Program note: I'll be on NPR at 11 AM (Eastern) today, talking about Elliot Rodger and the new misogyny [UPDATE: Archived audio is up!]

Grumpcatsagirl,

I didn’t click the link. I assume it’s some crappy stunt for attention or an attempt to collect doxxing info. Nothing they do is anything but awful.

Voice.

I’d love to listen to the show once it’s archived!

Re: petition – there really is no limit to the delusions of these guys.

Aw, man just missed the NPR segment!

So, Dean Esmay wants the MRM declared a terrorist group for attention?

Wut?

Amazing. MRA’s will do anything for attention except help a man.

Yup. Notice that in all the post and comments about how it will benefit the MRM to be labeled a terrorist group, the focus is on how much attention they’ll get from the exposure, and not a single person mentions how many men that exposure might help. IMO that tells you all you need to know about the MRM.

The fact that Paladin apparently thinks Esmay is on to something and that getting all these signatures is a goal worth working toward is just lulz. Someone sure has his finger on the pulse of the American people, lol.

Apparently the MRM is trying to solve its current PR problems by making them worse. Logic FTW.

They honestly believe that their PR problems are a result of misunderstanding or feminist interference, rather than the abhorrence and extremity of their views.

I will listen once it’s archived.

And these guys are really just children, aren’t they? This whole ‘Any attention is good’ mentality is something I’m used to dealing with in small children, and by that I mean 10 at the most.

And if the government paid them any serious attention, they’d become the office joke in a manner of days. Which I suppose Esmay would think is a good thing. God, he was the boy who flicked boogers at the other kids in first grade, wasn’t he.

Wonderful! Looking forward to listening to the link when you put it up.

Simplest explanation: They’re really stupid and haven’t thought past “Dean Esmay said it would be good if people signed it.”

MRA logic. Why am I not surprised?

To give them some credit, it is actually one of the least dumb things they’ve ever said or done, even though it’s still ridiculous even for a 5-year old.

David you did awesome. Great job.

Here is Esmay’s adroit and eloquent takedown of David and SPLC, I’m posting it so people don’t have bother with AVFM. I took one for the team.

Here’s the truth: Dave Futrelle has been, far and away, the very best recruiter and advertiser for the Men’s Rights Movement as a whole, and A Voice for Men in particular, who has ever lived. His feminist backers are, we think, starting to figure this out, and likely his source of funding is diminishing as he gets ever more desperate to remain relevant, and his Mainstream Media buddies who used to rely on him as a source increasingly figure out that he is not reliable and that using him as a source puts egg on their faces. In the meantime, Arthur Goldwag and the Southern Poverty Law Center probably come in at #2 behind Futrelle as being the biggest recruiters and promoters of the Men’s Human Rights Movement in history; just by encouraging totally irrational fear and hatred of us, they have made countless people aware of us, and decent, thoughtful people who might otherwise never have found us came to look, saw what we actually stood for, and stayed.

Arthur Goldwag and David Futrelle are the Bull Connors of the 21st Century and, as such, are the best friends the Men’s Human Rights Movement has ever had. If they did not already exist, we would have to make them up.

I first thought he was joking about David being “far and away” their “very best recruiter and advertiser”. However his ramblings about how Feminist, Inc is pulling his funding and his mainstream media “buddies” have dropped him (apparently NPR didn’t get the memo), means Esmay likely serious about this. I’d like to point out that if that’s true, Deano is basically saying every single member of the MRM completely sucks at getting their message out, including everyone at AVFM.

While this as a whole is only worth a chuckle or two, the comparison to “Bull Connors” is both completely nonsensical and wildly offensive.

1) Bull Connors was city official who oversaw the legal enforcement of racial apartheid in Birmingham Alabama at the height of the Civil Rights movement. David runs a blog.

2) Comparing his and his crank brethren’s internet antics to the Black Civil Rights Movement sails beyond hubris into pure fantasyland.

3) To compare a storied civil rights group founded by a major activist who, among other things, helped wipe out the last remaining major Southern KKK organizations to fucking Bull Connors is beyond the pale. I’d say Esmay should be ashamed of himself, but he’s clearly incapable of experiencing shame at this point.