – or are clearly troubled by it.

I noticed one blonde woman who looked at first glance like she might have been laughing, but after pausing the video it became clear that she was actually alarmed and trying to move out of the way.

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There is one other thing to note about the two incidents. In the first case, the onlookers didn’t intervene until after the man escalated his aggression by grabbing the woman by her face. In the second video, the screen fades to black shortly after the woman escalates her aggression to a similar level. We don’t know what, if anything, happened after that.

Is it possible that the first part of the video, despite being a composite of several incidents, depicts more or less accurately what happened each time the video makers tried this experiment? Yes. Is it possible that onlookers did indeed laugh as the woman attacked the man? Yes.

But there is only one way for The ManKind Initiative to come clean and clear up any suspicion: they need to post the unedited, time-stamped footage of each of the incidents they filmed from each of their three cameras so we can see how each incident really played out in real time and which, if any, of the alleged reactions were actual reactions.

In addition to the editing tricks mentioned above, we don’t know if the video makers edited out portions of the staged attacks that might have influenced how the bystanders reacted.

The video makers should also post the footage of the incidents that they did not use for the advert, so we can see if reactions to the violence were consistently different when the genders of attackers and victims were switched. Two incidents make up a rather small sample – even if one of these incidents is actually two incidents disguised as one.

Domestic violence against men is a real and serious problem. But you can’t fight it effectively with smoke and mirrors.

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neuroticbeagle
10 years ago

42. Because it’s the meaning of life and everything

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

RE: woodyred

perhaps IT WAS inappropriate to post here

As a male survivor of abuse YES YOU DUMBSHIT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE. Imagine if YOU were that boy who got sexually assaulted. How would YOU feel if some chucklefuck posted videos of it to prove their point? And then said, “but it was up on the Internet anyway…”

Yeah, you really give a shit for that boy. Asshole.

RE: Mackenzie

women belittle the videos of men being abused.

We aren’t belittling the video of men being abused. Did you miss the rage at woodyred trying to post an ACTUAL video of an ACTUAL boy being actually abused? Yeah, right. You also apparently missed me discussing my actual experiences breaking up violence. But sure, keep feeling superior.

Be it an edited video or not, the message behind it is whats important.

Who cares if it’s true, as long as it has a message! Dumbass.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
10 years ago

And man-hater? Well, not really, but I must say that the more I see men talk over women, treat them like garbage in general, and ignore their boundaries in countless feminist discussions, the harder it is for me to not have an overall negative view of men. The existence of those few men who are genuinely kind and treat us as equals doesn’t change the reality that most men I know are misogynists.

Once upon a time, the dreaded Jezebel ran an essay entitles, “If I admit that man-hating is a thing, will you stop making it a self-fulfilling prophecy?” I don’t remember the article itself, but the title was just perfect.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Aw, I like foxes. They don’t deserve to be associated with this dumbass who furthers the abuse of children by posting videos of it and puts an asterisk in the word “rapists”.

(Why? Is this like when they decided that “creep” was an anti-male slur?)

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
10 years ago

But seriously, my connection to the Hivemind is on the fritz. What are we counting up to? It made sense when there was an impending Pelltdown, but now I’m confused.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
10 years ago

I’ve seen feminists use an asterisk in “rape” to avoid upsetting people.

I’ve also seen foxtroll here using creative spellings of swears, so I think he’s probably just used to a forum that censors certain words.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Huh. That seems kind of pointless if people can still tell which word you mean. Is this a Shakesville thing? But in the case of this guy, yeah, if he didn’t want to upset rape victims he wouldn’t be posting videos of children being abused.

katz
10 years ago

But seriously, my connection to the Hivemind is on the fritz. What are we counting up to? It made sense when there was an impending Pelltdown, but now I’m confused.

Stolen ice cream cones.

(Or else it is just a silly game and it is not counting up to anything.)

Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

Emilygoddess — we’re playing numbers ninja, not counting to anything oh her than to see how high we can get it.

Cassandra — don’t worry, my pharm student laid furry claims on foxes long before asshole here did.

Speaking of wild animals, I failed to mention that I saw a bunny in the BF’s yard!!

In not so wild animals, Puff wasn’t up for a photo shoot, I’ll try again tomorrow maybe. We’ll see how many snails I actually gave him and how gorged he is!

Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

Oh her? Other. Thanks autocorrect.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

OK, kind of random but I need someone to talk to about this.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jun/22/welsh-schoolboy-killed-girlfriend-court-told

Women hurt men just as often as men hurt women, huh? Bullshit.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

And here’s another one.

http://cratesandribbons.com/2014/06/02/when-women-and-girls-are-attacked-by-men-we-blame-everything-except-male-violence/

Yep, when men gang rape and murder girls who were seeking a private spot to pee the cause of the rape/murder is the lack of toilets, not the men who decided that raping and murdering girls would be a fun thing to do.

Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

I can’t read the second one, the first one is too fucked up. That bit about foxglove could work btw, if he knew what he was doing. Undetectable too unless specifically looking for it, would look like a natural death. (I can’t bring myself to deal with the rest, plants that are medicine in the right dose but potentially deadly? I can be clinical about that.)

pecunium
10 years ago

Kittehs: I don’t think anyone’s managed to fill the whole comments list since Ami Angelwings’ days.

