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Note to clueless misogynistic dating coaches: Vogue magazine does not run handjob how-to's as cover stories

Note: The real world is not a romance comic.
Note: The real world is not a romance comic.

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After all of the depressing stuff from recent days, here’s something a little lighter: A heartwarming story of misogynist gullibility, and yet another reminder that the evil feminazi double standards that the manospherians think they’re fighting exist only in their own fevered imaginations.

So last night, as a result of a rather nasty contretemps in the comments here, I was going through some old comments, and I discovered that one recently banned troll has a little blog of his own. Curious, I went and checked it out, and discovered that the obnoxious fellow, one “Ronnie Libra,” fancies himself a “dating coach.” And he’d just posted a rant defending pickup artists from accusations of being the creepy, manipulative predators that we know a lot of them are.

Here was his defense:

Pickup Artists are widely considered people who use tactics and techniques to try and “manipulate” members of the opposite sex into bed.  Predatory, manipulative, rape culture, creepy…

Where else have we seen that before?

Popular Women’s Magazines perhaps?

As proof of this matriarchal manipulation, he posted the covers of three women’s magazines, adorned with pictures of sexy celebs and covered with headlines promising women guidance on how best to enslave men with their sexy sexiness.

But let’s look at some of these Mainstream Articles in these Popular women’s magazines.

Article Titles like:

Get Men to do your bidding without being a Nag

Get in his head and in his bed!

Christina Hendricks:  How she chased her man and got him!

How to disappear without a trace.

The Sex position that will Put a Ring on your Finger.

Football and poker will improve your relationship.  Find out how!

And a whole host of ways to manipulate men through sex.

It took me literally 3 minutes to pull of 3 random women’s magazine covers without even skimming for what the content of the covers would be. …

Am I complaining?  Am I saying there’s something wrong with all of this?  NOPE!  As a matter of fact, I am very far from the hypocritical crowd out there spouting out how men learning tactics and techniques or even just improving their lives inside and out is somehow creepy, misogynistic, women hating, rape culture.  If that were the case than women have been rapey, men hating, creepsters since before I was born.

No.  Men and women trying to become more attractive to the opposite sex is AWESOME! … Women and Men are playing the same game, and the fact is, the WOMEN have been making the rules for a long time. …

[T]his double standard that what is great for women to do is evil for men to do just needs to be put to rest.

There’s just one teensy problem with Ronnie’s argument: two of the three magazine covers that Ronnie used to prove his point were obvious, ridiculous fakes. Here they are:

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Yep. Apparently Ronnie thinks that Vogue runs cover stories on “The Lost Art of the Handjob,” and that InStyle is obsessed with telling women not to cut their hair because guys like women’s hair long.

You may notice that in addition to being festooned with headlines that sound like they were written not by sneaky sexually manipulative women but rather by a committee of horny dudes, these covers also feature a url on them: coolmaterial.com.

Using the sophisticated internet research technique of typing this url into my browser and, upon reaching the site in question, typing the words “women’s magazines” into the search box, I discovered that these covers were taken from a couple of “humor” features imagining what women’s magazines would look like … if they were written by men.

The basic joke behind them all: how can we convince these silly women to bend over backwards and forwards to please men sexually, while making them think they’re empowering themselves? Hell, there’s even a freaking sandwich joke on that fake InStyle cover.

And seriously, Ronnie, the NAME OF THE IMAGE FILE for the ScarJo cover, the image you posted on your blog and that I’ve reposted here, is if_men_wrote_womens_magazines_00.jpg. How did that not tip you off?

It’s true that women’s magazines do offer sex tips– shocking, I know — and, heck, I even found a handjob how-to in Vogue’s downmarket rival Glamour. But how is that in any way comparable to the manipulative and pedatory techniques favored by so many PUAs? Offering advice on how to please your partner in bed is about as innocuous as providing recipes for delicious food that people will enjoy eating. It’s nothing like the creepy gaslighting and routine boundary-violation regularly recommended by PUAs. Dread Game, anyone?

