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Is The Mankind Initiative's #ViolenceIsViolence video a fraud?

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The ManKind Initiative, a UK organization devoted to fighting domestic violence against men, recently put out a video that’s been getting a lot of attention in the media and online, racking up more than six million views on YouTube in a little over a week.

The brief video, titled #ViolenceIsViolence, purports to depict the radically different reactions of bystanders to staged incidents of domestic violence between a couple in a London plaza. When the man was the aggressor, shoving the woman and grabbing her face, bystanders intervened and threatened to call the police. When the woman was the aggressor, the video shows bystanders laughing, and no one does a thing.

The video has been praised by assorted Men’s Rights Activists, naturally enough, but it has also gotten uncritical attention in some prominent media outlets as well, from Marie Claire to the Huffington Post.

There’s just one problem: The video may be a fraud, using deceptive editing to distort incidents that may well have played out quite differently in real life.

A shot-by-shot analysis of the video from beginning to end reveals that the first “incident” depicted is actually a composite of footage shot of at least two separate incidents, filmed on at least three different times of day and edited together into one narrative.

A careful viewing of the video also reveals that many of the supposed “reaction shots” in the video are not “reaction shots” at all, but shots taken in the same plaza at different times and edited in as if they are happening at the same time as the staged “incidents” depicted.

Moreover, none of the people depicted as laughing at the second incident are shown in the same frame as the fighting couple. There is no evidence that any of them were actually laughing at the woman attacking the man.

The editing tricks used in the video were brought to my attention by a reader who sent me a link to a blog entry by Miguel Lorente Acosta, a Professor of Legal Medicine at the University of Granada in Spain, and a Government Delegate for Gender Violence in Spain’s Ministry of Equality. He goes through the video shot by shot, showing each trick for what it is.

The post in Spanish, and his argument is a little hard to follow through the filter of Google Translate, so I will offer my own analysis of the video below, drawing heavily on his post. (His post is still worth reading, as he covers several examples of deceptive editing I’ve left out.)

I urge you to watch the video above through once, then follow me through the following analysis.

The first “incident” is made up of footage taken at three distinct times, if not more. The proof is in the bench.

In the opening shot of the video, we see an overview of the plaza. We see two people sitting on a bench, a man in black to the left and a woman in white to the right, with a trash can to the right of them. (All of these lefts and rights are relative to us, the viewers.) The trash can has an empty green bag hanging off of it.

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As the first incident begins, we see the same bench, only now we see two women sitting where the man was previously sitting. The trash can now has a full bag of trash sitting next to it.

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In this shot, showing bystanders intervening in what is portrayed as the same fight, and supposedly depicting a moment in time only about 30 seconds after the previous shot, we see that the two women on the bench have been replaced by two men, one in a suit and the other in a red hoodie. The full trash bag has been removed, and the trash can again has an empty trash bag hanging off of it.

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Clearly this portion of the video does not depict a single incident.

What about the reaction shots? The easiest way to tell that the reaction shots in the video did not chronologically follow the shots that they come after in the video is by looking at the shadows. Some of the video was shot when the sky was cloudy and shadows were indistinct. Other shots were taken in direct sunlight. In the video, shots in cloudy weather are followed immediately by shots in roughly the same location where we see bright sunlight and clear shadows.

Here’s one shot, 9 seconds in. Notice the lack of clear shadows; the shadow of the sitting woman is little more than a vague smudge.

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Here’s another shot from less than a second later in the same video – the timestamp is still at 9 seconds in. Now the plaza is in direct sunlight and the shadows are sharp and distinct.

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If you watch the video carefully, you can see these sorts of discontinuities throughout. It seems highly unlikely that the various reaction shots actually depict reactions to what they appear to be reactions to. Which wouldn’t matter if this were a feature film; that’s standard practice. But this purports to be a depiction of real incidents caught on hidden camera and presented as they happened in real time.

The issue of non-reaction reaction shots is especially important when it comes to the second incident. In the first incident, we see a number of women, and one man, intervening to stop the violence. There is no question that’s what’s going on, because we see them in the same frame as the couple.