I’ve done it once or twice, when catching up in the wee hours of the morning.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

It was the response from his friends that really bothered me. It’s the dudebro comments all over articles on the Rodger case all over again – any time a man feels aggrieved towards a woman, lots of other men and boys support him in whatever he says or does, up to and including murder. Because women aren’t people to them.

pecunium
10 years ago

woodyred: you people need to stop overusing that word misogyny – you’ll wear it out one of these days.

You people? That’s a tell.

As to the other, I should love to “wear out” misogyny. The days I can look at it and say it’s no longer relevant (i.e. worn out) is a day to celebrate.

Sadly I suspect I shall have to settle for lesser joys.

@Howard Bannister – oh I dont get to decide that. ha.

That’s right, you don’t. You, my darling boy, have a vested interest in denying it. I doubt you are as honest as David Duke, willing to admit your sexism as he is willing to admit his racism.

cloudiah
10 years ago

Yep, when men gang rape and murder girls who were seeking a private spot to pee the cause of the rape/murder is the lack of toilets, not the men who decided that raping and murdering girls would be a fun thing to do.

Right, like they wouldn’t have found another way to catch them when they were vulnerable.

I … might need to go back to the horse thread. Sometimes this world…

mildlymagnificent
10 years ago

It was the response from his friends that really bothered me. It’s the dudebro comments all over articles on the Rodger case all over again – any time a man feels aggrieved towards a woman, lots of other men and boys support him in whatever he says or does, up to and including murder. Because women aren’t people to them.

I’m not so sure about that. I think it’s more the casualisation and acceptance and “Just a joke”ness of violent language.

I remember my neighbour telling us about his sister being murdered by her husband. He’d been at the pub and saying, yet again, that he was going to kill her (because she’d been discussing all the legalities of leaving him with her brothers). He disappeared for a while and when he returned, ordered another beer and then said he’d been out for so song because he’d gone home and strangled her in her sleep. They laughed. They stopped laughing when he finally convinced them that he had, in fact, killed his wife. So then they convinced him to call the cops.

I see the same thing in this boy’s conversation with his mate. The response to the 2 days in advance text message “Sick, sick boy”. That’s all in the “just a joke” mode of talk about violence against women. Nobody takes it seriously until after the fact. If men made talk about such violence verboten in the way they’re being encouraged to kick back against rape jokes then perhaps the serious talk of this kind wouldn’t be hidden in the huge heap of casual “just a joke”s about murder and other violence.

Ally S
10 years ago

[CN: rape, antiblackness]

Men rape and murder teenage girls with impunity, and women and girls are constantly blamed for being victimized. Yet somehow when I avoid strange men for my own safety, I’m literally just as oppressive as a white supremacist who thinks that all black POC are criminals. MRAs don’t think any defensive measure is appropriate for women.

Ally S
10 years ago

Oh, and speaking of men who casually accept female suffering, a few days ago my mom and my step-dad had this man stay over. He was polite to us, but he also known for once saying he was glad the neighbor’s wife died because she was non-monogamous and bisexual. Yet most people would talk to him and think he’s just a sweet old guy. :: sigh ::

cloudiah
10 years ago

MRAs don’t think any defensive measure is appropriate for women.

Truer words have never been spoken. But they will blame women after the fact for not having taken the exact same defensive measures they tell us are misandristic.

Ally S
10 years ago

This discussion reminds me of a really good quote (I don’t know the source, sorry):

“You must remember, it isn’t about ‘All men are menaces to women,’ it’s about ‘All women have been menaced by men.’”

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
10 years ago

just like the other day I posted a link to a video of a boy being sexually assaulted in public – and rather than acknowledge the point I was trying to make, instead chose to attack me for posting a link to it. okay, even though that video is all over the internet, links all over the place – perhaps IT WAS inappropriate to post here – BUT you focused on the fact I posted on it and ignored the point I was making.

It’s kind of hard to give a fuck about any points being made by someone who posts videos of children being raped. I’d ask why you feel entitled to anything but scorn and mockery after doing something so heinous, but of course I already know the answer.

Azurain
Azurain
10 years ago

Booooo. I’m an avid follower of this blog, and this is the first time I’ve felt compelled to respond. This blog entry was a big disappointment. The campaign here had nothing to do with the vile manosphere — this is a campaign run by people who are genuinely trying to help male victims of violence. The fact that wretched MRAs are going to latch on to this sort of thing in support of their sexist victim-complex is simply unavoidable. But attempting to actively undermine the campaign like this is flat out wrong.

Men who experience abuse ARE much less likely to be taken seriously. They DO report at lower rates than women. There’s a tremendous social stigma against acknowledging, as a man, that you’ve been victimized by a woman. This is a problem that needs to be addressed, something feminists HAVE to be alongside. As feminists, we can’t have it both ways: saying that there’s no need for a “Men’s Rights” movement on the one hand, and then failing to support positive steps at addressing very real men’s issues on the other hand.

Disappointing. I usually love everything you post. Please don’t do this again.

LBT (with an open writeathon!)

RE: emilygoddess

I’ve seen feminists use an asterisk in “rape” to avoid upsetting people.

I’ve never understood how that makes it any better. It’s not like that one little ‘a’ is what upsets me! In my opinion, trying to scrub the word out of existence is more disturbing than its existing in the first place.

I’d ask why you feel entitled to anything but scorn and mockery after doing something so heinous, but of course I already know the answer.

But don’t you know he’s such a niiiiiiice guy! He truly does care about male survivors, and if we were just in his head with him, we’d agree with him.

*snort* May he get a headmate who ruthlessly disagrees.

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