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Men's Rights Activists respond to the Elliot Rodger murders with a hearty "Nothing to see here! Move along!"

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If anyone was hoping – against their better judgement – that Men’s Rights activists would be inspired by the tragedy in Isla Vista to reconsider any of their beliefs, or even to reflect for a moment on the many striking similarities between passages in Elliot Rodger’s book-length manifesto and comments posted every day by MRAs and others in the manosphere, well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you should not keep that hope alive.

It’s not that they’re not talking about the tragedy. A look through the top 100 posts in the Men’s Rights subreddit, the largest Men’s Rights forum online, reveals that roughly a third of them, including the top stickied post, relate in some way to Elliot Rodger’s rampage and the discussions that have come up online and in the media in its aftermath.

But the message of virtually all of these posts is: “Nothing to see here! Move along!” There are numerous posts expressing outrage that anyone would see any connection between Rodger’s toxic misogyny to the Men’s Rights movement; there are others mocking and attacking the #YesAllWomen hashtag; there’s even one suggesting that Rodger, who wrote about how he longed to watch all the women of the world starve to death in concentration camps, wasn’t actually a misogynist at all.

Take a look. One post, with more than 500 upvotes, complains:

Feminists highjack what should be a Mental Health issue.
Another post makes a strikingly similar complaint:

Feminists Hijack A Mass Murder To Boost Self-Esteem
One angry MRA asks:

Why am I being compared to a mentally ill, narcissistic, racist, misogynist, sociopathic serial killer?
Another wonders:

So at this point would it be worth it to look into a Defamation suit against those trying to link MRA's with the recent tragedy?

Sorry to break it to you, fella, but that’s not how defamation suits work. If it were, all of us who call ourselves feminists would be collecting millions of dollars from the Men’s Rights subreddit for all the patently untrue things you guys say about us every day of every week.

Still others make sure that everyone knows that Rodger hated men too – not that this has actually gone unnoticed in the media or in discussions of the tragedy.

Proof that Elliot Rodger Hates Men
Finally! The MSM acknowledges that Elliot Roger hated *MEN*

And then there’s this fellow, who seems to think that Rodger only hated men, and that his big problem with women was that he loved them too much:

Elliot Rodgers the Misandrist. (self.MensRights) submitted 13 hours ago by TheWhimsicalFox In listening to Elliot's videos, and reading some of his manifesto, I almost feel as if this guy really just hated men. It seems as if he put women on a pedestal and held such an adoration for them that he could not understand how the "beasts" (among other terms)/men got to date them. This is a totally new idea for me, I haven't really thought it through for longer than a minute or two. So that's why I'm taking it here. What do you guys think?
There are, it’s true, two posts that raise the issue of what might be done to prevent tragedies like this from happening in the future. One of them takes on the issue of “virgin shaming.” (Sure, I’m against that, and against slut shaming too. Odd that roughly 100% of the virgin shaming I’ve ever heard in my life has come from MRAs and other non-fans of this blog, even though — sorry to break it to you fellows — I’ve not been a virgin since the early Reagan administration.)

Meanwhile, the other “positive” suggestion  — the stickied top post, submitted by one of the forum’s moderators — is pretty transparently intended as a PR move – and an excuse to bash feminists.

Time to get positive. What would help alienated men? (self.MensRights) submitted 20 hours ago * by nicemod - stickied post The recent tragedy in California has focused attention on troubled young men. Attempts by feminists to associate our movement with violence have met with little success, but have drawn many curious people to see what we're about. We can take advantage of this by proposing positive, male-friendly solutions to such problems. Proposals by feminists, based on the false assumption that maleness is inherently bad, will not work. What will? How could society effectively address male problems such as Loneliness Mental illness Alienation from society Virgin shaming Creep shaming Depression Demonisation What other issues need to be looked at? Please discuss.
Yep, “creep shaming.” That’s the problem! Way to cut through all the bullshit and get to the heart of the matter! The problem isn’t that some men — well, a lot of men — think and act in predatory and entitled ways towards women. The problem is that sometimes when they do, women call them “creeps.”

The problem isn’t that the world’s creepiest and most entitled man just killed 6 innocent people, the problem is “creep shaming.”

After killing his roommates and a friend of theirs, Rodger attempted to get inside a sorority so he could massacre the women inside it. But he couldn’t get anyone to let him in. Probably because, well, whoever was nearest the door thought he looked a  bit, well, creepy.

“Creep-shaming” isn’t some insidious form of discrimination against awkward men. It’s a defense mechanism that women develop to protect them against predatory men. And in the case of the Isla Vista murders, I’m guessing that the willingness of women to go with their gut sense that Rodger was a creep literally saved lives.

But the mods of the Men’s Rights subreddit would rather moan about “creep shaming.” They would prefer that women lower their defenses against men like Elliot Rodger — because it hurts their feelings to sometimes get called a “creep.”

Guys, this is why people think Elliot Rodger was an MRA.