In the second incident, none of the supposed laughing onlookers ever appear in the same frame as the fighting couple. We have no proof that their laughter is in fact a reaction to the woman attacking the man. And given the dishonest way that the video is edited overall, I have little faith that they are real reaction shots.

The people who are in frame with the fighting couple are either trying resolutely to ignore the incident – as many of the onlookers also did in the first incident – or are clearly troubled by it.

I noticed one blonde woman who looked at first glance like she might have been laughing, but after pausing the video it became clear that she was actually alarmed and trying to move out of the way.

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There is one other thing to note about the two incidents. In the first case, the onlookers didn’t intervene until after the man escalated his aggression by grabbing the woman by her face. In the second video, the screen fades to black shortly after the woman escalates her aggression to a similar level. We don’t know what, if anything, happened after that.

Is it possible that the first part of the video, despite being a composite of several incidents, depicts more or less accurately what happened each time the video makers tried this experiment? Yes. Is it possible that onlookers did indeed laugh as the woman attacked the man? Yes.

But there is only one way for The ManKind Initiative to come clean and clear up any suspicion: they need to post the unedited, time-stamped footage of each of the incidents they filmed from each of their three cameras so we can see how each incident really played out in real time and which, if any, of the alleged reactions were actual reactions.

In addition to the editing tricks mentioned above, we don’t know if the video makers edited out portions of the staged attacks that might have influenced how the bystanders reacted.

The video makers should also post the footage of the incidents that they did not use for the advert, so we can see if reactions to the violence were consistently different when the genders of attackers and victims were switched. Two incidents make up a rather small sample – even if one of these incidents is actually two incidents disguised as one.

Domestic violence against men is a real and serious problem. But you can’t fight it effectively with smoke and mirrors.

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contrapangloss
10 years ago

Sorry if my desperate need to believe people can become better is bugging any of the regulars.

I really, really don’t intend to sound ridiculously high horsey, because I’m definitely not always a good person, in my head. 🙁

AL3H
AL3H
10 years ago

@Ally_S (and anyone else who wants to talk about hair)

My hair isn’t wavy, but I had a bob cut in 2007 and there was a definite short hair floof-factor. However, when I grew it out, and it passed about shoulder level, it went back to being straight and super flat again. From your photos, I think your hair is thicker and wavier than mine, so I am not sure if it will flatten at exactly the same length, but at least it gives you an idea of the timescales.

Also, in terms of dye, my hair is mousy brown and slightly lighter than yours. I had some problems dying it darker in certain colours as the dye wouldn’t take. However, for some dyes it worked, so if you want to make yours darker, given that there are dyes that significantly darken my hair, there should be dyes that work well for you too. I found a really nice purple/maroon that took very well (it was a standard brand, but I can’t remember the brand name as it was over a decade ago … ).

Puddleglum
10 years ago

Wow, the trolls sure did roll in for a bit; not sad I missed it. Finally got to go see Godzilla today (and as a bonus, we recorded Super 8 so we could watch that after!)

Re: what to do with growing out wavy hair. Ah, the eternal question. I have very thick, coarse, wavy hair, and I’m in the process of growing it out from a short bob (I’m at the fluffy Farrah Fawcett stage too!). Here’s what I’ve been doing.

#1 Lots of conditioner. Dry hair is fluffier.
#2 If you’re hair isn’t too oily, Moroccan oil or macadamia oil on the ends. If it’s oily, stick to a frizz serum.
#3 Gel. Mousse will give too much volume for this length, but the gel will help tame it.
#4 Be wary of the brush. Once while it’s wet (before gel), to get the knots out, but brushing when it’s dry will only separate the hairs and make it fluffier. The amount of product it takes to fix this will make your hair feel nasty.

Not sure if any of this is useful (hair is so incredibly unique for each person, I’ve met siblings who had to use different products), but I couldn’t resist the topic.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Oh good, we’re back to hair instead of huffy men being huffy about trivial shit.

This is my favorite product for smoothing fluff and frizz. It’s expensive, but you don’t need that much so I find it tends to last a while.

http://www.kerastase-usa.com/elixir_ultime

And this one is a very close second, may work better than the first one for some people depending on hair type.

http://www.shuuemuraartofhair-usa.com/Essence-Absolue/SU028,default,pd.html

kittehserf
10 years ago

AL3H – mouse brown hair? ::fistbumps!:: That’s my natural colour too. Or what’s left of it amid the grey.

