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Well, the great minds of the manosphere have been going into overdrive trying to explain away the fact that a man who had a lot in common with them, ideology-wise, murdered six innocent people on Friday as part of a “Day of Retribution” that he had hoped would involve a lot more dead bodies, particularly of the blonde, female variety.
We had noted cultural commenter JudgyBitch (Janet Bloomfield) looking at Elliot Rodger, a man who wrote a 140-page manifesto detailing his hatred of women and girls, a manifesto that contained the following paragraph:
Women are like a plague. They don’t deserve to have any rights. Their wickedness must be contained in order prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy. Women are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such.
.. and which ended with a fantasy of putting all the women in the world in concentration camps and starving them to death, while Rodger took a position in a giant tower built just for him “where I can oversee the entire concentration camp and gleefully watch them all die,” and suggesting that Rodger wasn’t actually a misogynist, because he wasn’t able to get into the sorority and murder all the “blonde sluts” he had hoped to murder and so ended up killing more men than women.
We had pickup guru and sometime date rapist Roosh Val looking at that same fellow, a young man who decided that all the women in the world deserved to die because no hot blondes came up and threw themselves at him while he wandered around campus talking to no one, and deciding that “game” would have saved his life and the life of his victims.
And we had Dr. Helen trying her best to insinuate that feminists were to blame for Rodger’s murders in California because a small group of feminists blocked a lecture by a Men’s Rights celebrity in Toronto and therefore prevented Rodger from getting the proper psychiatric care he needed, even though he had been seeing psychiatrists for years as well as a string of counselors in his final days.
But we still haven’t’ heard from the master of PUA purple prose, the Heartiste formerly known as Roissy. What the heck does he think about poor dead murderer Elliot Rodger?
Well, he has answered that question at last. According to Heartiste, the fallen Rodger was a repressed gay “social retard” who was also possibly a hetero incel beta male member of an omega male brothel. Plus some other stuff. I guess I should let Heartiste explain, because there’s no way to summarize his particular brand of fragrant prose poop.
First, teh gay:
Rodger pings some operational gaydars. There’s his plush gay face. There’s the “try-hard” nature of his manifesto, which reads less like a compendium of genuine pain than a B-movie script of what he’d think a guy with girl troubles would write. … And his narcissism; if you haven’t seen by now, Rodger had a stream of attention whoring pouty-lipped Facebook selfies that would make a dancing bar slut blush.
Setting aside the unproved gay hypothesis, Heartiste considers Rodger’s life as an incel – or “involuntary celibate.”
From what I can glean, Elliot Rodger failed with women because he was a social retard. That’s pretty much all there is to it. … He thought that “putting himself out there” with girls was sitting on a park bench like Aqualung. That making a serious move on a girl was quickly muttering “hi” as he stumbled past her, later delirious with rage that she didn’t reciprocate with an equally prompt blowjob. That bumping into an Asian dude talking to a cute chick, and glaring at them with his twisted angry face, was acting “cocky and arrogant”. That his effeminate passivity and lack of proactive engagement with women was evidence that they were “ignoring” him.
Actually, Heartiste sort of has a point here: Rodger seems to have literally never approached a single woman. His idea of courtship was to put on designer clothes and wander around outside, hoping that some lovely blonde gal would take a fancy to him and invite herself to be his girlfriend.
Heartiste, like Roosh, thinks that “game” could have saved Rodger, but only if he had been gotten to earlier. Alas, Heartiste notes, Rodger turned not to PUA but to the website PUAhate.
Which brings us to PUAHate … It’s not a forum for failed pickup artists as some male feminists licking the taint of their femcunt overwhores will want you to believe. It’s a hangout for socially awkward losers who desperately want to blame their failings with women on their sub-Pitt looks instead of on their awful social calibration and their inability to say two words to a girl without filling their Pokemon underoos.
Again, Heartiste is partly right. No, not that bit about the femcunt overwhores and the fellows in their underwears. That other stuff. PUAhate is indeed a cesspit. While there are some people on the site legitimately interested in exposing PUA fraud, they’re outnumbered by angry incels and misogynistic trolls.
No sense ignoring the race angle.
Oh dear. Given that Heartiste is basically a genteel Nazi and Rodger was half-white, half-Asian, this isn’t going to be pretty.
Mixed race people are more likely to have psychological disorders. And Asian men are especially susceptible to dating market lockouts. Throw in the cauldron a stew of vibrant proximate diversity and it’s a surprise suppressed racial/sexual rage doesn’t boil over more often.
Ok, that wasn’t quite as awful as I expected, though I’m pretty sure Heartiste’s reference to “vibrant proximate diversity” is basically just his way of suggesting that segregation is preferable to a society in which different ethnic groups actually come into contact with one another on a regular basis.
Heartiste decides to end by suggesting that the “effeminate” Rodger may be a sign of things to come:
The title of this post is a broad indictment of this infantile Millennial generation, which daily provides evidence that their ranks are filled with effeminate males who, like women, expect the world to cater their needs, no questions asked, no demands made. Elliot Rodger couldn’t stand how unfaaaair girls were to date uglier men than himself, how unfair life was that his car and clothes weren’t a magnet for hot white sorority chicks, how unfair the cosmic laws were to require of him a little bit of effort if he wanted to put an end to his virginity.
Egotistic, attention starved, solipsistic, passive aggressive, perpetually aggrieved, and unwilling to change when posing as a martyr feels so damn good… there’s your new American manlet, same as your new American woman.
Wait, run that first part by me again?