It’s also true that a couple of the headlines that Ronnie quotes are taken from the one real cover he posted, that of the May 2012 issue of the UK edition of Cosmopolitan. But tellingly, one of these quotes is actually a misquote. Cosmo wasn’t offering sneaky women advice on “how to disappear without a trace” – presumably with a briefcase full of pilfered cash and a vial of some poor man’s sperm. The actual headline?

Cosmo investigates: How can a woman disappear without a trace?

Yes, that’s right: it was an investigative report about a woman’s disappearance. I couldn’t find the piece itself on the Cosmopolitan UK website, which only puts limited stuff from its print editions online, though I found a more recent news story there about a missing woman who has been in the news a good deal in the UK. The American edition of Cosmo has also run investigative reports on missing women.

I’m not quite sure how Ronnie managed to get the headline so wrong. It’s written in big letters on the cover. Maybe he was distracted by cover girl Christina Hendricks’ cleavage? But it’s a revealing little slip nonetheless, transforming a story about a woman missing and possibly murdered into how-to guide to female deception.

More proof that these guys see just what they want to see – even if what they’re seeing is a joke, or entirely a product of their own imagination

Note to Ronnie: If you’d like to defend yourself here. I’ll unban your and let your comments through, just so long as they stay withing my comment guidelines.

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Puddleglum
10 years ago

I original read ‘angry feminist dive bar’ as ‘angry feminist dove bar’, and now I’m hungry.

kittehserf
10 years ago

The “put your scrunchy on his winkie” thing is puzzling me. Who’s worn a scunchy since 1996, latest?

I see teenagers wearing them.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

And I initially interpreted that as meaning a bar full of doves, which was confusing.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
10 years ago

I think the ‘jaded’ thing is about sexual experience. The dictionary definition is “tired, bored, or lacking enthusiasm, typically after having had too much of something” so they use it to refer to women who have had plenty of sex (good sex, bad sex, and everything in between) and therefore know enough to recognize the bad and know what they want. Being able to recognize bad and knowing what you want = too much in these joker’s minds.

If you’re able to recognize that it should take more than three minutes, you are jaded. If you don’t want to have sex with them, because you know that a pack of fresh batteries would provide more satisfaction, you are jaded.

katz
10 years ago

Maybe the dive bar can serve free dove bars.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

This conversation reminds me that I keep forgetting to thank pecunium. My usual vodka was sold out and the backup options weren’t any cheaper than the tito’s so I gave it a go. Couldn’t taste it in the fruity juice cocktail and daaammnnn is that shit smooth. First time I’ve actually sipped vodka!

On topic — if there will be vodka and/or whiskey, count me in! Food wise…anything that doesn’t require my molars to chew, got the other side drilled earlier and am banned from using them until tomorrow cuz the silver fillings have to set or something. So, uh, idk, vodka smoothie? Cover both at once?

And I just figured out why I only sorta like the Starbucks via instant coffee (besides the obvious) — if my coffee has a whiskey like aftertaste, it damned well better contain whiskey!

kittehserf
10 years ago

Or maybe they can get a party hat with a string big enough that it can be used to wrap around the waist so the hat can cover the crotch…and then put a scrunchy on the hat.

Solution! Nobody needs to get their bits out (assuming they have the bits in question). Strap-ons with scrunchies will be available for anyone who wants to wear them.

Y’all could come here for this bar. Drinking age is 18 in Oz and I think we could do with a Mammotheer invasion right now!

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

How will we know if you’re really a ‘boobzer Mammotheer? When you see the bowl of strap ons, you grab one and stick a scrunchie on it!