I’ve had a little trouble with the dyes recently, too, though they’re salon dyes and it’s more to do with going grey, I think. I’d been getting a very deep brown, but it was fading and turning gingery-brassy at the ends – not a good colour at all. My hairdresser’s added a dash of absolute-black-hole-singularity-black to it, and it’s holding like it used to again.

Re: mousse – I use Revitafoam, which is a conditioner and mousse. It can help hold curl in and it’s light. Whether it would work for Ally’s hair as it is now, I don’t know.

marci
10 years ago

On one of the videos posted by Jean (not even going to touch the Sharon Osborn one with a ten foot pole)…

This news spot was actually very well done and well explained by the people interviewed in it. At one point the psychologist even addresses the idea that there are harmful gender ideas which explain why when a man is being abused by a woman onlookers will either respond with apathy or even think he had it coming. I’m sure the video clip was meant to be some sort of gotcha, but it actually addresses a good many points that feminists have been talking about forever.

marci
10 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger: Pig shit is so much worse than cow shit. You can sort of ignore cow shit for a bit, but pig shit will make you choke from miles around. Source: I worked across the road from a pig farm for 3 summers. When that place was down wind it was like hell on earth. Also the sound of pigs being taken to be slaughtered is one of the most terrifying sounds I think I have ever heard.

Pig shit=MRA talking points Cow shit=Fox News

Aylin
Aylin
10 years ago

@Unimaginative

“We did have a discussion a few months ago about whether to use an asterisk after trans — Ally said she doesn’t use one, and had a whole background on its use or non-use that was, as usual, coherent and educational, and I can’t remember it at all. My brain is swiss cheese.”

I never use the asterisk either.

Kim
Kim
10 years ago

Is there any good way to completely straighten it, or should naturally wavy hair be left alone?

Not caught up on the thread yet, but just wanted to say – I have wavy, often frizzy hair and I had Japanese straightening done. I’m not sure how it differs from other straightening, but it’s definitely a type of perm. I had it dyed and a “heat lamp pointed at your head” conditioning treatment at the same time. My hair has never been so lovely and shiny and easy to manage, and it lasted for ages because it’s the ends that needed it, not the top, so it could grow for many inches before the effects wore off. I would totally do it again and recommend it except that it’s expensive and takes all day.

My friend who was from a rural area taught me the difference between pig shit smell and cow shit smell

I lived next door to a piggery for a few years when I was a teen. Pig poop smell is foul in a way cow poop could never be. I think given a side by side comparison anyone could tell them apart even if they’d never smelt them before. Or maybe I have a knack. Is it just me that can easily distinguish pig, cow and horse poop, cat pee and poop from dog pee and poop? Surely not.

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

@Kim, nope not just you. Brought up in the country. Pig, cow, horse & chicken/turkey manure all readily differentiable. #Normal4Norfolk

titianblue
titianblue
10 years ago

So what did I miss, yesyerday? More “I’m so superior & objective, you’re all stupid meanies” crap from Anand, Brz boring on again and oooh!

@Ally S, a red streak would be cool. sometimes it’s just good to something like that makes you feel good. Hoping for piccies on he open thread when you’ve decided what you’re going to do.

Peter LaCroix
Peter LaCroix
10 years ago

Listen, we know that this is a scripted video and all of these people are playing a part. However, what would be your reaction if you saw both scenes, the first where the man appears to be the aggressor, and in the second where the woman is.Answer that question ans stop trying to figure out whether this video has been edited.

Fade
Fade
10 years ago

idk if i can really join the hair convo, b/c i always just cut mine short for low maintenance, and low maintenance everything else (thats my approach to most hygiene/beauty, b/c i have really low spoons most of the time). 😛 my sister is much more hair savvy than me.