Egotistic, attention starved, solipsistic, passive aggressive, perpetually aggrieved, and unwilling to change when posing as a martyr feels so damn good
Heartiste has just described the typical manospehrian, to a t.
This. The “sexual marketplace” crap removes any idea of liking or affection or (gasp) love from the picture. I somehow doubt this unfeeling, physical-arousal-only notion has anything to do with the way most people treat sex and/or relationships. Even saying it’s dehumanising doesn’t cut it, because plenty of animals show more emotional involvement in mating than that. If anything I’d say it’s like the people pushing the idea think humans are some sort of sexbots.
(Mating in the long-term sense, I mean.)
Please tell me that Black Linen Sheets is a Poe. This week has made me despair for humanity enough already.
weirwoodtreehugger: This was my exact thought.
Also, screw that racist garbage about Asian men and mixed-race children. I just can’t even with that. I have two wonderful, well-adjusted, cute, smart, funny mixed race kids and that kind of racist BS just makes my blood boil.
These MRAs just take the fucking cake with their horribleness, don’t they? They can’t just only defend a misogynistic murderer, they have to be racist shitbags about it as well. It’s not surprising but AAAAaaaargh. OK, I’m just gonna stop now.
Seconded. (Which is why I’m fond of the “Old Economy Steven” advice animal.)
Few things can make this rant weirder for me, but something I am bizarrely stuck on is the face thing, probably because most of the gay dudes I know are from the punk scene and are a bit craggy/experienced looking (like, well, everyone who has taken an affectionate mosh to the face…).
I recently ran across a new response (paraphrased): “Yes, Elliot Rodger said that his motive was hatred of women, but why should we believe anything murdering scum like him has to say? He could very well have been lying about his motives”
(Blinks)
OK, that’s it, we’ve officially proved that there’s nothing a man can do, however obviously motivated my misogyny, that some people will recognize as misogyny.
He wrote an entire book-length dissertation about how women are evil and should be exterminated, and people still want to believe he was somehow not a misogynist? This is getting to Holocaust-denial levels of cognitive dissonance. 😛
Hey David, can you do a post about this? Scat Corney wrote it: http://www.donotlink.com/framed?38569
Is it just me or is Heartiste the most goddamn awful writer ever?
Ellie: Complaining about feminists using the incident to “spread their agenda”, linking to other MRAs to try and support their argument, and blaming it all solely on mental illness. I think we’ve hit the trifecta. :O
That was in reference to your link, by the way, not Heartiste, though I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s done it several times over by now.
There’s no such thing as a biologically pure race. The ideas of “pure” and “race” doesn’t even make sense. It’s like stacking imaginary ideas on top of each other and hoping they somehow become science.
Also, “plush gay face” is kinda adorable. Also, I’ve seen plush gay face, and this kid didn’t have it.
Because nothing connects with a college-aged audience like a song reference from almost half a century ago. (Wasn’t he the one that penned that wretched racist parody of “The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald”?)
Re: plush, I’m holding out for Tickle Me Gay Face.
I posted my own little #yesallwomen tale earlier today. It was a story about my friend’s nephews getting into a nearly physical fight, and whipping out their junk like light sabers and setting them on the table we were playing cards at, (in front of their mother and aunt) All because they assumed I’d want either of them.
This after I’d vehemently stated I’d never, ever, EVER, because friend’s adult kids and respect and stuff.
I was seriously asked in the comments what it was that I “had” that MADE them do this.
Because, obviously, it was me that had the problem.
We really need to start teaching boys and girls that girls are not prizes and they are not the pot of gold at the end of the “I have a good job, nice car, and ain’t a douchebag” rainbow.
My faith in humanity has been sorely tested these last couple of days.
Yep, that’s how you turn the ladies on. And also make your mom, who’s watching, so proud.
I dunno whether to scream in frustration or go all “get off my lawn, creepy kids”.
@bodycrimes – I know you where just trying to make a point, but sex workers aren’t “brainless whores” we are, at the end of the day, people. I know it is an aside, but it’s frustrating seeing so many in this thread (and previous ones) refer to sex workers as inhuman things that people just stick their dicks in. We ARE people. Let’s not continue to dehumanise sex workers. Please.
And yes, as other commentators have said, a sex worker wouldn’t of helped his sense of entitlement. Because how *dare* we commodify sex acts? Given what he has put out into the public, he wouldn’t have passed stage one of my screening process (aka: being a decent human being). Because sex workers don’t just fuck anyone. We also have standards. We are not “brainless whores”.
@velveteennrabid
Wait, your nephews just pulled out their penises and displayed them on the table where their MOTHER and you were playing cards? o_O O_o Just…what!? >_<
@scott1139
No. My friends, who are sisters, their sons/nephews did the whip it out thing. In front of my friends, who happened to be their mother and aunt.
I don’t care if you’re 40, if you whip it out at the dinner table in front of your mom she should still be able to send you to your room.
Not the first time I’ve seen the “Rodger was probably gay” argument raised, actually. The CTs have eagerly jumped on that bandwagon as well. They’ve pissed me off just as much as the MRA’s really.
…You know, the Alex Jones types and their knee-jerk “It was a staged hoax/false flag” responses. I know they pretty much come standard with every mass shooting, but knowing that doesn’t make it any less aggravating.
If only we lived in some Dickinson world where the chronically terrible get visited by three ghosts in the night.
In this case it would be the Ghost of Embarrassment You Should Feel.
I want something like the penalty box in hockey, but for social infractions rather than stick fouls. Then we can make people who whip their cocks out in front of their moms go sit in there for 5 minutes and feel shame.