EDIT: I added more to the conclusion because I had more to say about creep shaming.

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sparky
sparky
6 years ago

Davis, why do you think it’s appropriate to call Shiraz a gendered slur? And cloudiah a horrible disease that kills millions of people worldwide?

Do you not have any actual arguments or proof on anything your saying, and that’s why you’re reverting to flat out personal insults?

Davis
Davis
6 years ago

@treehugger

I will just come back.

You clowns have no idea who I am. I have never posted under any of those names.

moldybrehd
6 years ago

Anakin insisted on giving the ring to Padme. Should I be worried?

What could possibly go wrong?

J.J
J.J
6 years ago

Maybe I will put chia in smoothies! Mmm, strawberry peach. WIth Greek yogurt. I want to try it. I need more protein. I will drive everyone insane with the Chia Pet jingle, but whatever.

You ate a bowl of jelly-like seeds? Huh. Maybe it could be spread in a sandwich?

Shiraz
Shiraz
6 years ago

Yeah, it’s funny. You posted that link, smugly, thinking that people, everyday people, ask for restraining orders for shits and giggles.
I gotta ask — how many people placed a restaining order on you? You can’t even stay out of this site, no matter how many times people asked you to leave. Boundary issues are obviously a big problem with you. But OK, it’s cool. I get you now. You’re used to forcing yourself on people. You keep going on how you shouldn’t be forced to interact with certain people — but that’s just a coping mechanism. You’re are what you hate the most.

House Mouse Queen
6 years ago
Reply to  Davis

self acceptance, indifference,

MGTOW silly man

contrapangloss
6 years ago

It must be the captain. The fish was already rescued.

Shoot. At least time travel means I won’t be too late!

cloudiah
6 years ago

@Davis, If you keep coming back, you are acknowledging that we control your behavior. We’ve won.

katz
6 years ago

You clowns have no idea who I am. I have never posted under any of those names.

…When in fact you socked under a different name before?

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

Well, we’ve had b*tch and wh*re.

Hello, Erin!

Still don’t have any actual evidence or arguments, huh?

bbeaty
bbeaty
6 years ago

Oh noes! He’s a man of mystery. We will never guess his true identity.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

It doesn’t matter whether or not you are a sock Davis. You used slurs. Look in the comments policy. That’s a bannable offense. If you come back you will be banned as soon as we get a whiff of sock. The Terminator you ain’t. No one is scared of you.

I’m still not sure why you want to come back. Don’t you want to avoid people who dislike you?

katz
6 years ago

Is he Mistertique? He does refuse to have sex with women…

Davis
Davis
6 years ago

I always come back.

It is fun coming to a site full of folks with an agenda.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Aww. Look at how proud Davis is to have discovered a new insult. AIDS LOL! So sophisticated. So mysterious. This gent must be a possessor of a house that is directly on the beach.

J.J
J.J
6 years ago

Oh, damn, you guys, he’s going to come back and make shit up and call us names and not pull his head out of his ass. We’re so scared.

You said you’re 38? Time to grow up fast. And of course Shiraz insulted you, you’re ridiculous. Also, I think several other people have insulted you too, you’re a little fixated. Which is a little creepy.

cloudiah
6 years ago

I do agree he should be banned, but I think at this point it’s for his own good.

Clearly, we are sending him into a frothing rage. Poor little sock.

Davis
Davis
6 years ago

Katz, I have been banned eight times. I always come back.

cloudiah
6 years ago

Katz, I have been banned eight times. I always come back.

In other words, while we can live without you, you can’t live without us.

That makes you seem fairly pathetic.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

And socking is a bannable offense, also!

Davis, you really are a creepy little ignoramus, aren’t you?

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

Davis is like every 4chan troll rolled into one.

katz
6 years ago

Katz, I have been banned eight times. I always come back.

Did you meticulously clear your browser history every time?

(Has someone emailed the Dark Lord, now that he’s admitted to socking?)

cloudiah
6 years ago

Somebody struck a nerve, didn’t they?

Clearly. A MGHOW is letting his behavior & actions be entirely controlled by a bunch of mostly female Mammotheers.

We are supremely powerful.

Shiraz
Shiraz
6 years ago

I’m perfectly healthy, Davis. But thank you so much for showing your ass.

You’re a stalker. We all know it. And I’m sure you’ve been called a stalker in real life too. That link you posted, you just didn’t happen to memorize it randomly, did you? No. Someome accussed you of stalking in real life and you went online and grabbed anything that might help your case, right?

Yeah.

Goodnight regulars. As usual, it’s been a pleasure posting with all of you.

contrapangloss
6 years ago

Good news! Nemo is saved. I dropped off the kraken in a lake near a run down castle, in Scotland. There was another one there, so the fact that it’s freshwater shouldn’t matter.

Bad news: I’m being transferred to the BPRD. Apparently Padme reveAled Palpatine as the Sith Lord, executed a coop d’état, and declared herself empress.

