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Is The Mankind Initiative's #ViolenceIsViolence video a fraud?

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The ManKind Initiative, a UK organization devoted to fighting domestic violence against men, recently put out a video that’s been getting a lot of attention in the media and online, racking up more than six million views on YouTube in a little over a week.

The brief video, titled #ViolenceIsViolence, purports to depict the radically different reactions of bystanders to staged incidents of domestic violence between a couple in a London plaza. When the man was the aggressor, shoving the woman and grabbing her face, bystanders intervened and threatened to call the police. When the woman was the aggressor, the video shows bystanders laughing, and no one does a thing.

The video has been praised by assorted Men’s Rights Activists, naturally enough, but it has also gotten uncritical attention in some prominent media outlets as well, from Marie Claire to the Huffington Post.

There’s just one problem: The video may be a fraud, using deceptive editing to distort incidents that may well have played out quite differently in real life.

A shot-by-shot analysis of the video from beginning to end reveals that the first “incident” depicted is actually a composite of footage shot of at least two separate incidents, filmed on at least three different times of day and edited together into one narrative.

A careful viewing of the video also reveals that many of the supposed “reaction shots” in the video are not “reaction shots” at all, but shots taken in the same plaza at different times and edited in as if they are happening at the same time as the staged “incidents” depicted.

Moreover, none of the people depicted as laughing at the second incident are shown in the same frame as the fighting couple. There is no evidence that any of them were actually laughing at the woman attacking the man.

The editing tricks used in the video were brought to my attention by a reader who sent me a link to a blog entry by Miguel Lorente Acosta, a Professor of Legal Medicine at the University of Granada in Spain, and a Government Delegate for Gender Violence in Spain’s Ministry of Equality. He goes through the video shot by shot, showing each trick for what it is.

The post in Spanish, and his argument is a little hard to follow through the filter of Google Translate, so I will offer my own analysis of the video below, drawing heavily on his post. (His post is still worth reading, as he covers several examples of deceptive editing I’ve left out.)

I urge you to watch the video above through once, then follow me through the following analysis.

The first “incident” is made up of footage taken at three distinct times, if not more. The proof is in the bench.

In the opening shot of the video, we see an overview of the plaza. We see two people sitting on a bench, a man in black to the left and a woman in white to the right, with a trash can to the right of them. (All of these lefts and rights are relative to us, the viewers.) The trash can has an empty green bag hanging off of it.

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As the first incident begins, we see the same bench, only now we see two women sitting where the man was previously sitting. The trash can now has a full bag of trash sitting next to it.

vv2bench

In this shot, showing bystanders intervening in what is portrayed as the same fight, and supposedly depicting a moment in time only about 30 seconds after the previous shot, we see that the two women on the bench have been replaced by two men, one in a suit and the other in a red hoodie. The full trash bag has been removed, and the trash can again has an empty trash bag hanging off of it.

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Clearly this portion of the video does not depict a single incident.

What about the reaction shots? The easiest way to tell that the reaction shots in the video did not chronologically follow the shots that they come after in the video is by looking at the shadows. Some of the video was shot when the sky was cloudy and shadows were indistinct. Other shots were taken in direct sunlight. In the video, shots in cloudy weather are followed immediately by shots in roughly the same location where we see bright sunlight and clear shadows.

Here’s one shot, 9 seconds in. Notice the lack of clear shadows; the shadow of the sitting woman is little more than a vague smudge.

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Here’s another shot from less than a second later in the same video – the timestamp is still at 9 seconds in. Now the plaza is in direct sunlight and the shadows are sharp and distinct.

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If you watch the video carefully, you can see these sorts of discontinuities throughout. It seems highly unlikely that the various reaction shots actually depict reactions to what they appear to be reactions to. Which wouldn’t matter if this were a feature film; that’s standard practice. But this purports to be a depiction of real incidents caught on hidden camera and presented as they happened in real time.

The issue of non-reaction reaction shots is especially important when it comes to the second incident. In the first incident, we see a number of women, and one man, intervening to stop the violence. There is no question that’s what’s going on, because we see them in the same frame as the couple.

