Just wanted to let you all know that I will be on NPR today, as part of a special segment on Misogyny And Murder: Unpacking A Killing In California on the show On Point With Tom Ashbrook. For more details and a link to listen to the show online, see here.
I will probably be on in the middle of the show, from about 11:20-11:40.
I’ll put up a link to the archived show when it’s over.
UPDATE: The archived audio is now up, at the same link. And yeah, I was on in the middle. But you should listen to the whole show; Soraya Chemaly in particular is great.
Amazing. MRA’s will do anything for attention except help a man.
Grumpcatsagirl,
I didn’t click the link. I assume it’s some crappy stunt for attention or an attempt to collect doxxing info. Nothing they do is anything but awful.
The thing on Reddit is quoting an article Dean Esmay posted on a Voce for Men.
Voice.
I just started reading your blog becasue of the whole Elliot Rodgers mess, and I must say this place is awesome. After discovering the festering carbuncle that is the manosphere it made me realize how fucked up the mentaity of AWM really is. One of the reason’s why I take martial arts. This whole thing inspired me to take get a concealed weapons permit this summer. No means No punk!!
I’d love to listen to the show once it’s archived!
Re: petition – there really is no limit to the delusions of these guys.
Apparently the MRM is trying to solve its current PR problems by making them worse. Logic FTW.
Aw, man just missed the NPR segment!
So, Dean Esmay wants the MRM declared a terrorist group for attention?
Wut?
Reading the childlike reasoning for the poorly written petition, which shows a near complete lack of understanding of how the government or adult world works, kind of cheered me up. The fact that Esmay shilled it on AVFM is flat out hilarious. Way to step up to the Roger tragedy, those dolts really have a human right movement par excellence.
Congrats on the NPR interview, I look forward to listening to it. WHTM’s name change was well timed in retrospect.
Yup. Notice that in all the post and comments about how it will benefit the MRM to be labeled a terrorist group, the focus is on how much attention they’ll get from the exposure, and not a single person mentions how many men that exposure might help. IMO that tells you all you need to know about the MRM.
The fact that Paladin apparently thinks Esmay is on to something and that getting all these signatures is a goal worth working toward is just lulz. Someone sure has his finger on the pulse of the American people, lol.
They honestly believe that their PR problems are a result of misunderstanding or feminist interference, rather than the abhorrence and extremity of their views.
I love that Dean Esmay had to specifically tell these guys that, no matter how many signatures it gets, an online petition never becomes law.
I will listen once it’s archived.
And these guys are really just children, aren’t they? This whole ‘Any attention is good’ mentality is something I’m used to dealing with in small children, and by that I mean 10 at the most.
And if the government paid them any serious attention, they’d become the office joke in a manner of days. Which I suppose Esmay would think is a good thing. God, he was the boy who flicked boogers at the other kids in first grade, wasn’t he.
Possibilities:
-They want the martyr complex of appearing “persecuted” by the evil feminist state.
-They want to falsely exonerate themselves (i.e. the government didn’t find us guilty, so we must be innocent)
Wonderful! Looking forward to listening to the link when you put it up.
I still don’t get it. If you’re trying to claim persecution, why come here announcing you’re an MRA and pushing a petition against your own movement? That seems like a pretty easy digital trail to follow.
Simplest explanation: They’re really stupid and haven’t thought past “Dean Esmay said it would be good if people signed it.”
Wow, was Esmay actually in a clown suit with full make-up when he wrote that post?
The archived audio is up now, at the same link:
http://onpoint.wbur.org/2014/05/28/misogyny-isla-vista-murder-shooting
On the petition thing, I think someone else — possibly even a misguided feminist — started it, and then the AVFMers decided to latch onto it for publicity. If you follow the link on reddit to Esmay’s post on AVFM you also will get to see him post some ridiculous, wrong, pulled from his ass conspiracy theory nonsense about little old me!
BTW, IDK if this has been mentioned yet, but David’s segment starts around 17:50.
MRA logic. Why am I not surprised?
To give them some credit, it is actually one of the least dumb things they’ve ever said or done, even though it’s still ridiculous even for a 5-year old.
David,
You’re at the heart of their conspiracy theories now?
Congratulations, you ebil feminist mastermind you.
Soon.
Soooooooooooon. *rubs palms menacingly*
David you did awesome. Great job.
David, that was an excellent segment of yours. You articulated your views very well – to the extent that an MRA would have to omit parts of your talk in order to portray them in a bad light. I also liked the part when that one Oklahoman caller emphasized that men are in a unique position to stop perpetuating misogyny, abetting fellow misogynists, etc.
Also, no anti-feminist/womanist callers! Yay!
Here is Esmay’s adroit and eloquent takedown of David and SPLC, I’m posting it so people don’t have bother with AVFM. I took one for the team.
I first thought he was joking about David being “far and away” their “very best recruiter and advertiser”. However his ramblings about how Feminist, Inc is pulling his funding and his mainstream media “buddies” have dropped him (apparently NPR didn’t get the memo), means Esmay likely serious about this. I’d like to point out that if that’s true, Deano is basically saying every single member of the MRM completely sucks at getting their message out, including everyone at AVFM.
While this as a whole is only worth a chuckle or two, the comparison to “Bull Connors” is both completely nonsensical and wildly offensive.
1) Bull Connors was city official who oversaw the legal enforcement of racial apartheid in Birmingham Alabama at the height of the Civil Rights movement. David runs a blog.
2) Comparing his and his crank brethren’s internet antics to the Black Civil Rights Movement sails beyond hubris into pure fantasyland.
3) To compare a storied civil rights group founded by a major activist who, among other things, helped wipe out the last remaining major Southern KKK organizations to fucking Bull Connors is beyond the pale. I’d say Esmay should be ashamed of himself, but he’s clearly incapable of experiencing shame at this point.
Note: I’m sorry about the grammatical hick-ups in my previous post.