@contrapanglos

IMO, you don’t sound high horsey. I mean, you can try to reason with Anand. Just don’t expect the rest of us to (I don’t think you were; I was just making the expectations clear because i am really bad at conveying/understanding expectations unless they’re written out)

Anand
Anand
10 years ago

Contrapangloss, Thank you for taking the time to write that reply. I may be naive and ignorant, I dont know. I find it difficult to write off people merely by a few words and actions. I know what paul elam has done and said. Its not as if i treat him as my primary source of information. Maybe you’re right, maybe im wrong. Its something i want to find out on my own.

I assure you that im not a troll and that i take construtive critisism seriously.

I also want to apologize to the regulars for getting carried away and derailing this thread. It was never my intention to derail.

Maybe this video may have been subject to selective editing but i really hope that doesn’t erase the message it sends. DV against men is a real and serious problem and blaming it on the patriarchy alone solves nothing. Cheers.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

And yet you find it very easy to write off people here if they disagree with you, or use naughty words. Hmm, why might that be?

Fade
Fade
10 years ago

anand

Maybe this video may have been subject to selective editing but i really hope that doesn’t erase the message it sends. DV against men is a real and serious problem and blaming it on the patriarchy alone solves nothing. Cheers.

that’s not the message it sends. It sends the message that DV against women is taken *more* seriously than DV against men, and it was edited highly to try to send that message ffs.

PS please explain whatever “patriarchy unicorn” meant earlier because you still seem to be harping on it. cheers

Anand
Anand
10 years ago

Cassandrakitty, I dont respond to people who call me names mainly because i dont want to escalate it any further. Its a defence mechanism.

Peter LaCroix
Peter LaCroix
10 years ago

Let’s say the whole thing was sleazy and a setup but you still haven’t answered my question about how YOU would react if you saw both scenes.

Anand
Anand
10 years ago

Fade, Feminists blame men’s problems on the patriarchy and MRAs blame it feminism. I dont really care either way. Im more concerned about convincing the authorities to use resources to help such men rather than play the blame game. We need specific laws or provisions to help such men. Its not a matter to be taken lightly.

Fade
Fade
10 years ago

@Anand

well, to fix something you generally have to *understand* it. If you don’t understand that most of the gendered problems men face come from the patriarchy, not feminism, then you’ll never succeed in dismantling it so you don’t have to face those problems anymore. MRM and feminism are *not* two sides of the “blame game” or whatever. You’re trying to make yourself sound like a high-and-mighty neutral bystander, but you are just sounding wishy washy and ignorant on the topic.

Also, what sort of laws or provisions do we need to help men? Are you really being denied a bunch of stuff?

ps i have found another video to prove a point. this may be subject to selective editing, but it’s message that parakeets can escape nuclear explosions still holds true

kittehserf
10 years ago

Piss off, Anand. We’ve made it clear any number of times we don’t want you here, yet you insist on hanging around. You don’t actually give a fuck about boundaries, do you? Do you do this away from the keyboard? Do you go into people’s homes and shit on the carpet and refuse to leave? Because that’s what you’re doing here.

FUCK. OFF.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Nope, Anand, nobody is buying it. You’re attempting to manipulate people by punishing those who aren’t “nice”. Unfortunately you’re also attempting to manipulate people who’re a great deal more savvy and intelligent than you are, which never works out well.

Anand
Anand
10 years ago

Fade, its no secret that male victims of dv are taken less seriously by people mainly because people consider men to be stronger than women. Lets assume that you are right. Lets assume that patriarchy is the cause of men’s problems. Dismantling the patriarchy is not easy because many people still hold on to it. What we can do is use laws and give the authorities, cops and investigating officers the proper training to identify the victim without assuming the woman is the victim in all scenarios. I dont want to go into details. All i want to say is that im really glad that the video went viral because awareness solves half the problem. Im not being nuetral or claiming the moral high ground. My message is clear: We need to take male victims seriously. Even if the video is fake, i know many people who would laugh at a male victim and his chances of getting justice in courts is much less than that of a woman. Patriarchy or not, the laws should be equal for everyone.

Anand
Anand
10 years ago

Kittehserf, your analogy would be accurate if this was your home. This a website and not your frickin house. If david wants me to leave, he can say that to me. Tell me when you become a site moderator and i may be obliged to leave. Also, you can always ban me and i will promptly leave.

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