In the second incident, none of the supposed laughing onlookers ever appear in the same frame as the fighting couple. We have no proof that their laughter is in fact a reaction to the woman attacking the man. And given the dishonest way that the video is edited overall, I have little faith that they are real reaction shots.

The people who are in frame with the fighting couple are either trying resolutely to ignore the incident – as many of the onlookers also did in the first incident – or are clearly troubled by it.

I noticed one blonde woman who looked at first glance like she might have been laughing, but after pausing the video it became clear that she was actually alarmed and trying to move out of the way.

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There is one other thing to note about the two incidents. In the first case, the onlookers didn’t intervene until after the man escalated his aggression by grabbing the woman by her face. In the second video, the screen fades to black shortly after the woman escalates her aggression to a similar level. We don’t know what, if anything, happened after that.

Is it possible that the first part of the video, despite being a composite of several incidents, depicts more or less accurately what happened each time the video makers tried this experiment? Yes. Is it possible that onlookers did indeed laugh as the woman attacked the man? Yes.

But there is only one way for The ManKind Initiative to come clean and clear up any suspicion: they need to post the unedited, time-stamped footage of each of the incidents they filmed from each of their three cameras so we can see how each incident really played out in real time and which, if any, of the alleged reactions were actual reactions.

In addition to the editing tricks mentioned above, we don’t know if the video makers edited out portions of the staged attacks that might have influenced how the bystanders reacted.

The video makers should also post the footage of the incidents that they did not use for the advert, so we can see if reactions to the violence were consistently different when the genders of attackers and victims were switched. Two incidents make up a rather small sample – even if one of these incidents is actually two incidents disguised as one.

Domestic violence against men is a real and serious problem. But you can’t fight it effectively with smoke and mirrors.

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Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Thanks for reminding me to refresh my color, Mammotheers!

Vampire Red fades into a nice deep pink, so I haven’t refreshed in a while.

cupisnique
10 years ago

Brz and Anand are really booooooooring, almost makes you miss that guy that kept yelling SPINSTERS at us, at least that was mildly entertaining and he didn’t try to manipulate us with “you hurt my poor fee-fees”.

Piece of advice: adding a smiley to things you say or ending your posts with “cheers” and “have a nice day” doesn’t make them less offensive, it actually just makes you an asshole by pretending what you just said wasn’t vile and gaslighting people for taking offense.

Luzbelitx
10 years ago

I haven’t had time to read all the comments (my sister got married yesterday <3 ), but I wanted to share this with the group

A few days ago I posted in my BDSM forrum this video, along with a critical blog post I found before I knew it was fake. The post did mention, however, the misrepresentation of statistic (as in, the 40% male victims they claim are not victims in the way that is shown in the video).

The MRA answers literally rained over the thread. They posted videos about "Misandry and the diposability of males" (from UK groups if I'm not mistaken – I haven't had time to watch them and I'm not sure I will), as well as some "sources" is Spanish, mainly from Spain which seems to be the headquarters of Spanish-speaking MRAs.

Most of them were articles by one single psychologist (referencing each other as "sources") trying to describe female-on.male abuse in a way which sounds A LOT like the way the abusers tell the story: "she's nagging and yelling and saying it's all his fault, and blaming him for the conflicts which are normal within a relationship." Apparently that's all it takes for women to abuse, even when Bancroft is able to describe a wide set of more sophisticated techniques for psychological abuse, which he himself describes as being used by both female and male perpetrators.

So I think both the video and the article are following one line of logic: women are as violent as men, so when a man says a woman abuses him (like many abusers do) and he is still considered the abuser (my guess is by people who actually know shit about DV), then it's the feminists' fault for hiding female on male violence!

It all sounds a lot like WHY WON'T YOU BELIEVE THE ABUSER WHEN HE CLAIMS TO BE THE VICTIM!?!?

