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Heartiste takes on an "egotistic, attention starved, solipsistic, passive aggressive, perpetually aggrieved … manlet" who somehow isn't him.

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Well, the great minds of the manosphere have been going into overdrive trying to explain away the fact that a man who had a lot in common with them, ideology-wise, murdered six innocent people on Friday as part of a “Day of Retribution” that he had hoped would involve a lot more dead bodies, particularly of the blonde, female variety.

We had noted cultural commenter JudgyBitch (Janet Bloomfield) looking at Elliot Rodger, a man who wrote a 140-page manifesto detailing his hatred of women and girls, a manifesto that contained the following paragraph:

Women are like a plague. They don’t deserve to have any rights. Their wickedness must be contained in order prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy. Women are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such.

.. and which ended with a fantasy of putting all the women in the world in concentration camps and starving them to death, while Rodger took a position in a giant tower built just for him “where I can oversee the entire concentration camp and gleefully watch them all die,” and suggesting that Rodger wasn’t actually a misogynist, because he wasn’t able to get into the sorority and murder all the “blonde sluts” he had hoped to murder and so ended up killing more men than women.

We had pickup guru and sometime date rapist Roosh Val looking at that same fellow, a young man who decided that all the women in the world deserved to die because no hot blondes came up and threw themselves at him while he wandered around campus talking to no one, and deciding that “game” would have saved his life and the life of his victims.

And we had Dr. Helen trying her best to insinuate that feminists were to blame for Rodger’s murders in California because a small group of feminists blocked a lecture by a Men’s Rights celebrity in Toronto and therefore prevented Rodger from getting the proper psychiatric care he needed, even though he had been seeing psychiatrists for years as well as a string of counselors in his final days.

But we still haven’t’ heard from the master of PUA purple prose, the Heartiste formerly known as Roissy. What the heck does he think about poor dead murderer Elliot Rodger?

Well, he has answered that question at last. According to Heartiste, the fallen Rodger was a repressed gay “social retard” who was also possibly a hetero incel beta male member of an omega male brothel. Plus some other stuff. I guess I should let Heartiste explain, because there’s no way to summarize his particular brand of fragrant prose poop.

First, teh gay:

Rodger pings some operational gaydars. There’s his plush gay face. There’s the “try-hard” nature of his manifesto, which reads less like a compendium of genuine pain than a B-movie script of what he’d think a guy with girl troubles would write. … And his narcissism; if you haven’t seen by now, Rodger had a stream of attention whoring pouty-lipped Facebook selfies that would make a dancing bar slut blush.

Setting aside the unproved gay hypothesis, Heartiste considers Rodger’s life as an incel – or “involuntary celibate.”

From what I can glean, Elliot Rodger failed with women because he was a social retard. That’s pretty much all there is to it. … He thought that “putting himself out there” with girls was sitting on a park bench like Aqualung. That making a serious move on a girl was quickly muttering “hi” as he stumbled past her, later delirious with rage that she didn’t reciprocate with an equally prompt blowjob. That bumping into an Asian dude talking to a cute chick, and glaring at them with his twisted angry face, was acting “cocky and arrogant”. That his effeminate passivity and lack of proactive engagement with women was evidence that they were “ignoring” him.

Actually, Heartiste sort of has a point here: Rodger seems to have literally never approached a single woman. His idea of courtship was to put on designer clothes and wander around outside, hoping that some lovely blonde gal would take a fancy to him and invite herself to be his girlfriend.

Heartiste, like Roosh, thinks that “game” could have saved Rodger, but only if he had been gotten to earlier. Alas, Heartiste notes, Rodger turned not to PUA but to the website PUAhate.

Which brings us to PUAHate … It’s not a forum for failed pickup artists as some male feminists licking the taint of their femcunt overwhores will want you to believe. It’s a hangout for socially awkward losers who desperately want to blame their failings with women on their sub-Pitt looks instead of on their awful social calibration and their inability to say two words to a girl without filling their Pokemon underoos.