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

On topic: I’m drinking pinot grigio that I left in the freezer so it would be ice cold. It’s delicious.

katz
10 years ago

Some speakeasies used passwords or admission cards. Ours uses cock scrunchies.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
10 years ago

Okay, maybe it’s because I am about half a bottle of moscato ahead of WWTH (again, another wine that is extra yummy when ice cold) and for some reason, I am picturing Oprah standing in the middle of the place tossing strap-ons every which way yelling “YOU get a cock! And YOU get a cock! EVERYONE gets a cock!”

I suppose they could come pre-scrunchied, and we could swap if we ended up with one we didn’t like…

kittehserf
10 years ago

I was looking for a pic of a glittery strap-on – didn’t find it, but there’s always this version (NSFW):

It looks more comfy and convenient for dancing or whatever, too.

wordsp1nner
wordsp1nner
10 years ago

I actually wear scrunchies. I find they don’t abrade my hair as badly as typical hairbands and last longer (so long as I keep them away from Jade–she thinks they’re toys). The only thing better are these really small thick rubberish bands, but those only work for securing braid ends–getting them all the way out of a ponytail is torture. I work in wet-bench biology, so keeping hair out of my face is a must and fashion is on the back burner. (Lets just say that non-ankle-length skirts are against the dress code, and heels are a bad idea.)

Sign me up for the dive bar if they have vodka and cranberry, or possibly hard apple cider. I loathe beer, but I really like apple cider, and in the last few years there has been a boom in hard cider. Now, most beer places will have a cider on tap, except that one place in Wyoming.

For wine, I really like syrah, particularly Washington syrahs. If you like wine, Eastern Washington is a good place to be, and now is the best time to come here.

kittehserf
10 years ago

Non-alcoholic apple cider will work for me at our bar!

Ally S
10 years ago

This thread is gold. I love this place. <3

kittehserf
10 years ago

Oh, and if anyone wants a knitted strap-on, I’ll do it for a fee if I can find a pattern. 😛

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

My favorite vodka is Absolut Pears. I just love it. Highly recommend it to anyone who likes/can drink vodka.

It’s perfect in warm weather and isn’t overly sweet. It’s good in a martini or with soda. The garnish should be a cherry.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
10 years ago
cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

I like clear spirits that are infused with things. Soju with ginger is a favorite, tea-infused vodka is pretty good too.

Or combine both ideas and you end up with chu-hai drinks, which I wish every bar served. The canned ones are acceptable, but fresh is much, much better. Oolong is my favorite, but pretty much all the fruity ones are good too.

(I draw the line at calipico-hai, though. That’s just weird.)

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Basic recipe for anyone who wants to try to make it themself, btw. It’s basically an alcoholic iced tea, perfect for hot weather and tasty with almost any food.

http://www.garnishbar.com/Underscore_Hero/recipe/oolong-hai/

kittehserf
10 years ago

gillyrosebee, I am dying laughing here! XD

Arete
Arete
10 years ago

wordsp1nner! Are you saying you are a biologist in WA? Fist-bump of PNW biologist solidarity!

Also, I would like to contribute to kitteh’s craft project in some way, but you will have to wait until I have finished the embroidery Elder Sign I am working on now. Come to think of it, and Elder Sign or two might be a good match for the Misandry Tavern.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
10 years ago

Actually can we have Cthulhu plushies on the tables? I’d hate for any fans of eldritch beasts from the deep to feel left out, and it would give people something to rest on if they’d had too many and needed a nap.

kittehserf
10 years ago

Arete, excellent idea! Our tavern could be crafty and Ebil Feminists and strap ons and everything.

We should probably incorporate bras into the decor somehow, too, to scare away trolls. Or – I know, have cross-stitch samplers on the walls with quotations from our bra conversations here.

gillyrosebee
gillyrosebee
10 years ago

How about Cthulhu plushie bean bag chairs, so that the tentacles wrap around you and give you a cuddle when you lay back.

Maybe like this, only bigger

http://www.squishable.com/pc/squish_cthulhu_15/squishable_massive/Squishable+Cthulhu

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