It looks like I've opened one big fat can of worms in there. I'm delighted they showep up at the party, so everyone can see them for what they are.

bunnybunny
bunnybunny
10 years ago

Yes I use one of the Lush shampoo bars. They’re great.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
10 years ago

my name being dragged into tge mud again for having a different opinion and respecting other’s.

You tell people you don’t believe them because they can’t prove what they’re saying. That’s not remotely respectful.

Constructive criticism is extremely rare.

We’re not your mommies. And you haven’t asked for concrit; you’ve spewed offensive shit everywhere and then whined when it was met with frustration rather than hand-holding. Nothing about your style suggests you are hear to learn.

I respect you

Lies.

WWTH,

If you think Paul Elam of AVFM isn’t a misogynist than you yourself are a misogynist.

Such rude name-calling! You need to hold his hand and gently offer constructive criticism of his misogyny (without calling it that). Otherwise you’re an angry sockpuppet wolf.

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
10 years ago

Kittehserf, your analogy would be accurate if this was your home. This a website and not your frickin house.

IMO the best analogy for a blog comments section is a public place. Look, if you were bothering a group of people in a city park, and they told you they didn’t want you to bother them any more, they couldn’t technically make you leave, but you’d still be an asshole if you didn’t. So yes, while you have the freedom to continue commenting here until David bans you, Kittehserf is right that your refusal to leave us alone when asked is assholish.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Anand: Why you think you’re entitled to civil replies and having your feelings placed above all else is a mystery. Are you always this bad with boundaries, or is it only when you think you’re talking to a bunch of women? You should think about that.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Anand: Why you think you’re entitled to civil replies and having your feelings placed above all else is a mystery.

Not really. He feels entitled because he’s a dude. How dare we not treat him as the superior being that makes him!

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Also for Anand,

bbeaty
bbeaty
10 years ago

“Pandas are also kind of hilarious. Males will do handstands while urinating, in order to get their pee as high up the trunk of a tree as possible.”

This made me want to respond with “Me, too!”

(I am secretly 12.)

historophilia
10 years ago

@Luzbelitx, and Bancroft says that claiming to be the abused party is a very common tactic of abusers. Essentially because they view any disagreement or any attempts to fight back by their partners as utterly unacceptable. He gives an example of an abuser describing his partners efforts to physically defend herself against his brutal physical abuse (TW: description of violence, he grabbed her by the throat and slammed her into a wall, she responded by kicking him in the groin) and being horrified by the idea and categorising it as “abuse” though it was cut and dried self-defence against his violence.

He also describes how abusive men will frequently tell their friends and family that they are the abused one to turn people against their partner. Whereas the actual abused partner is often too ashamed of being abused to tell anyone.

And often the “abuse” abused men describe is their partner standing up for themselves or attempting to set boundaries and make their feelings known or pointing out their partners bad behaviour.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

(I am secretly 12.)

…and I judge you for that.
Harshly.

Luzbelitx
10 years ago

@historophilia

Absolutely!

It’s hard not to see it as an attempt to give more credibility to abusers.

Mayzism
Mayzism
10 years ago

Why was a different script used for the victim man than the victim women?

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

What’s that about bystanders always intervening to help women?

http://jezebel.com/woman-beaten-to-death-for-refusing-to-give-men-her-numb-1584496268

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

Peter La Croix:

However, what would be your reaction if you saw both scenes, the first where the man appears to be the aggressor, and in the second where the woman is.Answer that question ans stop trying to figure out whether this video has been edited.

Why would think anyone here would react differently whether the victim was a man or a woman? Why would you think anyone here would react differently whether the aggressor was a man or a woman?

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Becuase Peter isn’t very bright and thinks we’d be cheering on a female aggressor.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Reposting the link left above by Polly to make sure it’s seen http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/men-left-clear-up-detritus-2237022

The chairman of this group is a misogynist. Big shock!

katz
10 years ago

WWTH: That link brings the words “whiny-ass titty baby” to mind.