Again, Heartiste is partly right. No, not that bit about the femcunt overwhores and the fellows in their underwears. That other stuff. PUAhate is indeed a cesspit. While there are some people on the site legitimately interested in exposing PUA fraud, they’re outnumbered by angry incels and misogynistic trolls.

No sense ignoring the race angle.

Oh dear. Given that Heartiste is basically a genteel Nazi and Rodger was half-white, half-Asian, this isn’t going to be pretty.

Mixed race people are more likely to have psychological disorders. And Asian men are especially susceptible to dating market lockouts. Throw in the cauldron a stew of vibrant proximate diversity and it’s a surprise suppressed racial/sexual rage doesn’t boil over more often.

Ok, that wasn’t quite as awful as I expected, though I’m pretty sure Heartiste’s reference to “vibrant proximate diversity” is basically just his way of suggesting that segregation is preferable to a society in which different ethnic groups actually come into contact with one another on a regular basis.

Heartiste decides to end by suggesting that the “effeminate” Rodger may be a sign of things to come:

The title of this post is a broad indictment of this infantile Millennial generation, which daily provides evidence that their ranks are filled with effeminate males who, like women, expect the world to cater their needs, no questions asked, no demands made. Elliot Rodger couldn’t stand how unfaaaair girls were to date uglier men than himself, how unfair life was that his car and clothes weren’t a magnet for hot white sorority chicks, how unfair the cosmic laws were to require of him a little bit of effort if he wanted to put an end to his virginity.

Egotistic, attention starved, solipsistic, passive aggressive, perpetually aggrieved, and unwilling to change when posing as a martyr feels so damn good… there’s your new American manlet, same as your new American woman.

Wait, run that first part by me again?

Egotistic, attention starved, solipsistic, passive aggressive, perpetually aggrieved, and unwilling to change when posing as a martyr feels so damn good

Heartiste has just described the typical manospehrian, to a t.

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fromafar2013
10 years ago

@ David

You feel entitled for women to coddle men. I’ve been attacked, sexually assaulted, and verbally bullied by men.

Yet I have managed to not write off the entire gender.

You have been bullied by women.

So you hate all women.

I wonder why that is?

Davis
Davis
10 years ago

@fromafar.

I said that Elliot had entitlement issues.

fromafar2013
10 years ago

Not David, lol, Davis. Stupid d and s are too close together 😛

Davis
Davis
10 years ago

@ Lea

Why do feel entitled for men to accept women.

I’m Black, and I do not feel entitled for the Klan to accept me.

Nitram
Nitram
10 years ago

Davis
“Based on your logic, you want socially awkward men to keep getting rejected by women. ”

I don’t give a crap if socially awkward men get rejected or accepted. It’s not my responsibility.

It. Is. Not. The. Responsibility. Of. Women. To. Make. Sure. Men. Are. Not. Rejected. I. Decide. Who. I. Sleep. With. This. Does. Not. Make. A. Man. A. Victim. Of. Me. If. I. Choose. Not. To. Sleep. With. Him.

Seriously, do you care if socially awkward women get rejected? Is it men’s duty to not reject them? I mean I already know you don’t give a crap about women, so I don’t get why this is a problem for you.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

I got Aspergers too. I do not get along with women. Therefore, I go to work, make my money, and do not give a damn about women. I make it a point not to donate any money to anything that supports women. When a store says that it is donating a percentage of the money I spend to a woman’s shelter. I do not shop there until the donations stop. I refuse to help women. I work in construction, so I do not have to work around women.

ASD doesn’t cause misogyny. My brother is autistic and he would be ashamed to be lumped in with you. He’s a good person. He isn’t misogynistic. He doesn’t hate any group. Don’t use Asperger’s as an excuse.

As everyone else said, women don’t like you because you’re an asshole. My brother is socially awkward and he’s gotten picked on for it before, especially as a child. However, most people (including women people) like him. Because he’s nice. Try being nice for a change and you might find that women respond to you better. Or don’t and go your own way far away from here.