Our Head Analyst reamed us out. Apparently, letting rings of unimaginable power into the hands of politicians is a bad move.

Who knew?

Tessa
Tessa
6 years ago

OK Davis, I’ve been reading your comments about your solution. Now, when you say you cut women out of your life because they don’t want you or want to be around you, are you speaking in a purely sexualrelationship sense? Have you ever tried to get to know or befriend women beyond their potential for sexytimes? Do you see any value to the company of women beyond that? Do you have guy friends?

J.J
J.J
6 years ago

So, Davis, you’ve admitted you’re just a sock. If you’re going your own way, go. Otherwise you’re also admitting that you have nothing better to do than insult the women (and the people who support them) that you insist you don’t care about?

bbeaty
bbeaty
6 years ago

“I can post anywhere I want on the net.”

So powerful. So masterful. I wish *I* could post anywhere I wanted on the “net.”

Oh, wait …

dustedeste
dustedeste
6 years ago

Pfft, I know 4chan trolls who are a lot more polite that Davis.

katz
6 years ago

Contrapangloss, you seem busy. Would a war capybara be of any assistance?

Davis
Davis
6 years ago

Shiraz, you’re mad because you’re too scared to post on MRM sites.

contrapangloss
6 years ago

Funny, this story still makes more sense than Davis.

The BPRD is pretty chill. Well, that one person has a bit if a temper.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

Davis: Is that the best you can do?

Still don’t have any actual evidence. Still letting a bunch of people you don’t like control your actions.

Pathetic. Stupid little creeper.

J.J
J.J
6 years ago

Also, you swore so much in that last post the sentence stopped being coherent. You’re really 14 or something, aren’t you.

cloudiah
6 years ago

I always come back.

And you’ll be destroyed in the comments every single time. We control you. This is why you can’t stay away.

This amuses me.

You’re just like every other MGHOW.

katz
6 years ago

Tessa: I think you are new? Have a welcome package.

contrapangloss
6 years ago

Yes, Katz, a war capybara would be most helpful.

Could you send it care of Abe Sapien? I’d say send it to Big Red, but the cats might object.

weirwoodtreehugger
6 years ago

What kind of sad pathetic loser returns to a blog full of people they hate so often?

I can’t believe the ladeez are spurning this fine neckbeard.

J.J
J.J
6 years ago

And Shiraz went to bed. JSYK.

This is really friggin’ funny. It’s like teasing a dog with a treat, except I like dogs and so I would feel bad about baiting one.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

I always think of the Iron Lady in situations like this. Margaret Thatcher was wrong about most everything, but right about this.

You know we’ve won, right Davis? You just proved we won.

BTW, I e-mailed the Dark Lord.

Davis
Davis
6 years ago

@Tessa

Thank you for being respectful.

I have plenty of guy friends.

I stopped wanting to be friends with women since 2007, because they pretend to like me in order to get money out of me. If a woman was able to be upfront and treat me like a real friend, then I would not have issues with them.

katz
6 years ago

Shiraz, you’re mad because you’re too scared to post on MRM sites.

Would she then be leaving MRAs alone?

cloudiah
6 years ago

I particularly like how his admission that he can’t stay away after being banned is somehow a reflection on us. LOL.

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
6 years ago

You ate a bowl of jelly-like seeds? Huh. Maybe it could be spread in a sandwich?

Yes.

http://www.twopeasandtheirpod.com/blackberry-chia-seed-jam/

Contrapangloss, your adventures are riveting.

dustedeste
dustedeste
6 years ago

Signs of Erin:

* lying about identity
* “b*tches” and “wh*res”
* calling people “son”
* “UR ALL AFRAID”
* hates on MRAs/PUAs, is the same as them
* poor spelling & grammar
* on at apprx the same time of day
* low melting point
* “U DON’T CONTROL MEEEE I AM SUPREEEEME”
* standing in the punch bowl, yelling

Yeah, my bet’s still on it’s Erin.

sparky
sparky
6 years ago

Dance, troll, dance.

You gonna even pretend to try anymore, or just try to insult and threaten people.

Creepy, pathetic, hate-filled ignoramus.

katz
6 years ago

I have plenty of guy friends.

A line often uttered by people who actually have friends, I’m sure.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
6 years ago

I’m so confused as to why a fine young man like Davis can’t get a date. I mean, he’s so charming! And eloquent! Combine the rhetorical skills of Martin Luther King with the spiritual wisdom of the Dalai Lama and you’d still struggle to come up with a comment as romantic and enticing as “Hey AIDS bitch. I can post anywhere I want on the net”.

dustedeste
dustedeste
6 years ago

Wait, if Davis stopped being friends with women in 2007, and stopped being friends with women when he was 16, and he’s now, what, 38, does that mean he is a time traveler?

katz
6 years ago

Unimaginative: I’ll have to try chia seed jam. I’ve always added them to fruit juice and drinks.

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