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Well, the great minds of the manosphere have been going into overdrive trying to explain away the fact that a man who had a lot in common with them, ideology-wise, murdered six innocent people on Friday as part of a “Day of Retribution” that he had hoped would involve a lot more dead bodies, particularly of the blonde, female variety.
We had noted cultural commenter JudgyBitch (Janet Bloomfield) looking at Elliot Rodger, a man who wrote a 140-page manifesto detailing his hatred of women and girls, a manifesto that contained the following paragraph:
Women are like a plague. They don’t deserve to have any rights. Their wickedness must be contained in order prevent future generations from falling to degeneracy. Women are vicious, evil, barbaric animals, and they need to be treated as such.
.. and which ended with a fantasy of putting all the women in the world in concentration camps and starving them to death, while Rodger took a position in a giant tower built just for him “where I can oversee the entire concentration camp and gleefully watch them all die,” and suggesting that Rodger wasn’t actually a misogynist, because he wasn’t able to get into the sorority and murder all the “blonde sluts” he had hoped to murder and so ended up killing more men than women.
We had pickup guru and sometime date rapist Roosh Val looking at that same fellow, a young man who decided that all the women in the world deserved to die because no hot blondes came up and threw themselves at him while he wandered around campus talking to no one, and deciding that “game” would have saved his life and the life of his victims.
And we had Dr. Helen trying her best to insinuate that feminists were to blame for Rodger’s murders in California because a small group of feminists blocked a lecture by a Men’s Rights celebrity in Toronto and therefore prevented Rodger from getting the proper psychiatric care he needed, even though he had been seeing psychiatrists for years as well as a string of counselors in his final days.
But we still haven’t’ heard from the master of PUA purple prose, the Heartiste formerly known as Roissy. What the heck does he think about poor dead murderer Elliot Rodger?
Well, he has answered that question at last. According to Heartiste, the fallen Rodger was a repressed gay “social retard” who was also possibly a hetero incel beta male member of an omega male brothel. Plus some other stuff. I guess I should let Heartiste explain, because there’s no way to summarize his particular brand of fragrant prose poop.
First, teh gay:
Rodger pings some operational gaydars. There’s his plush gay face. There’s the “try-hard” nature of his manifesto, which reads less like a compendium of genuine pain than a B-movie script of what he’d think a guy with girl troubles would write. … And his narcissism; if you haven’t seen by now, Rodger had a stream of attention whoring pouty-lipped Facebook selfies that would make a dancing bar slut blush.
Setting aside the unproved gay hypothesis, Heartiste considers Rodger’s life as an incel – or “involuntary celibate.”
From what I can glean, Elliot Rodger failed with women because he was a social retard. That’s pretty much all there is to it. … He thought that “putting himself out there” with girls was sitting on a park bench like Aqualung. That making a serious move on a girl was quickly muttering “hi” as he stumbled past her, later delirious with rage that she didn’t reciprocate with an equally prompt blowjob. That bumping into an Asian dude talking to a cute chick, and glaring at them with his twisted angry face, was acting “cocky and arrogant”. That his effeminate passivity and lack of proactive engagement with women was evidence that they were “ignoring” him.
Actually, Heartiste sort of has a point here: Rodger seems to have literally never approached a single woman. His idea of courtship was to put on designer clothes and wander around outside, hoping that some lovely blonde gal would take a fancy to him and invite herself to be his girlfriend.
Heartiste, like Roosh, thinks that “game” could have saved Rodger, but only if he had been gotten to earlier. Alas, Heartiste notes, Rodger turned not to PUA but to the website PUAhate.
Which brings us to PUAHate … It’s not a forum for failed pickup artists as some male feminists licking the taint of their femcunt overwhores will want you to believe. It’s a hangout for socially awkward losers who desperately want to blame their failings with women on their sub-Pitt looks instead of on their awful social calibration and their inability to say two words to a girl without filling their Pokemon underoos.
Again, Heartiste is partly right. No, not that bit about the femcunt overwhores and the fellows in their underwears. That other stuff. PUAhate is indeed a cesspit. While there are some people on the site legitimately interested in exposing PUA fraud, they’re outnumbered by angry incels and misogynistic trolls.
No sense ignoring the race angle.
Oh dear. Given that Heartiste is basically a genteel Nazi and Rodger was half-white, half-Asian, this isn’t going to be pretty.
Mixed race people are more likely to have psychological disorders. And Asian men are especially susceptible to dating market lockouts. Throw in the cauldron a stew of vibrant proximate diversity and it’s a surprise suppressed racial/sexual rage doesn’t boil over more often.
Ok, that wasn’t quite as awful as I expected, though I’m pretty sure Heartiste’s reference to “vibrant proximate diversity” is basically just his way of suggesting that segregation is preferable to a society in which different ethnic groups actually come into contact with one another on a regular basis.
Heartiste decides to end by suggesting that the “effeminate” Rodger may be a sign of things to come:
The title of this post is a broad indictment of this infantile Millennial generation, which daily provides evidence that their ranks are filled with effeminate males who, like women, expect the world to cater their needs, no questions asked, no demands made. Elliot Rodger couldn’t stand how unfaaaair girls were to date uglier men than himself, how unfair life was that his car and clothes weren’t a magnet for hot white sorority chicks, how unfair the cosmic laws were to require of him a little bit of effort if he wanted to put an end to his virginity.
Egotistic, attention starved, solipsistic, passive aggressive, perpetually aggrieved, and unwilling to change when posing as a martyr feels so damn good… there’s your new American manlet, same as your new American woman.