Drewy
Drewy
10 years ago

Not surprising. Their associates with Erin Pizzey as well, so…

emilygoddess
emilygoddess
10 years ago

What’s that about bystanders always intervening to help women?

http://jezebel.com/woman-beaten-to-death-for-refusing-to-give-men-her-numb-1584496268

Good point. I notice misandric bystanders were on hand to help these women, too.

Why would think anyone here would react differently whether the victim was a man or a woman? Why would you think anyone here would react differently whether the aggressor was a man or a woman?

I probably would react differently, because violent men are probably more likely to assault me (and also they trigger me, but that’s a pretty individual thing). I would even grant that culturally, we aren’t concerned enough with male victims of violent women. But none of that adds up to the video’s message, which seems to be trying to prop male victims up by dragging female victims down.

Alais
10 years ago

@Marci,

The video that Jean posted is a What Would You Do? video. I’ve watched it before, and their presentation was much more nuanced. Funnily enough, Jean left out the fact that people who did intervene to help the abused man were other women. Zie also left out information about other videos that WWYD has done about domestic abuse. In similar experiments, where they portrayed scenarios of male-on-female abuse, they found a lot.

For example, they ran two scenarios where a teenaged boy was abusing his teenaged girlfriend. In the first, they were dressed in a sort of preppy fashion. In the second, he was dressed to look tougher. In both scenarios, people readily (relatively speaking) intervened (though more so when the male abuser looked like he was of a lower income status). However, in those scenarios, “readily” meant that about 20% of the 120 people who walked by actually did something. WWYD ran a similar scenario with an adult couple where a man was abusing a woman, and only half as many people responded because they feared the adult man’s retaliation more than the teenaged boy’s.

In yet another scenario that they, where abused women (one white, one black) walked into a restaurant, made up to look bruised and battered, and then met with their boyfriends (one also white, the other also black), who proceeded to act abusively. While they found that people were likely to come to the aid of both women when the victims were dressed more conservatively, they also found that people were far more likely to ignore or blame the victim if her clothing was more revealing. People either assumed that the couple were actually a prostitute and her pimp (and then, because of prejudice against sex-workers, didn’t rush to help her because they blamed her) or got angry because they were making their problems public. 🙁 Unsurprisingly but sadly, other scenarios that they ran proved similar points about sexual harassment (i.e. that people are more likely to stop a harasser if his victim is dressed conservatively and more likely to blame the victim if she’s dressed in a more revealing manner).

Tl;dr: The MRA sympathizers who have pointed to the WWYD video have dishonestly failed to point to what other videos produced by the same group have demonstrated about the problems and prejudices that female victims of domestic violence and sexual harassment face and left out points made in the video about male victims of domestic violence that concur with feminist theories on DV.

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@Ally

What a shame. 🙁 I’ve always wanted really straight hair. Is there at least a way to just make wavy hair not look bushy and fanned out on the sides? Other than just waiting for it to grow long enough?

I straightened my hair when I was younger, and it seemed to work? Thought not if it was wet/ humid/ sweaty. But I just used a cheap little straightener thing.

Also, idk if our hairs are similiar wave-like, but mine is straighter when longer and curlier when shorter, so if our hair happens the same, the problem might resolve itself.

Huh, speaking of lowlights, I wonder if hot pink highlights with jet black lowlights would look good… (sorry if someone already suggested that. I’m having a slightly hard time keeping track of comments.)

I’ve seen it before and thought it looked awesome 😀

Wait, this is a more useful pic since it has my hair all fanned out and weird looking: http://i.imgur.com/jDoR3pu.jpg

that’s your hair fanned out and weird looking? I think it looks cute 😛

@contrapangloss

Sorry if my desperate need to believe people can become better is bugging any of the regulars.

I really, really don’t intend to sound ridiculously high horsey, because I’m definitely not always a good person, in my head. 🙁

It doesn’t bug me, but YMMV.

@lea

Vampire Red fades into a nice deep pink, so I haven’t refreshed in a while.

aiieee what brand do you use I need that hair color I need it I need it! /hyper

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Marie,
Manic Panic.

Marie
Marie
10 years ago

@lea

thanks 😀 I’ll try to check it out sometime.

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