Lotta
10 years ago

Dude, you really have to take the responsibility for yourself. You became an asshole because you decided to become an asshole, not because somebody (well, some woman) tied you to a chair and brainwashed you with some home made brain surgery.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Eliot,
Women were mean to you by not sucking your dick? Aww…pudding has dry balls. Let’s all weep for how awful that is.
j/k Shut up.
How many of the people you are barking insults at do you think have been raped or abused by men?
They have not used that as an excuse to hate, WhyTF do you think you get to hate women for not finding you attractive?

No one here says you have to like each and every woman. But declaring “I hate women” is just like declaring “I hate all *insert minority here*. It’s stupid and it makes you a bigoted piece of filth.

You became an asshole because you wanted an excuse to be an asshole. You can fix yourself or you can go your own way. You just can’t stay here, be an asshole and expect not to get chewed up and laughed at.

cloudiah
10 years ago

Why do feel entitled for men to accept women.

I feel entitled for men to accept my right to exist as an autonomous human being.

I didn’t realize that was so extreme.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Those were just the “socially awkward guys” on TV with female fans I thought up on the spot. There are more, I’m sure.

I had a thing for Xander from Buffy when I was a teenager.

Davis
Davis
10 years ago

When I was nice to women, I got taken advange of. When I got taken advantage, everyone told me it was my fault.

That is why I became what I am today. I would rather be an asshole, than a chump who always gets taken advantage of by women.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

Davis,
You just compared all men to a bigoted hate group of terrorists.

I shouldn’t have to point out how fucked up that is.

cloudiah
10 years ago

And oddly, I also think you’re entitled to have Klan members accept your right to exist as an autonomous human being.

And I personally think you’re entitled to exist as an autonomous human being, and are not required to associate with women in any way.

However, when you come here and make blanket statements about how all women are terrible, I believe it is my right as an autonomous human being to call you an asshole. An autonomous human being who is choosing to be an asshole. And kind of a hypocrite, since you’re interacting with women right here, which you say you don’t do.

weirwoodtreehugger
10 years ago

Davis,

We don’t actually care if you like any of us. We’re just wondering what you’re doing on a feminist blog with a majority female commenting population if you want nothing to do with us. You’re free to flounce anytime. If you don’t, you will continue to be mocked.

Lea
Lea
10 years ago

So, you think the KKK are only bigots because black folks took advantage of them?
Because to hear them tell it, the Klan is just defending itself and all white folks.
When they attempt to excuse their bigotry, they sound just like you do here.

Can you really not see how sad that is for you?

Davis
Davis
10 years ago

Lea, my point is that Elliot should have focused on his money and stopped worrying about women not liking him.

fromafar2013
10 years ago

False equivalency is false!

The Klan is a hate group.

Women and Men are not hate groups.

What a huge pile of wrong all in one sentence…

And you hate women because a few of them took advantage (how vague, btw) of you? And who is this amorphous ‘everyone’ you speak of? They seemed to be of no help to you, and yet you don’t seem to blame them for your bad experiences.

Davis
Davis
10 years ago

@treehugger

Why isn’t this site labeled as a hate site by the SPLC?

cloudiah
10 years ago

Why isn’t this site labeled as a hate site by the SPLC?

It probably has something to do with the fact that this isn’t a hate site.

cloudiah
10 years ago

I mean, I’m just guessing.

fromafar2013
10 years ago

@ cloudiah

And oddly, I also think you’re entitled to have Klan members accept your right to exist as an autonomous human being.

And I personally think you’re entitled to exist as an autonomous human being, and are not required to associate with women in any way.

Seconded!

@ Lea

When they attempt to excuse their bigotry, they sound just like you do here.

Also seconded!

dustedeste
dustedeste
10 years ago

Davis, your point is bullshit and unprovable.

Also, you are an entitled whinybaby asshole. Go. Away.

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

Davis:

You people feel entitled for men to like women.

No one is entitled to be liked.

No, what we want is for women to be treated like human beings and for men to stop killing and/or raping and/or assaulting us.

Why isn’t this site labeled as a hate site by the SPLC?

Because WHTM is not a hate site.

fromafar2013
10 years ago

LOL, the SPLC is listed in the right hand column under ‘Antidotes to Boobery’.

sparky
sparky
10 years ago

Ninja’d by cloudiah!

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