Wait, run that first part by me again?
Egotistic, attention starved, solipsistic, passive aggressive, perpetually aggrieved, and unwilling to change when posing as a martyr feels so damn good
Heartiste has just described the typical manospehrian, to a t.
OK…your a sock and lying your ass of about your personal details. But hey, if you insist on staying here…
Your spouting the same old tired myths that women cry rape after they have bad sex or regrets. Jesus dude, do you know how often this happens in real life? And there are stats out there that report low conviction rates of rape and how often women (and men) don’t report rape — but the burden to prove otherwise — with actual citations, is on you.
Also, you’re like every other fundie, conservative I’ve ever heard going on and on about how the only “legitimate rape” is when a stranger yanks a woman into a bush. Jesus, you are a spokesman for the Republican party, aren’t you? You’re parroting everything they say. I bet you think when a woman is REALLY raped her body shuts down a pregnancy, don’t you?
More important and interesting than anything Davis will ever say:
If a cat’s food bowl is empty* when there’s just a little gap in the middle of the kibble, how empty is it when there’s only a dozen pieces left?
*according to cat logic, that is
Kittehserf, I’d go with too lazy, seeing as he still can’t type a paltry six extra letters to get your name correct.
Scrolling upthread is too much work.
Fuck off now, Davis.
David signal lit.
(It’s a kitty silhouette.)
With the intentional obtuseness and repeated refusal to take “go away” for an answer, maybe he is the troll I didn’t want to name for fear of summoning him.
Davis, have you ever been confused and hurt by the soft no before?
Dood doesn’t believe women, about anything. He’s just here to wank.
Dood, (he doesn’t get a real name if he can’t manage anyone else’s) your wank is pathetic. Just go back to your incel forums, which is where I’m guessing you’re from, and lie about how awesome you were here.
You don’t give a fuck about women, socially awkward people, autistic people or black people; we get it, now move along.
Did you even consider just not lending/giving people money anymore? Did you consider that most women don’t want your money?
When you have toxic ideas about how women are, you get both confirmation bias and self-fulfilling prophecies. When you assume every woman is a gold-digger out to use you, the only women who will want anything to do with you are gold-diggers who want to use you. If you knew how to science at all, this would be obvious to you.
Does this claim (taking his money/stuff to give to their boyfriends) remind anyone of other trolls we’ve had? I am sure we had one just recently who had this exact whine.
What is your solution to prevent these shootings from happening?
@ Davis
Really? REALLY?
You got conned by a few people who happened to be black women.
The Klan and racists everywhere and our deeply racist society wants to strip you of and deny you your basic human rights, actively keeps POC in poverty and over incarcerated, actively seeks to pass legislation that would make it harder if not impossible for you to vote, pays you less for the same work as a white man, actively writes you and your ancestors out of history, blames you for the effects of their discrimination against you… FUCK I could go on forever.
And yet to you, black women are worse than racists.
I’m done. I’m done with you.
Davis:
NOPE. That is a very common rape myth. But why don’t you link us to something that proves that women do this?
We already did. You obviously didn’t read them.
Aah. Of course not. And, of course, we can just dismiss any allegation of rape as “sex regret,” right? That doesn’t count, right?
Wow. So you’re saying that black women have engaged in a campaign of murder, violence and terror that is worse than the KKK? Really? Is that what your trying to say there?
Trigger warning
My granpap was taken to the last lynching in the county I grew up in. He was 5. His mama packed a picnic. It was like a church homecoming; you brought the whole family. It wasn’t considered shameful at all. It was considered a wholesome tradition until it was forced to stop. That’s the damage the KKK did. That’s what pervasive bigotry normalized in our society looks like. Fuck you.
@ treehugger.
A woman has not told me no since 2007.
Damn, I want something like the Giraffe Alert they have on Feministe now. Only a kitty silhouette, or maybe a mammoth in stomp-mode.
Hmm. We get a guy posing as a woman to appeal to, what he consideres to be, the fem hivemind the other day. When the chips were down, this troll tries, in the most insensitive way possible — after making a hairbrained reference to the KKK, claims to be African American.
Gosh, I wonder what it all means???
@Lea
Is it still ok to lynch Blacks?
Davis,
you know lynchings usually involved torture first, right? You know they mutilated those men, right?
sweetcheebusonapogostick, you are awful.
And with every word, sock digs his hole a little deeper.
Davis:
Wait, I thought you said you’d turned your back on women forever because you’re socially awkward and women won’t pay any attention to you? And now your claiming no woman can turn you down and you’ve been burned by black women? You wanna try to keep your story straight, troll?
But no, explain this:
Are you really, truly saying that black women are worse than the KKK?
Also, he avoided every challenge and question directed at him to stop and tell us he’s been getting women since 2007. Wow. And we take you very seriously, troll.
We’re telling you “no” now fuckwad. Go away.
“Is it still ok to lynch Blacks?”
Ask Trayvon Martin. Or Renisha McBride. Just to name the ones you would have to live under a rock to not know about.
Lynching still happens, it’s just trussed up with a pretty bow and called ‘stand your ground’.
What is the klan doing to Blacks today?
Black gang bangers are doing the work of the klan.
I’m back and forth whether this is a Rancid sock or an Erin sock.
On the one hand we have possible lying about his identity.
On the other we have obtuseness and refusal to read or comprehend the links he asked for.
Anyone want a vote?
@shiraz
I have not approached a woman since 2007 for her to tell me.
Keep up bitch.
At first I was leaning towards Rancid. Now that he’s spewing increasingly racist shit while pretending to be black, I’m thinking Erin.